Global warming

[I’d rather be outdoors]

Ah yes, let’s still pretend this is about “global warming” and not just a wealth demand/transfer:

“ India and other developing countries are jointly demanding $1.3 trillion in “climate financing” every year by 2030, over and above what developed countries have already promised, if they are to introduce climate-change measures. Emerging economies will not sacrifice poverty eradication and economic development to follow a “net zero” approach that brings so much pain for such little climate reward”

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/der...nergy-security

And the icing on the cake:

“ Increased reliance on weather-dependent renewables and electric vehicles — the singular salvation for climate activists — ironically helps China, which dominates the global market on many renewable components. Of the 136 electric vehicle battery factories expected to be operational by 2029, a total of 101 will be in China. China has one quarter of the global supply of lithium, an essential EV material”

You don’t say…

Wonder what the next “crisis” will be after this one looses full credibility…or more likely how it’ll be rebranded.

[Trochu]

Originally Posted by I’d rather be outdoors

Wonder what the next “crisis” will be after this one looses full credibility….

My guess is food supply followed closely by fresh water.

[I’d rather be outdoors]

Originally Posted by Trochu

My guess is food supply followed closely by fresh water.

Doesn’t food just come from the fridge? I’m sure fertilizer cuts will help the cause…

[Sundancefisher]

Fun fact

About 6% of Californians own an EV

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-sta...ctric-vehicles

Recently California asked EV owners to limit charging their vehicles

https://www.newsweek.com/californian...-1738398?amp=1

California’s Energy grid can’t handle the power requirements. California want to ban gas powered vehicles by 2035.

Liberals are also looking to ban gasoline car sales by 2035. https://driving.ca/auto-news/news/th...682e66f3d/amp/

Canada has done zero to build the trillion dollar infrastructure upgrades and build nuclear power plants across the country to handle the load.

Anyone see a house of cards?

General feeling of those who support the EV initiatives is hope, hope, hope. The big hope is a miracle will come to solve…

The power load needed will be built somehow…nuclear?
The money to come from somewhere to build the power infrastructure
The material shortage such as rare earth elements to build EV’s will be found somewhere… open pit strip mining for EV’s is okay right.
New battery technology will be found
People in cold climates and rural areas won’t drive as much
Finding a way to recycle EV batteries will be developed.

[Fisherdan]

Originally Posted by Sundancefisher

Fun fact

About 6% of Californians own an EV

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-sta...ctric-vehicles

Recently California asked EV owners to limit charging their vehicles

https://www.newsweek.com/californian...-1738398?amp=1

California’s Energy grid can’t handle the power requirements. California want to ban gas powered vehicles by 2035.

Liberals are also looking to ban gasoline car sales by 2035. https://driving.ca/auto-news/news/th...682e66f3d/amp/

Canada has done zero to build the trillion dollar infrastructure upgrades and build nuclear power plants across the country to handle the load.

Anyone see a house of cards?

General feeling of those who support the EV initiatives is hope, hope, hope. The big hope is a miracle will come to solve…

The power load needed will be built somehow…nuclear?
The money to come from somewhere to build the power infrastructure
The material shortage such as rare earth elements to build EV’s will be found somewhere… open pit strip mining for EV’s is okay right.
New battery technology will be found
People in cold climates and rural areas won’t drive as much
Finding a way to recycle EV batteries will be developed.

Great post 👍

[barbless]

So then why isn't our ever loving Guberment sending money to the provinces for all the upgrades needed to deal with the up and coming power grid needs for the EV evolution instead of sending millions upon millions and more millions to other countries? HMMMMM Our front and back yards need to be taken care of.

[traderal]

Originally Posted by barbless

So then why isn't our ever loving Guberment sending money to the provinces for all the upgrades needed to deal with the up and coming power grid needs for the EV evolution instead of sending millions upon millions and more millions to other countries? HMMMMM Our front and back yards need to be taken care of.

Me thinks the millions line many pockets before the final dollar gets to the intended. This is all about finding another scam for a few well connected to get even richer and bleed our deficit even more. I expect our 1.3 trillion to grow to 2 trillion soon and nothing to show for it. Quite easy to do when most are being entertained by TikTok and Facebook.

