Today was a fine day for gun owners - Senate

[huntinstuff]

Take the time to watch the Senate hearings today.

Parl Vu is the site.

Absolutely amazing testimony from the pro gun side.

Pathetic lies and rhetoric from the anti's.

Dr Langman slaughtered them. Absolutely slaughtered them with facts and common sense.

Vern White was stellar.

Murray Grimser was a champ as always.


The lib senators, with the exception of Baker, were misinformed babbling idiots.

I wish I could have been there in person.

I can't wait to go to the NFA Annual General Meeting in Ontario. I will be a guest speaker there. So many shooters and sportspeople to meet. It will be a blast

[slingshot]

here here

[Albertadiver]

[rwm1273]

Woo Hooo! Goodbye LGR!

[baz]

I applaud all of your efforts for our common cause.
Thank you

[creeky]

Originally Posted by baz

I applaud all of your efforts for our common cause.
Thank you

x2, great work Huntinstuff

[CaberTosser]

I'll have to catch that when I get home to a real computer. Thanks for keeping us all informed Randy!

[huntinstuff]

I think tomorrow is gonna be even better

Tony B is gonna rock them. Here is the line up


Bill C-19, An Act to amend the Criminal Code and the Firearms Act
Tony Bernardo, Executive Director (Canadian Shooting Sports Association)
Greg Farrant, Manager, Government Affairs and Policy (Ontario Federation of Anglers and Hunters)
Linda Thom (As an individual)

Linda is an Olympic gold medal shooter. Great lady!


Priscilla de Villiers (As an individual)

Priscilla's daughter was murdered by a recidivistic maggot, but she figures we need tough gun control. Basically she lumps us all into one group that, up until the day her daughter died, she couldnt have given a rats ass about

Benoît Laganière, Member (Groupe des étudiants et diplômés de Polytechnique pour le contrôle des armes (Polysesouvient))
Heidi Rathjen, Spokesperson (Groupe des étudiants et diplômés de

Heidi was an Ecole Polytech student who was present on the day of the shooting. Never saw anything, heard noises and it took two days for her to learn that two people she knew had been killed. She has been called a "survivor" of the shooting, but that is false. She is a big time anti gunner, who, like most other antis, couldnt have given a rats ass about guns until they were directly affected. Then of course, in true cowardly style, they go after gun owners instead of criminals.

She is gonna get chewed up and spit out tomorrow.

Polytechnique pour le contrôle des armes (Polysesouvient))
Steve Sullivan, Executive Director (Ottawa Victims Services)

[HyperMOA]

Will the final vote be done tomorrow then? If so, when will the legislation be changed? Any idea?

[Rocky7]

Here's the link:

http://senparlvu.parl.gc.ca/Guide.as...1&eventid=8120

If you spool it up and then open another browser window, you can do your thing while it loads. Dr. Langmann is in the last hour.

edit: Not working for me....? Never mind, finally it's loading..

[huntinstuff]

Originally Posted by HyperMOA

Will the final vote be done tomorrow then? If so, when will the legislation be changed? Any idea?

No

Committee
Third reading (pending no ammendments)
Royal assent
Effective date

I was quite optimistic before. Then I was told by an MP that it would be before spring....... Then I was told maybe by Easter

Nobody knows when it will be done with. They really dont. Nobody

[Albertadiver]

Getting it this far is truly an accomplishment Randy. Your efforts have had a direct effect on this.

I can't say thank you enough for bringing reason, logic, and passion to this effort that is going to benefit so many of us.

Looking forward to shaking your hand one day.

(and then weeping like a small child...)

[IR_mike]

Thank you!!!

Your efforts are much appreciated.

[32-40win]

Just watched Calgary Chief Hanson on there, was fairly impressed with his points and his demeanor. At face value of his representation it was not unreasonable.

[Alberta Bigbore]

your awesome Randy!

[TseJR]

Originally Posted by 32-40win

Just watched Calgary Chief Hanson on there, was fairly impressed with his points and his demeanor. At face value of his representation it was not unreasonable.

????

I take huge exception that he wants basically "warrantless seaches".

I am sorry, but the police are to assist society, not rule it.

