Options needed 270

[northernelment]

I had posted earlier about buying a 243, after thinking about it for a while I wouldn't use a 243 as much as I thought and currently owning a 300 WSM it would be hard to carry just a 243 and watch an elk tease me while I'm hunting deer and haven't tagged out ( as that is often the case ). I'm tossing around the idea of putting my 300 on consignment at the local gun store and spending some good coin on an all round gun that would give me versatility, personally I think that would be a 270. I have really taking liking to the browning x-bolt stainless stalker and would spend the money and put quality optics on it. Thoughts or reviews on what you guys shoot for your " all purpose gun" or reviews on the browning SS x bolt?

Thanks

[sns2]

I like your cartridge choice. 270 Win is hard to beat for an all round Alberta cartridge. I just recently picked up a Sako Finnlight in 270 Win.

I have had an XBolt and feel it is an excellent rifle. I would not hesitate to get another. It fit me really well. Shouldn't have sold it. Might have to buy another

[twofifty]

How does the recoil feel on your 300 WSM?

[northernelment]

My300 wsm definitely has some bite, it isn't a gun I like to sit behind and shoot boxes of shells through, I found that for the first bit of sighting it in I was for lack of a better word scared of it but I grew to like it.

[twofifty]

The 270 will be way more fun then.
I had a 308 and downsized to a 260.

[super7mag]

I guess it depends on what kind of all around gun you want. If you want to hunt predators and throw in the odd deer a 243 is fine. If you want to hunt mostly deer with the odd moose or elk thrown in 270 is a better choice. 25-06 may be another one to look at.
What is the reasoning for selling the 300? Just bored of it or didn't like?

[nelsonob1]

Browning are nice rifles and the 270 fits your stated criteria very well, as would the 7mm08. If the X bolt fits then buy it new or post a thread on this forum that you are looking for one.

[northernelment]

if i sell my 300 it is just beacuse i wouldnt use it, as much. i really could probaby keep it

[Ice Fishing Maniac]

I like the 270WSM but nothing wrong with 270. Maybe a 7mm-08 would be another great pick. 6.5x55 Swede is another.

[Dudes2010]

If I had to use only ONE cartridge for an all around "Albert Game" gun, it would be my 270 win, hands down. More than enough power to take most big game we hunt here. I love my 270, wouldnt trade it for anything. find a load with a good quality 130gr bullet and your set.

Cheers, Dudes 2010

[Pudelpointer]

Originally Posted by northernelment

if i sell my 300 it is just beacuse i wouldnt use it, as much. i really could probaby keep it

Selling firearms just because they don't get used as much as others?!?! I hope this doesn't catch on....

I refuse to own firearms that don't get hunted. Having said that, most of mine only get to go for a walk once every year or so, but they get hunted!

[skidderman]

Nothing wrong with the 300wsm for deer as long as one uses bullets that don't grenade. Still like you said, not a gun you want to shoot a lot at one sitting. For many years I used a 308 on moose, elk and deer and it did very well. Hard to beat a 308, 270 or the trusty old 3006 for that matter. One thing about either of these three is ammo is cheap to buy.

[ACKLEY ABE]

Nothing wrong with 270 and yes I have one, but I've hunted with quite a number of different cartridges and it would not be my "Alberta all-round cartridge", wouldn't even make the top 5 for me. If there were only two rifles in the rack and one was a 270 and the other was a 280, the 270 would be left at home. In fact come to think of it, it always does get left at home. Not that the 280 gets out a lot either, but given the choice of the two.........

That being said, would I feel under-gunned in Alberta with a 270 and the right bullets.....of course not.

[Homesteader]

Cmon Abe, Al Baker used to say God shot one!

I use mine just as often as my 300, but I don't hunt much deer, mostly bigger stuff. So many good rounds out there, but If I had to go to one, it would be my 270 I think, mostly cause it's done so well for me.

[ACKLEY ABE]

Originally Posted by Homesteader

Cmon Abe, Al Baker used to say God shot one!

I use mine just as often as my 300, but I don't hunt much deer, mostly bigger stuff. So many good rounds out there, but If I had to go to one, it would be my 270 I think, mostly cause it's done so well for me.

Al was one of the few ppl that used the right bullets at the time Speer Grand Slams. I have another freind that used 150's and he did well with his as well. In fact when I worked up a load with mine it was based on his experiences with 270's Now, there are several good bullets available.

[redbike]

The great Jack O'Connor staked his professional reputation (a considerable one at the time) on promoting the .270 caliber in the middle years of the last century. I bought mine partly because of this, but also because it suits hunting in Alberta to a 'T'. Mine comes wrapped up by Remington - 700 custom mountain.