[barbless]

Originally Posted by traderal

Me thinks the millions line many pockets before the final dollar gets to the intended. This is all about finding another scam for a few well connected to get even richer and bleed our deficit even more. I expect our 1.3 trillion to grow to 2 trillion soon and nothing to show for it. Quite easy to do when most are being entertained by TikTok and Facebook.

True Dat, as our country's clock goes TikTok TikTok replace battery. Only 14 trillion dollars. Thank you

[Lastcast]

Originally Posted by Sundancefisher

Fun fact

About 6% of Californians own an EV

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-sta...ctric-vehicles

I think your (USA News) numbers are a bit off - which actually makes your argument stronger.

According to Government of California website. As of 2021:

522,445 Registered Battery Electric vehicles (Hybrid is excluded from this total)
29,924,517 Total registered light duty vehicles
=~1.7% of registered California vehicles being full electric

https://www.energy.ca.gov/data-repor...t-duty-vehicle

[Ackleyman]

Originally Posted by barbless

So then why isn't our ever loving Guberment sending money to the provinces for all the upgrades needed to deal with the up and coming power grid needs for the EV evolution instead of sending millions upon millions and more millions to other countries? HMMMMM Our front and back yards need to be taken care of.

Quit sending money to other countries. They can hate us for free

[Sundancefisher]

Originally Posted by Lastcast

I think your (USA News) numbers are a bit off - which actually makes your argument stronger.

According to Government of California website. As of 2021:

522,445 Registered Battery Electric vehicles (Hybrid is excluded from this total)
29,924,517 Total registered light duty vehicles
=~1.7% of registered California vehicles being full electric

https://www.energy.ca.gov/data-repor...t-duty-vehicle

I went off the link that essentially said 6000 out of 100,000 have Electric vehicles. If they included hybrids… then the number surely drops.

[barbless]

No matter the numbers and percentages per capita the grid as it is will not keep up for trying to charge the EV system. It will be harder on our north of the 49th parallel with the not so warm all the time climate. Just give away an EV vehicle to everyone and see what happens. With the price to charge the EV and the charge to heat your home and run your appliances on, wonder if that was brought in to the equation. Gonna be all electric heat?

[huntinstuff]

Originally Posted by Ackleyman

Quit sending money to other countries. They can hate us for free

Exactly

That is the FIRST thing Id axe if I were PM.

Sending money is about the stupidest thing we do.

Encouraging a welfare mentality.

The most useless unmotivated hippy will get off the couch and work and contribute as soon as you cut his "guaranteed income"

Breathing is not an occupation.

[Smoky buck]

Hey if things keep warming up I will be able to retire in a milder climate without leaving the country

[Stinky Buffalo]

Originally Posted by Ackleyman

Quit sending money to other countries. They can hate us for free

It's quotes like this that remind me how much I enjoy this forum.

[I’d rather be outdoors]

Funny that people still ask individuals to profess their belief in “Climate Change”. Otherwise you’re branded as a heretic/denier. I’ve found that responding with “Sure, I “believe” in climate change, do you think killing off our economy for a 1.6% (debated) impact to global emissions is worth it? “Developing nations” demanding climate reparations is/will be the nail in the climate change coffin.

[Sundancefisher]

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada...om-oil-and-gas

This guy cracks me up with his incompetence

[I’d rather be outdoors]

Originally Posted by Sundancefisher

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada...om-oil-and-gas

This guy cracks me up with his incompetence

If anyone wanted a quotable reason why we’re becoming autonomous as a province, look no further. Remember, this guy is strangling the golden goose (& by proxy Alberta) over 1.6%. Chip off the ol’ block he is. Not even trying to hide it anymore.

[I’d rather be outdoors]

For once, I fully agree with the BBC. The largest CO2 emitters SHOULD be paying for “climate change”.

