You have to also include the guys who think that a one ton dually is a good ice truck it might be 4x4. But not good for snow and ice spent one day last year just pulling out three trucks at lac ste Anne cause one of these crappy four wheel drive dually managed the get the other three trucks stuck trying to help him . They were lucky one of the people was my mother in law then the a week later the dually struck again. At star lake . Could just be the poor icedriving skills of some dually driving people
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