[Homesteader]

Originally Posted by ACKLEY ABE

Al was one of the few ppl that used the right bullets at the time Speer Grand Slams. I have another freind that used 150's and he did well with his as well. In fact when I worked up a load with mine it was based on his experiences with 270's Now, there are several good bullets available.

I've gone modern with it, mostly sees 140g TSX's, close to 2900 at the muzzle. That's out of a 22" Rem Mountain rifle, totally stock, never bedded, shoots the lights out!!

[kujoseto]

I am not recommending you sell your rifle, but if you do, I would suggest starting here in the Buy and Sell before consignment. Consignment will not get you as much for it. Also, if you can buy a new one and have both, why not buy it before selling this one??? You may end up wanting both or selling the new one instead.

My experience with an xbolt is that it is very accurate but I do not care for the magazine or the action. Didn't fit me overly well either, so I guess if you find one you like, I'd go for it because it will be a shooter. Found sako (even the sako a7) and tikka are very accurate too...I'd choose one of them over the xbolt.
I'd also choose the 280 over the 270 or 30-06, but I doubt I'd notice the difference if someone switched it out while I wasn't looking.
Have fun with buying a new rifle!

[birdslayer]

This may be a bit onthe subjective side of a few , there is nothing wrong with the 243 taking lk anð moose. I. Personally have owned a 270 , and do own a sàko 25-06 , shooting both there is little difference out to 300 meters. This is where the veloity of the 25-06 shows up. Check out the tables of bullet drops and velocities. As for a 243 , I have witnessed shots on moose out to 450 yds., and elk to 350 , all and I say all where taken with one bullet and no follow up . In my opinion it is the person behind the gun that is more important than the calibre you shoot. Better to have one gun you can shoot very well than several you can't. My son now has the 270 and is deadly with it, he shot a whitetail buck 5 times with 5 shots going through the bush and has taken an elk with it , just one shot .

[waterhaulerhunter]

I like the .270 win and a buddy uses his for everything. That being said I prefer the 7-08. Why you ask? I have no idea lol just sounds cooler I guess.

[roadkill]

I like the .270 Win because it'll kill almost anything around my neck of the woods dead, and it's low-key enough on the kick side that I can possibly someday convince the missus to try it out. I'm always on the lookout for something that's even lighter, though. I have a daughter who I'm hoping to start out at 12 (okay, so in 9.5 years, but hey, I like to think about this stuff), and was thinking of a 243 for that. It's the minimum calibre that's legal for deer in my province.

I would not be replacing my .270, though. Just adding to the safe...

Not trying to hijack, but has anyone got any thoughts on the 308 vs 270 Win in terms of recoil?

Also, I have no experience with the Brownings at all, but they sure *look* cool...

[dgl1948]

The 270 is a great all rounder. For your daughter, start watching for a good bolt action 250 Savage. They are hard to come by but are a perfect starter cartridge and with over 9 years to go you should be able to find one.

Originally Posted by roadkill

I like the .270 Win because it'll kill almost anything around my neck of the woods dead, and it's low-key enough on the kick side that I can possibly someday convince the missus to try it out. I'm always on the lookout for something that's even lighter, though. I have a daughter who I'm hoping to start out at 12 (okay, so in 9.5 years, but hey, I like to think about this stuff), and was thinking of a 243 for that. It's the minimum calibre that's legal for deer in my province.

I would not be replacing my .270, though. Just adding to the safe...

Not trying to hijack, but has anyone got any thoughts on the 308 vs 270 Win in terms of recoil?

Also, I have no experience with the Brownings at all, but they sure *look* cool...

[Flatlandliver]

Not trying to hijack, but has anyone got any thoughts on the 308 vs 270 Win in terms of recoil?

The rifle will have way more impact on recoil then the caliber. In the same rifle there's not much diff.

