I use sink tip and very heavy sparse flies and can’t get down fast enough in deep bull trout holes with fast runs. Mainly the holes that are fast and well over 10’ sometimes close to 20’. The current pushes it down too fast when casting upstream and it holds the fly up when casting downstream. I thought maybe the bib would dive it when casting down stream and stripping it back up into the current. Either way I made a fly and will give it a try. Was just curious if anyone has had success
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