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Old 01-15-2011, 09:13 AM
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Bigtoad, Did you actually watch this video and understand it? Because I did and the sign with "Must Release All Trout" really stood out to me at the 16:40 mark.
Well HunterDave, at least you took the time to watch it, which I appreciate. I believe the biologist was standing at one of the lakes with strictly catch and release regs. I also believe that the strictly C&R regs are for the lakes with Tiger trout which are as aggressive as hell and would quickly be fished out (not unlike our bull trout regs here). Most other lakes, I believe, are the keep 1 under 18".


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Originally Posted by I decided to visit the website at [url
http://www.flippr.ca/mainpage.htm[/url] and I learned allot about the program. First of all, you'll find this in the top right corner on the homepage: "Welcome to the FLIPPR Web - World Class Trout Fishery in Manitoba's Parkland". 'Nuff said. :rolleyes
I'm not sure what your problem is about that quote??? Phil Rowley, who has fished all over North America, said the Manitoba Parkland, in his opinion, was the best stillwater trout fishery in all of North America. I would think he knows what he's talking about. Maybe you know more, but I doubt it...

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Originally Posted by Then I clicked on "The Lakes" to check what the regs were for the lakes that they were fishing in: [url
http://www.flippr.ca/the_lakes/the_lakes.htm[/url]

Persse Lake

Persse Lake will be fully developed during 2010. Currently it has a road, parking lot, launch area and hydro right of way. An aerator building is on site and equipment ready for installation after ice out 2010. It will be stocked with rainbow and/or brown trout in 2010. It will have special trophy regulations, 1 fish allowed under 18 inches(45cm). All fish over 18 inches (45cm) must be released to maintain a stock of huge trout indefinitely.

Remember to pack your camera!

Twin Lakes

Regulations:
Artificial Lures only
Electric Motors only
All Trout Must be Released

I might not be the sharpest pencil in the box but it sounds to me like one lake is a no catch and the other promotes releasing larger spawning sized fish and keeping one smaller eating sized one. Jeez, what a novel concept! Now where have I heard that point before?
Again, the strictly C&R, I believe, is mostly on Tiger trout lakes, but so what if there are a few C&R lakes? Did you see the size of those tanks! By allowing one under 18, you can still harvest some fish, but you don't let the big ones "get away" so to speak. Seems like a good compromise to me: you still get to keep a good pan-sized fish but there are also lots of big fish to catch, kiss, and release.

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So this is what you envision happening with Upper and Lower Kannanaskis Lakes!!!! Put a zero fish limit on one lake and on the other lake, instead of releasing the +20" spawning sized trout like FLIPPR, make the regs read so that those are the only size that you can keep!
Nope, I think you've missed my point. I put the video up to show what stricter regs could achieve, not only in K lakes but in other lakes in Alberta as well.

I'm not naive enough to think that the K lakes would become strictly C&R. Ideally, I would prefer the suggested proposal was to release ALL fish under 18 in the K lakes like they are doing in many of the lakes run by FLIPPR. However, there are many people that feel the need to keep the lunkers when they catch them (Even though, in this digital age, you could easily take pics and measurements and still have the fish mounted if you want). Perhaps they are trying to compensate for something??? I don't get it? I strongly believe that we need to release ALL big fish back to spawn or to be caught again.

But I digress; even though the proposed reg changes that we are talking about here aren't what I would prefer for the K lakes (which would be keep 1 under 18" or 20") I do think the delayed harvest is a good idea for any lake and is a step in the right direction. It's better than what is currently there, by a landslide. That is why you'll find my signature on the petition.

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Like I said several times earlier, you guys down south can F'up your fishery all that you want but don't start bringing that sh*t north of Red Deer.
Hey, I'm North of Red Deer and I'll do whatever I can to bring as much of this sh*t up here as I can.

And what exactly is "that sh*t" anyway? You watched the video so I'm assuming you saw the size of the fish? I had friends go with Phil Rowley and the Red Deer Fly Tying club to the Manitoba Parkland this past fall and it was the best fishing they had ever experienced. They were catching 26" tiger trout on waterboatmen on the surface. They had double headers and caught fish until their arms were sore. Some of the lakes were harder to fish than others but they caught lots of fish and the average size was well over 18". How is that sh*t? Or do you mean HOLY SH*T, look at this monster!!! In that case, I totally agree with you.

HunterDave, you prefer catching 14" stockers over 26" monsters? Maybe you're just used to handling small things, but I don't understand your logic AT ALL! You want to keep all of the trout lakes in AB to be a limit of 5 and yet still think you'll find a fish over 20"? That's going really well so far.

I understand if you don't like the proposal because of the keeping of some spawning fish over 20", but it's definitely better than what is currently in place; isn't it? Better to do something constructive than bitch and complain about any recommended change and not get anywhere. At least that's my logic...

Cheers.

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