Cartridge (Wb@MV) Rifle Weight Recoil energy Recoil velocity
.17 HMR (17 at 2550) 7.5 0.2 n/a
.17 Rem. (25 at 4000) 8.5 1.6 3.5
.204 Ruger (33 at 4225) 8.5 2.6 4.4
.218 Bee (45 at 2800) 8.5 1.3 3.1
.219 Wasp (55 at 3300) 8.5 3.2 4.9
.219 Zipper (55 at 3400) 8.5 3.4 5.1
.22 LR (40 at 1165) 4.0 0.2 n/a
.22 WMR (40 at 1910) 6.75 0.4 n/a
.22 Hornet (45 at 2800) 7.5 1.3 3.3
.22 PPC (52 at 3300) 8.5 3.0 4.8
.221 Fireball (50 at 3000) 8.5 1.8 3.7
.222 Rem. (50 at 3200) 7.5 3.0 5.1
.223 Rem. (45 at 3500) 8.5 2.6 4.5
.223 Rem. (55 at 3200) 8.0 3.2 5.1
.223 Rem. (62 at 3025) 7.0 3.9 6.0
.225 Win. (55 at 3700) 8.5 4.4 5.7
.224 Wby. Mag. (55 at 3700) 10.0 3.6 4.8
.22-250 Rem. (55 at 3600) 8.5 4.7 6.0
.22-250 Rem. (60 at 3500) 12.5 3.1 4.0
.220 Swift (50 at 3900) 10.5 3.7 4.8
.220 Swift (55 at 3800) 8.5 5.3 6.4
.223 WSSM (55 at 3850) 7.5 6.4 7.4
.224 TTH (80 at 3550) 7.5 10.2 9.4
5.6x50 Mag. (60 at 3300) 7.5 4.0 5.9
5.6x52R (70 at 2800) 7.5 3.7 5.7
5.6x57 RWS (60 at 3800) 7.5 6.9 7.7
6mm PPC (85 at 2800) 7.5 5.3 n/a
6mm BR Rem. (80 at 3100) 8.5 5.2 6.3
6mm-223 (75 at 2950) 7.5 4.6 n/a
6mm Norma BR (95 at 2914) 8.5 5.9 6.7
6mm Lee Navy (112 at 2650) 8.5 6.5 7.0
.243 Win. (75 at 3400) 8.5 7.2 7.4
.243 Win. (95 at 3100) 7.25 11.0 9.9
.243 Win. (100 at 2960) 7.5 8.8 8.7
6mm Rem. (100 at 3100) 8.0 10.0 9.0
.243 WSSM (100 at 3100) 7.5 10.1 9.3
6mm-284 (105 at 3000) 7.5 10.9 9.7
6mm-06 (105 at 3000) 8.0 10.2 9.1
.240 Wby. Mag. (100 at 3406) 8.0 17.9 n/a
.25-20 Win. (86 at 1460) 6.5 1.3 3.5
.256 Win. Mag. (75 at 2400) 7.5 2.4 4.5
.25-35 Win. (117 at 2230) 6.5 7.0 8.3
.250 Savage (100 at 2900) 7.5 7.8 8.2
.257 Roberts (100 at 3000) 7.5 9.3 8.9
.257 Roberts (120 at 2800) 8.0 10.7 9.3
.257 Rob. Imp. (115 at 2900) 8.0 10.8 9.3
.25 WSSM (120 at 2990) 7.25 13.8 11.1
.25-06 Rem. (100 at 3230) 8.0 11.0 9.4
.25-06 Rem. (120 at 3000) 8.0 12.5 10.0
.257 Wby. Mag. (100 at 3602) 9.25 15.8 10.5
.257 Wby. Mag. (115 at 3433) 9.25 17.7 11.1
.257 Wby. Mag. (120 at 3300) 9.25 15.1 10.3
6.5mm Grendel (120 at 2600) 7.5 8.9 8.8
6.5x50 Arisaka (140 at 2600) 8.0 10.0 n/a
6.5x52 M-C (140 at 2200) 8.0 7.8 n/a
6.5x54 M-S (140 at 2400) 7.5 11.1 9.7
6.5x55 Swede (129 at 2700) 8.0 12.5 10.0
6.5x55 Swede (140 at 2650) 9.0 10.6 8.7
.260 Rem. (120 at 2860) 7.5 13.0 10.6
.260 Rem. (140 at 2750) 8.25 11.9 9.7
6.5x57 (140 at 2700) 8.0 12.5 10.0
6.5mm-284 Norma (140 at 2920) 8.0 14.7 10.9
6.5mm Rem. Mag. (120 at 3100) 8.0 13.1 10.3
6.5mm Rem. Mag. (140 at 2900) 8.5 13.9 10.3
6.5x68 S (140 at 2990) 8.5 16.8 11.3
.264 Win. Mag. (140 at 3200) 8.5 19.2 12.1
6.8mm Rem. SPC (115 at 2625) 7.5 8.0 8.3
.270 Win. (130 at 3140) 8.0 16.5 n/a
.270 Win. (140 at 3000) 8.0 17.1 11.7
.270 Win. (150 at 2900) 8.0 17.0 11.7
.270 WSM (130 at 3275) 8.0 18.7 12.3
.270 WSM (150 at 3000) 8.0 18.9 12.3
.270 Wby. Mag. (130 at 3375) 9.0 21.0 12.3
.270 Wby. Mag. (150 at 3000) 9.25 17.8 11.1
7-30 Waters (120 at 2700) 7.0 10.0 9.6
7x57 Mauser (139 at 2700) 8.75 11.7 9.3
7x57 Mauser (145 at 2725) 8.5 13.0 9.9
7x57 Mauser (160 at 2600) 8.0 14.3 n/a
7x57 Mauser (175 at 2500) 8.0 15.5 11.2
7mm-08 Rem. (120 at 3000) 7.5 12.1 10.2
7mm-08 Rem. (140 at 2860) 8.0 12.6 10.1
.284 Win (150 at 2860) 7.5 17.4 n/a
7x64 (154 at 2850) 8.0 17.9 n/a
7x65R (175 at 2600) 8.0 17.1 11.7
.280 Rem. (140 at 3000) 8.0 17.2 11.8
.280 Rem. (150 at 2900) 8.0 17.4 11.8