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/2...oss-and-damage

I look forward to getting my massive cheque from China, India, the US, Russia and other super high polluting nations. Between the hailstorms, choking on smoke from BC forest fires & floods, I expect a hefty sum for better housing materials, etc…

Something tells me that’s not quite what they were going for with this article though…

[barbless]

Mother Nature (as is called) will decide when it is time to shut us down. It seems to be coming with the start of the lack of glacier sizes. Loose Antarctica, the North Pole and Greenland (almost there), Never looked or researched but after so many years of abuse to our Earth, will let you know and shut you down. Over growing people population that need to drive, need to feed, cut down forests, rape the earth of it's natural resources, carbon producing countries, the list goes on and on. Our country carbon footprint is not that big for the size of our country. We don't need to subsidize others for their mistakes. We better start hoarding our fresh water.

[I’d rather be outdoors]

Originally Posted by barbless

We don't need to subsidize others for their mistakes.

Message from the super polluter bureaucrats: “We’re very overpopulated and not going to reduce emissions because it’s financially & politically detrimental for us to do so (we’ll loose our jobs). So, we’ll blame you instead, and you get to pay for all the upgrading we need to do so that this obviously unsustainable situation continues and we keep our positions for the foreseeable future. All under the guise of “climate change”, savvy?”

[Jays toyz]

We had 175 frost free days this year in GP. Nothing to see here....

[elkhunter11]

Given that there have been at least five ice ages, every period following an ice age experienced global warming. Man didn't exist for at least four of those periods of global warming, so why did they occur? I would like to see the climate change warriors explain that.

[nelsonob1]

Well I'm placing all my trust in you guys being right because otherwise we are all cooked.

[fordtruckin]

Originally Posted by Sundancefisher

Fun fact

About 6% of Californians own an EV

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-sta...ctric-vehicles

Recently California asked EV owners to limit charging their vehicles

https://www.newsweek.com/californian...-1738398?amp=1

California’s Energy grid can’t handle the power requirements. California want to ban gas powered vehicles by 2035.

Liberals are also looking to ban gasoline car sales by 2035. https://driving.ca/auto-news/news/th...682e66f3d/amp/

Canada has done zero to build the trillion dollar infrastructure upgrades and build nuclear power plants across the country to handle the load.

Anyone see a house of cards?

General feeling of those who support the EV initiatives is hope, hope, hope. The big hope is a miracle will come to solve…

The power load needed will be built somehow…nuclear?
The money to come from somewhere to build the power infrastructure
The material shortage such as rare earth elements to build EV’s will be found somewhere… open pit strip mining for EV’s is okay right.
New battery technology will be found
People in cold climates and rural areas won’t drive as much
Finding a way to recycle EV batteries will be developed.

What better way to control your population than limit where they can travel. Get rid of petroleum products and make them rely on batteries they can’t charge because the grid can’t handle it. Easier and more politically correct for a certain demographic to go along with right now than flat out saying where are your papers when wanting to travel from E town to cow town… it’s all happening this way for a reason people!

[I’d rather be outdoors]

Originally Posted by nelsonob1

Well I'm placing all my trust in you guys being right because otherwise we are all cooked.

I agree, again, start demand that cheque from China, India, & others. We’re a lowly 1.6% of the problem. I’m sure there’s plenty we can start doing with that windfall money that starts pouring in as reparations for the damage they’re causing.

[Jays toyz]

Originally Posted by fordtruckin

What better way to control your population than limit where they can travel. Get rid of petroleum products and make them rely on batteries they can’t charge because the grid can’t handle it. Easier and more politically correct for a certain demographic to go along with right now than flat out saying where are your papers when wanting to travel from E town to cow town… it’s all happening this way for a reason people!

Whoaa! That's a lot of poorly thought out conspiracy right there!

[silver]

Originally Posted by Jays toyz

Whoaa! That's a lot of poorly thought out conspiracy right there!

I agree with him. There is a move to control the use of fertilizer which would drop food production which would limit supply. If you can control travel and food, you control people.

[bessiedog]

You guys were better when we had a Trump thread goin.

[glen moa]

Originally Posted by silver

I agree with him. There is a move to control the use of fertilizer which would drop food production which would limit supply. If you can control travel and food, you control people.

And I agree with you.
Thank you to the people who I agree with.