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09-13-2012, 03:43 PM
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Regulation - 3 Hooks
Thinking of tandem rig of three flies: 1 hopper + 2 nymphs. But not quite sure about the reg here.
It is unlawful to •Use a line in angling equipped with MORE than three hooks ...
Does this include 3 hooks?
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09-13-2012, 03:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rememe
Thinking of tandem rig of three flies: 1 hopper + 2 nymphs. But not quite sure about the reg here.
It is unlawful to •Use a line in angling equipped with MORE than three hooks ...
Does this include 3 hooks?
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I think thye are talking about more than three individual hooks, not flies with with three hooks, so you may be out of luck.....
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09-13-2012, 04:03 PM
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You can have 3 flies.
You can have 3 hooks on your line at once whether I be 3 trebles or 3 singles it doesn't matter.
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09-13-2012, 04:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rememe
Thinking of tandem rig of three flies: 1 hopper + 2 nymphs. But not quite sure about the reg here.
It is unlawful to •Use a line in angling equipped with MORE than three hooks ...
Does this include 3 hooks?
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Using Hopper droppers is quite common and legal with up to 3 flies or for example a 3 nymph or dry fly rig.
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09-13-2012, 04:39 PM
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Yup, legal in AB, but not legal in many waters of BC.
Hopper-dropper-dropper!
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09-13-2012, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by DiabeticKripple
You can have 3 flies.
You can have 3 hooks on your line at once whether I be 3 trebles or 3 singles it doesn't matter.
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You cannot have 3 treble hooks on a line, only 1.
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09-13-2012, 04:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WorldClass
You cannot have 3 treble hooks on a line, only 1.
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you are incorrect to my knowledge
treble hooks are regarded as single hooks. their unifying feature is a single shank
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09-13-2012, 04:47 PM
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Use a line in angling equipped with more than three hooks (e.g., three
hooks, or three single-hook lures, or one three-hook lure).
Use a lure in angling with more than three hooks as part of it.
Use a hook with more than three points on a common shaft (see
Important Definitions, page 15).
I remember this from a previous forum post on the subject. Think it was about p-rigs.
hmm, 3 hook lure, definition for hook under the regs is
Hook – means a single-, double- or triple-pointed hook on a common
shaft, and includes hooks attached to a lure.
(Note: some legal lures appear to have a hook with four points, but
actually have two shafts each with two points, meaning that this lure has
two hooks).
looks like I'm wrong. seems a little unfair, and particularly damaging to fish using 3 treble hooks...
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09-13-2012, 05:17 PM
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yup 3 trebles is fine, as long as they are on a common shaft, making a treble a single hook, and legal.
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09-13-2012, 06:34 PM
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Personally, I'd feel like slapping someone if I saw them using 3 trebbles, even more so if they're using bait, and doubly more so if it was in trout waters. trebble hooks destroy trout.
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09-13-2012, 07:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WorldClass
Personally, I'd feel like slapping someone if I saw them using 3 trebbles, even more so if they're using bait, and doubly more so if it was in trout waters. trebble hooks destroy trout.
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I use bait every day, and there are trout in here. feel free to come lose your slapping hand anytime
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09-13-2012, 07:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WayneChristie
I use bait every day, and there are trout in here. feel free to come lose your slapping hand anytime
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09-13-2012, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by fishdude17
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09-13-2012, 08:38 PM
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Lol!
I could put "X4" but that would just be silly...
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09-13-2012, 08:57 PM
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i find that trebles tend to get caught in the face instead of the mouth. only have ever had one fish have 2 hooks in the top, and one in the bottom.
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The mortality rate for bait-caught trout is around 24%. Treble lure (such as a len thompson) I believe is around 10-15%, and single hook or fly is 5%. Not that I'm criticizing, just stating the facts. Although I only will use bait for trout in stocked lakes, and use a single circle hook.
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09-15-2012, 09:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WayneChristie
I use bait every day, and there are trout in here. feel free to come lose your slapping hand anytime
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just cuz I feel that way doesn't mean I'm going to be doing it. You are entitled to do anything you feel like and I am in no posistion to say otherwise or to stop you from doing it. I am however entitled to voice my opinions, agree or disagree it's part of what makes this society a great as it is.
I am from northern BC and trout and salmon are the only fish in the waters up there, with burbot in the larger lakes and I have seen the damage done by treble hooks on trout and I don't use treble hooks when fishing for them, and I enjoy the challenge of fishing without bait. I know there are some waters where you're not going to catch anything without bait and there are some species that you will not catch without bait.
