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Firewood: caragana harvesting?
So as you may know the Caraganas that are growing in and around the province are an invasive species to the country (originally from western Siberia), and there have been volunteer efforts to I eradicate this species through digging up the plants and cutting down older growth.
My question is if you can legally cut down caragana in regions that don't allow harvest of native species. In example woodland region. I haven't found much information, yet I haven't invested a ton of time on the subject. Anyone have insight on this? Has anyone here helped take down Caraganas?
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09-14-2015, 12:39 PM
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I'm not sure but you can come trim mine up of you like 
They are crazy growers. They're actually my neighbours hanging over the property line. Awesome privacy but man they need maintenance.
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09-14-2015, 03:32 PM
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Probably the ugliest bush I have ever seen...and brutal for taking over a space.
Kill em if ya got em.
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I like everything about them. 
Great windbreak, thorny barrier can be shaped into a hedge that has yellow flowers in the spring. Fast growing , hardy plant.
I event bought a weeping Carragana this summer. about a 4 foot standard with a weeper grafted on it. It will be hanging to the ground by next spring/summer.
Having said that I have more than I need if someone wants to dig them, now is the time. Easy to start from cuttings.
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09-14-2015, 03:47 PM
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I like everything about them.
Great windbreak, thorny barrier can be shaped into a hedge that has yellow flowers in the spring. Fast growing , hardy plant.
I event bought a weeping Carragana this summer. about a 4 foot standard with a weeper grafted on it. It will be hanging to the ground by next spring/summer.
Having said that I have more than I need if someone wants to dig them, now is the time. Easy to start from cuttings. |
X2 they're just about the only thing i can grow!
well when i don't hit them with the mower 
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09-14-2015, 03:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Redfrog
I like everything about them.
Great windbreak, thorny barrier can be shaped into a hedge that has yellow flowers in the spring. Fast growing , hardy plant.
I event bought a weeping Carragana this summer. about a 4 foot standard with a weeper grafted on it. It will be hanging to the ground by next spring/summer.
Having said that I have more than I need if someone wants to dig them, now is the time. Easy to start from cuttings. |
AND... They are awesome for attracting pollinating insects and bees.
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09-14-2015, 05:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Redfrog
I like everything about them.
Great windbreak, thorny barrier can be shaped into a hedge that has yellow flowers in the spring. Fast growing , hardy plant.
I event bought a weeping Carragana this summer. about a 4 foot standard with a weeper grafted on it. It will be hanging to the ground by next spring/summer.
Having said that I have more than I need if someone wants to dig them, now is the time. Easy to start from cuttings. |
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09-14-2015, 06:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Redfrog
I like everything about them.
Great windbreak, thorny barrier can be shaped into a hedge that has yellow flowers in the spring. Fast growing , hardy plant.
I event bought a weeping Carragana this summer. about a 4 foot standard with a weeper grafted on it. It will be hanging to the ground by next spring/summer.
Having said that I have more than I need if someone wants to dig them, now is the time. Easy to start from cuttings. |
X'4 they make a great shelter belt around my
acreage and great cover for many species !
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09-14-2015, 06:50 PM
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Caragana is a lot of work for firewood... And it has to be very dry, or it will soot the chimney closed... At least according to my grandpa...
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09-14-2015, 06:51 PM
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About the only shelter belt that can survive extreme drought conditions also.
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09-14-2015, 06:52 PM
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I planted a few hundred seedlings last year.
I hope to have an impenetrable wall of shrubbery in a few years.
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09-14-2015, 09:00 PM
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OT, but my aunt used to have a mini jungle of them around her farm yard... they were great for us kids to play in and hide from the grownups when required.
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09-14-2015, 09:13 PM
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Caragana terrible stuff for firewood. I know, I have cut down every sprig of the dang stuff I see. Small diameter softwood that burns very quickly. Cut some dead standing or leaning spruce, better fire.
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09-14-2015, 09:22 PM
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Has anyone tried turning any on a lathe? for calls etc.
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09-14-2015, 09:44 PM
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I'm encouraging Caragana to grow around my acreage. It is one of the favorite covers for Hungarian Partridge.
Seems like it would make kindling at best. Even that would require a lot of work.
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09-14-2015, 09:53 PM
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Has anyone tried turning any on a lathe? for calls etc.
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I made a few pens out of it... It's a very soft member of the rosewood family. It's in the same family as african blackwood, brazillian rosewood, cocobolo, tulipwood and kingwood. Some has similar colorings to brazilian rosewood. Stabilize it with thiner than water crazy glue.
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09-14-2015, 09:55 PM
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Knife handles
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Has anyone tried turning any on a lathe? for calls etc.
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I've used caragana for knife handles. In fact it is one of my favorite handle material. It needs to be stabilized prior to use.
Jim
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09-14-2015, 09:58 PM
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I'm encouraging Carragana to grow around my acreage. They are one of the favorite covers for Hungarian Partridge.
Seems like it would make kindling at best. Even that would require a lot of work.
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I did cut down a whack of it, but the huns & the pheasants really hang out in the fencelines where some tall grass, weeds, & rosebushes grow........& that stuff is low enough I can see other more interesting mammals w white rumps or floppy flaggy tails
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09-14-2015, 10:34 PM
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Quote:
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I've used caragana for knife handles. In fact it is one of my favorite handle material. It needs to be stabilized prior to use.
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Have you got any pics?
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Amosfella. how about you, any pics?
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09-14-2015, 11:10 PM
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I did cut down a whack of it, but the huns & the pheasants really hang out in the fencelines where some tall grass, weeds, & rosebushes grow........& that stuff is low enough I can see other more interesting mammals w white rumps or floppy flaggy tails |
I see white rumps in my garden around the kale patch!
I had a pair of Huns nesting in the caragana this year. It was quite a chore keeping the dogs out of there, since it surrounds "their" area.
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09-14-2015, 11:12 PM
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The blossom are delicious.
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09-14-2015, 11:19 PM
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The blossom are delicious.
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Also you can make a fun whistle from the pod. Ahh that takes me back to my childhood!
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09-14-2015, 11:25 PM
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Quote:
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Have you got any pics?
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Amosfella. how about you, any pics?
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I think I gave all those pens away to folk around... I do have a block somewhere that I did an experiment on to stabilize using antifreeze... if I find it, I'll take a pic...
If you know how to use a lathe, it lathes like a dream... Get it close to final dimensions and soak in crazy glue... Used that technique for spalted big leaf maple from the west coast... Spalted ash, and spalted maple... Worked well...
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09-15-2015, 08:44 AM
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Have you got any pics?
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Amosfella. how about you, any pics?
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Here is a picture of knife handle made from Caragana. It is the 2nd knife from the right.
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09-15-2015, 09:04 AM
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oh that is nice
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09-15-2015, 09:45 AM
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Probably the ugliest bush I have ever seen...and brutal for taking over a space.
Kill em if ya got em.
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Goats love them.  Pretty small stuff for firewood.
Grizz
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Caraganas will eventually squeeze out the native tree species so if you have them planted near naturally treed areas be prepared for them to take over. Aunt and Uncles farm used to be surrounded by nice aspens and willows. Now it's all carraganas, which don't grow as high or look as nice (IMO).
We had them on the farm and tried to get rid of every one we had. It wasn't easy to do!
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