Vegetarians - The Other Point of View

[Stinky Buffalo]

An interesting discussion.

Vegetarians from the Other Point of View

[Sheepcrazyguy]

LOL thanks for posting that!

[FatBuck]

That was good.

[Nerdapres']

I friggin' love roasted squash. I eat meat, but that meal actually sounded pretty good.

[dmckay]

Lmfaorofl!!!!!!!!!

[LiegeRiver]

Originally Posted by dmckay

Lmfaorofl!!!!!!!!!

What he said!!!!!!!!!!

[Gorram]

LOL!

I'm with the nuge: "I love vegetarians, there all I eat!"

Cheers, G.

[CaberTosser]

I love the turnaround: " I was sort of expecting you to return the effort". How many times do people expect you to bend over to cater to their idiosyncracies or preferences yet they won't do something in kind?

Them: "We're Veggie's"
Me: "Those canine teeth in your mouth and meat digesting enzymes in your stomach & digestive tract beg to differ".

[Copidosoma]

That was pretty well done. Sending it to the wife (15 years of vegetarianism) now.
Although I suspect there are a few around here who would get choked up if you were to eat their dog. Not sure why, it is just meat ... right?

[conservationist]

I kind of enjoy it when a vegetarian or vegan claims to be morally superior to we meat eating hunters. It really messes with thier minds when I point out that they pay someone else to do thier killing for them - someone is killing the rats that are not crapping in thier granola - et cetera. They have usually never thought about where thier food comes from, what thier food/clothes/shelter cost wildlife, let alone unnecessary shopping and the environmental cost of thier chosen recreational activites. It's never my intent to change someone's choices, just to make them think about them, and I must confess to enoying the mental turmoil that making them think creates if they came at me in attack mode...

[Kingfisher]

I really wasn't planning on clicking on that link. But then I figured why not. I am glad I had a pee before watching that, or I surely would have ****ed my pants laughing.

Thanks for the laugh SB. That was priceless.

Rob

[Copidosoma]

Originally Posted by conservationist

I kind of enjoy it when a vegetarian or vegan claims to be morally superior to we meat eating hunters. It really messes with thier minds when I point out that they pay someone else to do thier killing for them - someone is killing the rats that are not crapping in thier granola - et cetera. They have usually never thought about where thier food comes from, what thier food/clothes/shelter cost wildlife, let alone unnecessary shopping and the environmental cost of thier chosen recreational activites. It's never my intent to change someone's choices, just to make them think about them, and I must confess to enoying the mental turmoil that making them think creates if they came at me in attack mode...

Having said all that...

meat production does take up alot of resources. So, anyone who is willing to reduce (or even eliminate) their meat consumption gets a thumbs up from me. Every belief system has its whackos and extremists. Doesn't mean they are all bad though. I suspect that alot of the people you are trying to slag put alot more thought into the costs of their activities than most folks.

Still a funny video though.

[albertadave]

Originally Posted by Copidosoma

Having said all that...

meat production does take up alot of resources. So, anyone who is willing to reduce (or even eliminate) their meat consumption gets a thumbs up from me.

And as someone who derives a portion of their annual income from the beef/cattle industry, you get a thumbs down from me for that statement copidosoma.

[Copidosoma]

Originally Posted by delburnedave

And as someone who derives a portion of their annual income from the beef/cattle industry, you get a thumbs down from me for that statement copidosoma.

Fair enough. To each their own. As long as people get to make the choice...

[Denadii Cho]

LOL I loved it. I just have to send that to my vegan grand daughter.

meat production does take up alot of resources. So, anyone who is willing to reduce (or even eliminate) their meat consumption gets a thumbs up from me.

And vegetable/grain production doesn't? I'd venture to say that the habitat destruction by a well run ranch is much less than that of a grain or vegetable operation. Add to that, the fact that vegetables must be shipped long distances for all but a few months of the year and more precious resources are used in fuel, road contruction and even the death of animals on the highway is significant. Any vegetarian that feels they are having less impact on the environment is fooling themselves. I've got no problems with people that choose to be vegetarians or vegans but don't try to convince me that's it's an environmentally friendly choice. In Kathleen Marquart's book, Animal Scam, she goes into great (documented) detail about the true cost to the environment of being a vegetarian or vegan. It's not as environmentally friendly as some believe.

[Copidosoma]

Originally Posted by sheephunter

And vegetable/grain production doesn't? I'd venture to say that the habitat destruction by a well run ranch is much less than that of a grain or vegetable operation. Add to that, the fact that vegetables must be shipped long distances for all but a few months of the year and more precious resources are used in fuel, road contruction and even the death of animals on the highway is significant. Any vegetarian that feels they are having less impact on the environment is fooling themselves. I've got no problems with people that choose to be vegetarians or vegans but don't try to convince me that's it's an environmentally friendly choice. In Kathleen Marquart's book, Animal Scam, she goes into great (documented) detail about the true cost to the environment of being a vegetarian or vegan. It's not as environmentally friendly as some believe.

Of course it does. However, you would have a heck of a time convincing me that you can produce 100 calories (or however you want to measure it) of beef with anywhere near the amount of resources (water, land, feed (which takes resources to produce) it would take to do it with plants. And I'd venture to say that not all meat production facilities are "well run". Flying plums from Chile certainly makes the veggie route alot more resource intensive but you can argue about transportation costs on meat too.

I haven't read the book and I don't want to suggest that there isn't a case to be made (nothing is ever as clear as it seems on the surface) but "true costs" are something we ALL tend to do a really poor job estimating.

Ultimately, most of our problems can be tracked back to the billions of mouths to feed. Meat or veggie, they all have an impact. But that is another story...

Never said that everyone should turn vegitarian to save the world or even that the veggies don't have any impact on the world or anything. I just won't mock them on principle.

"true costs" are something we ALL tend to do a really poor job estimating.

That was my point with vegitarians.

I just won't mock them on principle.

If their principal is less environmental impact....feel free to mock them.