I was more refering to if I saw someone with a triple treble hook rig with bait on each hook fishing for 10-14" trout, I would feel like slapping them. I don't know, maybe it's just me, but I like a challenge when I go fishing.
I'd also like to point out that I was just stating a personal opinion and not calling people out. only to return to find myself being called out. Kinda makes me sad inside.
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09-15-2012, 09:45 AM
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Then you shouldn't tell people incorrect info regarding the laws of fishing in alberta, and that you feel like slapping them for doing what is their legal right to do......
Or just put your flame suit on and don't worry about it.....
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09-15-2012, 10:19 AM
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It is the legal right of some people to stone to death a woman who was raped. I have a negative opinion on that as well.
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09-15-2012, 10:24 AM
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Thats where part two of my post kicks into play
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09-15-2012, 10:26 AM
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09-15-2012, 11:17 AM
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You could have a hook with 10 points on it as long as it only had 1 single shaft it's legal , and you can have 3 per line . So your 3 flies are not an issue .
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09-15-2012, 12:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BBJTKLE&FISHINGADVENTURES
You could have a hook with 10 points on it as long as it only had 1 single shaft it's legal
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From the regs page 15: "Hook - means a single-, double- or triple-pointed hook on a common shaft, and includes hooks attached to a lure."
10 points would be illegal.
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09-15-2012, 01:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by voidspace
From the regs page 15: "Hook - means a single-, double- or triple-pointed hook on a common shaft, and includes hooks attached to a lure."
10 points would be illegal.
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Where do you read that , I have never read that always 3 hooks .
Regulations say
Use a line in angling equipped with more than three hooks (e.g., three hooks, or three single-hook lures, or one three-hook lure).
Use a lure in angling with more than three hooks as part of it.
Use a hook with more than three points on a common shaft (see Important Definitions).
Hummm apparently your right , never saw the use of more than 3 points on a common shaft . But a hook with more than 3 points is useless anyway .
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09-15-2012, 01:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BBJTKLE&FISHINGADVENTURES
Where do you read that , I have never read that always 3 hooks .
Regulations say
Use a line in angling equipped with more than three hooks (e.g., three hooks, or three single-hook lures, or one three-hook lure).
Use a lure in angling with more than three hooks as part of it.
Use a hook with more than three points on a common shaft (see Important Definitions).
There using a single point hook , a double hook and treble hook as examples nothing about more . A hook is made up of one single shank . Theres no mention of how many points . Just so your clear on your post .
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im sorry but your wrong.
It Is Unlawful To:
Use a hook that is not a barbless hook. (See definition of barbless hook.)
Use more than one line when angling into open water.
Use more than two lines when angling into ice-covered water.
While angling be further than 30 m from any line in the water.
Use a line in angling equipped with more than three hooks (e.g., three hooks, or three single-hook lures, or one three-hook lure).
Use a lure in angling with more than three hooks as part of it.
Use a hook with more than three points on a common shaft (see Important Definitions).
Hook – means a single-, double- or triple-pointed hook on a common shaft, and includes hooks attached to a lure.
(Note: some legal lures appear to have a hook with four points, but actually have two shafts each with two points, meaning that this lure has two hooks).
you can only use trebles. no more.
you edited while i was getting the info haha
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09-15-2012, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by DiabeticKripple
im sorry but your wrong.
It Is Unlawful To:
Use a hook that is not a barbless hook. (See definition of barbless hook.)
Use more than one line when angling into open water.
Use more than two lines when angling into ice-covered water.
While angling be further than 30 m from any line in the water.
Use a line in angling equipped with more than three hooks (e.g., three hooks, or three single-hook lures, or one three-hook lure).
Use a lure in angling with more than three hooks as part of it.
Use a hook with more than three points on a common shaft (see Important Definitions).
Yep I was wrong , I just never read that line before , wonder if it's in other regulations I'll look .
Hook – means a single-, double- or triple-pointed hook on a common shaft, and includes hooks attached to a lure.
(Note: some legal lures appear to have a hook with four points, but actually have two shafts each with two points, meaning that this lure has two hooks).
you can only use trebles. no more.
you edited while i was getting the info haha
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Yep I was wrong , I just never read that line before , wonder if it's in other regulations I'll look .
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09-15-2012, 05:07 PM
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I use 3 baited trebles to fish for whitefish.
Works like a charm ice fishing...
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09-16-2012, 08:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WorldClass
Personally, I'd feel like slapping someone if I saw them using 3 trebbles, even more so if they're using bait, and doubly more so if it was in trout waters. trebble hooks destroy trout.
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use trebbles with barbs gone in our dugout all the time ,on problems at all.
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