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Ok so let's break it down
Toronto Police Service said that day at noon — in broad daylight — its officers carried out a search warrant on the property. It's unclear what information they had and how many officers were at the scene, but the service said it was looking for guns. Family said no warrant was left behind.
Quentin Dixon, Rodger's longtime friend, said officers bearing assault rifles had Jessie at gunpoint while she was unloading groceries from the vehicle.
Some officers were wearing plain clothes while others wore tactical gear, according to family, friends, neighbours and Michael Smitiuch, the family's lawyer, all of whom CBC spoke with this week.
They say Toronto police brought their own ambulance and paramedics with them when they first arrived, a move Toronto defence lawyer Kim Schofield, who has worked on numerous cases involving the SIU, said was "very unusual."
So I don't know much about police search warrants but the fact they brought an ambulance and paramedics with does seem hinky.
Friends and family also say Rodger was with an apparent customer in his workshop when police arrived. They separately shared the same details of what they say occurred.
"The group of police officers moved over to the shop door entrance and nothing was said ... within seconds, four gunshots rang out," Dixon said.
Fraser Pringle, Rodger's next door neighbour, said he heard two of those shots.
"I came out here and they were rolling him out on a gurney, threw him in an ambulance and took him," he said.
You'd think you'd hear police yell out commands, including to potentially drop whatever firearm is in his hands before firing 4 rounds.
"We're seeking answers and accountability ... the problem we have is we don't have an actual witness we've been able to speak to who saw all the events."
The family and Smitiuch have no copy of the search warrant police used and don't have enough information to get a copy. He added he has not heard from Toronto police or SIU.
Smitiuch said they haven't been able to track down the apparent customer who was with Rodger and the SIU couldn't confirm to CBC News if a second person was in the workshop.
"Rodger's phone is with the police now and no one else in the family spoke to this individual, there's no certainty as to exactly who this person was."
So the police never shared the search warrant at the time of use nor are they providing a copy of it now, that seems very strange, seems almost illegal to me.
Stephen Metelsky, a criminology professor at Mohawk College in Hamilton and a retired police sergeant, said he wonders why the search warrant was done at noon instead of at 3 a.m. or 5 a.m.
"The reason they do that ... the element of surprise, most people are in bed and it's for the safety of everybody involved ... and the second part is the preservation of evidence."
That is a great question, normally you hear about these raids being done at night when people are asleep but if the police were doing their job they should they known he was in his workshop with a customer with numerous firearms.
Also I'm very curious, why in the hell was it Toronto Police rather than OPP? Norfolk County is almost 2 hours away from Toronto, hell Toronto Police didn't even communicate with OPP regarding this.
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