JR

[depopulator]

Originally Posted by 32-40win

Just watched Calgary Chief Hanson on there, was fairly impressed with his points and his demeanor. At face value of his representation it was not unreasonable.

Originally Posted by TseJR

????

I take huge exception that he wants basically "warrantless seaches". I am sorry, but the police are to assist society, not rule it. JR

Also that Chief Hanson suggested that the local Police be directly involved in reviewing PAL applications. As was stated numerous times, there is already a gross misunderstanding and lack of education of the application and enforcement of the Firearms Act by city police and RCMP. There is no shortage of examples of Police being inept in they're interpretation of the Firearms Act (never mind in provinces like Quebec where police appear to be anti-gun), and proposing to give them the capability to review and decide who should be issued a PAL is even scarier than the registry.

[Jordan Smith]

Originally Posted by depopulator

proposing to give them the capability to review and decide who should be issued a PAL is even scarier than the registry.

No kidding.

[Rod1960]

Wasn't it Det. Grismer that said that? Either way, bad idea.

One things for sure, the Liberal Senators from Quebec and the one from BC sure do get my blood pressure up.

(If it wasn't for ecole polytecnique and Dawson College what would these moon bats have to use for an example???)

[heretohunt]

Is it too early to think of what to do with the surplus of funds once the registry is done? I vote for a split between law enforcement for childrens issues, a wildlife fund and cancer research. It is more likley that we will hear the term "missapropriation of funds" again though.

[twofifty]

Shredding & deleting the registry is shure to cost as much as an F35.

[32-40win]

Educate the cops with it. Make it mandatory they be educated about it.
Maybe there is a way to help them on the searches, maybe there isn't.
Recording the contents of incoming shipments and product to the point of sale is a good business practice in my mind. The reason for it being asked for makes sense.
Local review of a PAL app, is the CFO office not doing some of that already?
I had to go downtown for an interview when I applied for the original FAC years ago, with Calgary police, not RCMP.
Calling for validation of a PAL and getting a reference nbr back on it, is covering your own butt. As long as it is "here is the PAL nbr, Is it any good?"
and the response being "yes, it's good, here is the ref nbr" No need for other questions to be asked during the call.

[Rod1960]

From Twitter:

Vic Toews ‏ @ToewsVic

One step closer to ending #LGR. Senate Committee passes bill unamended. Freedom for law-abiding gun owners soon.

[drake]

great news!

[ShawnM]

Originally Posted by Rod1960

From Twitter:

I can't find any corroborating stories on the net.

[Rod1960]

Originally Posted by ShawnM

I can't find any corroborating stories on the net.

Neither can I???? Last story on Google search is 2 days old. Possible Vic has an inside track?

Tis true:

The Senate Standing Committee on Legal and Constitutional Affairs has voted to report Bill C-19 unamended to the chamber. Bill C-19 removes the requirement to register non-restricted firearms, so-called “long guns”, and will require the destruction of all existing long gun registration information.

The committee voted along party lines, with seven Conservatives voting to pass the legislation, and five Liberals voting against it.

Various amendments were proposed by Liberal deputy chair Joan Fraser, including a requirement for businesses to keep records of transfers, and for individuals to be required to check purchaser’s licences with the Canadian Firearms Centre.

The committee heard from witnesses over four days that provincial Chief Firearms Officers in many provinces already require business transfer records be kept, and that it is already a criminal offence to sell or transfer a firearm to an unlicenced person.

Bill C-19 must now pass third reading in the Senate, which could happen as early as tomorrow, before receiving Royal Assent and becoming law.

[Donkey Oatey]

Originally Posted by Rod1960

Neither can I???? Last story on Google search is 2 days old. Possible Vic has an inside track?

Ya think? https://twitter.com/#!/ToewsVic http://www.victoews.com/

[huntinstuff]

Originally Posted by sheephunter

Tis true:


Various amendments were proposed by Liberal deputy chair Joan Fraser, including a requirement for businesses to keep records of transfers, and for individuals to be required to check purchaser’s licences with the Canadian Firearms Centre.

Senator Joan Fraser.

She hates me.

[SkytopBrewster]

Like how the liberal senator whats her name was not interested in scientific facts she was more interested in an opinion.