.280 Rem. (160 at 2800) 8.0 17.0 11.7
7x61 S&H Mag. (154 at 3000) 8.5 18.4 11.8
7mm Rem. SAUM (160 at 2931) 8.0 21.5 13.2
7mm WSM (140 at 3200) 8.0 20.7 12.9
7mm WSM (160 at 3000) 8.0 21.9 13.3
7mm Rem. Mag. (139 at 3100) 9.0 19.3 11.8
7mm Rem. Mag. (150 at 3100) 8.5 19.2 12.1
7mm Rem. Mag. (160 at 2950) 9.0 20.3 12.0
7mm Rem. Mag. (175 at 2870) 9.0 21.7 12.5
.275 H&H Mag. (160 at 3050) 8.5 19.5 12.2
7mm Wby. Mag. (140 at 3300) 9.25 19.5 11.7
7mm Wby. Mag. (160 at 3200) 9.0 25.6 13.5
7mm STW (160 at 3185) 8.5 27.9 14.6
7mm Ultra Mag. (140 at 3425) 8.5 25.3 n/a
7mm Ultra Mag. (160 at 3200) 8.5 29.4 n/a
.30 Carbine (110 at 1990) 7.0 3.5 5.7
.30 Rem. (170 at 2120) 7.5 9.8 9.2
.30-30 Win. (150 at 2400) 7.5 10.6 9.5
.30-30 Win. (160 at 2400) 7.5 12.7 10.5
.30-30 Win. (170 at 2200) 7.5 11.0 9.7
.30-40 Krag (180 at 2430) 8.0 16.6 n/a
.300 Sav. (150 at 2630) 7.5 14.8 n/a
.307 Win. (150 at 2600) 7.5 13.7 10.9
.308 Marlin Express (160 at 2660) 8.0 13.4 10.4
7.5x55 Swiss (150 at 2800) 9.0 12.9 9.6
.308 Win. (150 at 2800) 7.5 15.8 11.7
.308 Win. (165 at 2700) 7.5 18.1 12.5
.308 Win. (180 at 2610) 8.0 17.5 11.9
.30-06 Spfd. (150 at 2910) 8.0 17.6 11.9
.30-06 Spfd. (165 at 2900) 8.0 20.1 12.7
.30-06 Spfd. (180 at 2700) 8.0 20.3 12.8
.300 Rem. SAUM (180 at 2960) 8.25 23.5 13.6
.300 WSM (150 at 3300) 8.25 22.5 13.3
.300 WSM (180 at 2970) 7.25 27.1 15.5
.300 WSM (180 at 2970) 8.25 23.8 13.6
.308 Norma Mag. (180 at 3000) 8.5 25.9 14.0
.300 Win. Mag. (150 at 3320) 8.5 23.5 13.3
.300 Win. Mag. (165 at 3110) 8.0 26.2 14.5
.300 Win. Mag. (180 at 2960) 8.5 25.9 14.0
.300 H&H Mag. (180 at 2920) 8.5 23.1 13.2
.300 Dakota (180 at 3100) 8.5 28.3 14.7
.300 Wby. Mag. (150 at 3400) 9.25 24.6 13.1
.300 Wby. Mag. (180 at 3240) 9.0 31.6 15.0
.300 Ultra Mag. (180 at 3230) 8.5 32.8 15.8
.30-378 Wby. Mag. (180 at 3300) 9.75 42.6 16.8
7.62x39 Soviet (125 at 2350) 7.0 6.9 8.0
.303 Savage (170 at 2170) 7.5 10.3 9.4
7.65x53 Mauser (180 at 2500) 8.0 15.4 n/a
7.62x53R Finn (150 at 2800) 9.0 13.1 9.7
7.62x54R Russian (150 at 2800) 9.0 13.1 9.7
7.62x54R Russian (174 at 2600) 9.0 15.0 10.4
.303 British (150 at 2700) 7.5 14.2 11.0
.303 British (180 at 2420) 8.0 15.4 11.1
7.7x58 Jap (150 at 2700) 9.0 11.9 9.2
.32-20 Win. (100 at 1984) 6.5 3.3 n/a
.32 Spec. (170 at 2250) 7.0 12.2 10.6
8x56 M-S (170 at 2260) 8.0 12.4 10.0
8x57 Mauser (170 at 2400) 8.0 13.6 10.4
8x57JS Mauser (150 at 2900) 8.0 17.1 11.7
8x57JS Mauser (195 at 2500) 8.0 18.5 12.2
.325 WSM (180 at 3060) 7.5 33.1 16.9
.325 WSM (220 at 2840) 7.5 37.5 17.9
8x68S (150 at 3300) 8.5 25.3 13.9
8x68S (200 at 2950) 9.0 29.1 14.4
8mm Rem. Mag. (200 at 2900) 8.5 32.9 15.8
.33 Win. (200 at 2100) 8.0 13.9 10.6
.338-57 O'Connor (200 at 2400) 8.0 19.2 12.4
.338 Marlin Express (200 at 2400) 8.0 16.2 11.4
.338 Marlin Express (200 at 2600) 8.0 22.0 14.0
.338 Federal (200 at 2600) 7.0 22.2 14.3
.338 Federal (210 at 2630) 8.0 21.9 13.3
.338-06 A-Square (200 at 2800) 8.0 23.9 13.9
.338-06 A-Square (250 at 2500) 8.5 28.2 14.6
.338 Win. Mag. (200 at 2950) 8.5 32.8 15.8
.338 Win. Mag. (225 at 2780) 8.5 35.2 16.3
.338 Win. Mag. (250 at 2700) 9.0 33.1 15.4
.330 Dakota (250 at 2878) 8.5 40.5 17.6
.340 Wby. Mag. (200 at 3100) 10.0 29.6 13.8
.340 Wby. Mag. (250 at 2941) 9.0 43.4 17.6
.338 Ultra Mag (250 at 2860) 8.5 43.1 n/a
.338 Lapua Mag. (225 at 3000) 9.5 37.2 15.9

