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Deadbeats who refuse to pay
Well, it finally happened. As usual, we quote a job, it is accepted, we do the job and payment is received at the time of completion.
I quoted a job in an upscale area in SE Edmonton and the quote was accepted by the homeowner. He was present during the work, was happy at completion as we always do a final walk about with the owner to ensure he is happy, everything is done, and we get paid.
Yeah.
Asked for payment and he says he will emt. Ok. We receive lots of payment that way.
Nice reminders sent requesting payment. The answer is no. No reason. Just no.
Two Lexus in the driveway, $800,000 house, beautiful landscape, etc etc.
Yesterday Im at a rental house, do some lawn spraying, trim up 4 trees and the guy is tatooed with a pitbull. Pays cash upfront for the work. Too easy.
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06-03-2024, 11:14 AM
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Let me know if you need Ken's cell # via PM. He'll get your $$
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06-03-2024, 11:17 AM
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I've seen this in town over the years and figured out that's why they're rich.
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06-03-2024, 11:20 AM
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Get the guy with the pitbull tattoo's do be your collection agency.
Or have a trailer load of cow manure dropped on the deadbeats driveway. Accidentally delivered to the wrong address.
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06-03-2024, 11:29 AM
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Yep. The only time I got ripped off by a customer, it was a very very wealthy lady who took over her deceased husbands business. I had worked for them for 15 years, as did the other trades. She wrung all the cash out of business and walked away owing trades probably a million bucks? I have no idea what her net worth is but 100x that at least.
I guess I made a lot of money from that company over the years but it still burned to get left hanging on $12K.
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06-03-2024, 11:30 AM
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Maybey you should make a deal with the tatooed pitbull guy.  All jokes aside thats the way its always been ,usualy the people who are not rich pay up immediately.
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06-03-2024, 11:32 AM
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That’s easy the second guy is probably selling coke and illegal smokes 🤪
He’s got money, the first place has payments.
Moral of the story only work for coke dealers.
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06-03-2024, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck
Yep. The only time I got ripped off by a customer, it was a very very wealthy lady who took over her deceased husbands business. I had worked for them for 15 years, as did the other trades. She wrung all the cash out of business and walked away owing trades probably a million bucks? I have no idea what her net worth is but 100x that at least.
I guess I made a lot of money from that company over the years but it still burned to get left hanging on $12K.
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You know my situation. I work for my son for free. It's my way to help him. So it's a loss for him 100%.
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06-03-2024, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by calgarychef
That’s easy the second guy is probably selling coke and illegal smokes 🤪
He’s got money, the first place has payments.
Moral of the story only work for coke dealers.
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You arent wrong!
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06-03-2024, 11:53 AM
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What would John Wayne do !
This is what I say to myself when anything like this comes up.
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06-03-2024, 12:05 PM
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Sounds like you’re in the weed spray business?
Just go over at night and spray the words ,I don’t pay my bills , or Thief or something to that affect ,on his lawn with some roundup
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06-03-2024, 12:07 PM
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What would John Wayne do !
This is what I say to myself when anything like this comes up.
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I go with WWWWD?
What would Walter White do?
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Huntin, you're forgettin stuff now.
I'm positive that you did not finish the job there.
He will pay when the work is done. 
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Sounds like you’re in the weed spray business?
Just go over at night and spray the words ,I don’t pay my bills , or Thief or something to that affect ,on his lawn with some roundup
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This......Like!!!
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Talking about rich guys that don't pay bills
That Honda/ Nisan dealer on yellowhead trial in Edmonton just behind that bike shop . Well we had a group of guys working there for the Yachimec group that own a lot of other car dealers ships around Edmonton.
After one week of work ,they would not pay either . I guess they have been doing that to a lot of contractors also that start working with just a hand shack.
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06-03-2024, 01:20 PM
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Huntin, you're forgettin stuff now.
I'm positive that you did not finish the job there.