[ACKLEY ABE]

Originally Posted by Homesteader

I've gone modern with it, mostly sees 140g TSX's, close to 2900 at the muzzle. That's out of a 22" Rem Mountain rifle, totally stock, never bedded, shoots the lights out!!

Yip thats what I mean about the right bullet. Much more available now...used to be 130's or 150's not much else.

I'm using 150's outta my Winchester Featherweight that I bought from Bob Prestash just for the wood.
Bob held it up when I entered the store, I said "how much"...."I'll take it, what calibre is it" ?....Fiddleback the whole length of the stk. ..needed a pressure pt on the fore end and then shot real nice.

Wood stkd Mtn rifle?

[leo]

Originally Posted by ACKLEY ABE

Nothing wrong with 270 and yes I have one, but I've hunted with quite a number of different cartridges and it would not be my "Alberta all-round cartridge", wouldn't even make the top 5 for me. If there were only two rifles in the rack and one was a 270 and the other was a 280, the 270 would be left at home. In fact come to think of it, it always does get left at home. Not that the 280 gets out a lot either, but given the choice of the two.........

That being said, would I feel under-gunned in Alberta with a 270 and the right bullets.....of course not.

Yup, me too. If I was forced to one gun for all my local hunting, it would be a 280 or a 7x57. I hope I never have to make that a reality.

[Homesteader]

Originally Posted by ACKLEY ABE

Yip thats what I mean about the right bullet. Much more available now...used to be 130's or 150's not much else.

I'm using 150's outta my Winchester Featherweight that I bought from Bob Prestash just for the wood.
Bob held it up when I entered the store, I said "how much"...."I'll take it, what calibre is it" ?....Fiddleback the whole length of the stk. ..needed a pressure pt on the fore end and then shot real nice.

Wood stkd Mtn rifle?

Yep, mines a wood stocked job.

And don't worry Bob knew my weaknesses just like everyone else. He got me on more then a few he had hidden behind the back door in wait A good time for sure at Trail.

[ACKLEY ABE]

Originally Posted by Homesteader

Yep, mines a wood stocked job.

And don't worry Bob knew my weaknesses just like everyone else. He got me on more then a few he had hidden behind the back door in wait A good time for sure at Trail.

My 280AI is on a wood-stkd Mtn rifle...I do like that stk.