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Lololol. You're probably right. I thought me just showing up was enough...he wanted me to WORK too??!! Wow. High expectations
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06-03-2024, 01:22 PM
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Time to Lien the job as long as you are in your filing period.
Make it expensive for them, that is what they understand.
Make sure you follow through with the Statement of Claim. That is what makes it more expensive for them.
Had a guy say my proposed plan of action was "cutting off my nose to spite my face".
That analogy only works if you care what others think of your appearances.
Cut off the nose, tell everyone what a jerk the face is.
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06-03-2024, 01:24 PM
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Sounds like you’re in the weed spray business?
Just go over at night and spray the words ,I don’t pay my bills , or Thief or something to that affect ,on his lawn with some roundup
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Son is an arborist. I do his rigging etc. But Im licensed to apply herbicides. Keeps me off the streets
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Spray the lawn/garden/flower beds and trees!
Call it even.
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06-03-2024, 03:36 PM
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Keeps me off the streets
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 And we are most grateful to your son! Could you imagine a world with Huntinstuff on the loose!
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06-03-2024, 03:56 PM
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Things like this really frost my banana, especially after meeting you and your son last year.
Since you already have the customer's name, phone number and likely an email address, find a photo of them online and create a GRINDR account on their behalf. Lol.
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06-03-2024, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by huntinstuff
Well, it finally happened. As usual, we quote a job, it is accepted, we do the job and payment is received at the time of completion.
I quoted a job in an upscale area in SE Edmonton and the quote was accepted by the homeowner. He was present during the work, was happy at completion as we always do a final walk about with the owner to ensure he is happy, everything is done, and we get paid.
Yeah.
Asked for payment and he says he will emt. Ok. We receive lots of payment that way.
Nice reminders sent requesting payment. The answer is no. No reason. Just no.
Two Lexus in the driveway, $800,000 house, beautiful landscape, etc etc.
Yesterday Im at a rental house, do some lawn spraying, trim up 4 trees and the guy is tatooed with a pitbull. Pays cash upfront for the work. Too easy.
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Did you ask him why he is refusing to pay?
If he has no excuse warn him about your plans to put lien on his property
And yes it's quite common for certain people in my area to drive fancy trucks and own big fancy places who will cheat and swindle. Especially if they think you are not someone anyone important cares about. Example other people who run in same social circle with them they don't seem to rip off.
I don't know how these people keep getting new people to do business with them?
Good luck
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06-03-2024, 04:16 PM
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humilate them
Park on the city street in front of the home with a 4x8 ft sign detailing the problem after placing fliers in all the neighbours mailboxes.
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06-03-2024, 05:13 PM
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Park on the city street in front of the home with a 4x8 ft sign detailing the problem after placing fliers in all the neighbours mailboxes.
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Nice...also have a couple of guys walk around the outlets to the neighborhood with sandwich boards and the address and name at both rush hours
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06-03-2024, 05:43 PM
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Threaten to make the guy a moderator on the forum. You'll get paid.
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06-03-2024, 05:50 PM
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Threaten to make the guy a moderator on the forum. You'll get paid.
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Wow. That's pretty dark man. Kinda excessive. Maybe tone it down a bit and just kidnap and sell his kids to a guy in Dubai...ya know....NORMAL stuff
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Return their trees and stuff.
Satisfaction guaranteed or double your stuff back.
Deliver all of their crap back on the driveway in the way of the fancy cars and on the lawn.
With an apology for not meeting their expectations and allowing them to see their way clear to pay for the service provided.
Write it off as bad debt on the company taxes.
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Satisfaction guaranteed or double your stuff back.
Deliver all of their crap back on the driveway in the way of the fancy cars and on the lawn.
With an apology for not meeting their expectations and allowing them to see their way clear to pay for the service provided.
Write it off as bad debt on the company taxes.
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This
Dump truck full of wood chips
Back over lawn to front door and dump
Tell them all branches and trees are in the pile, and your business will recover from not being paid, but won’t tolerate a theft charge against it.
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What does your contract say about non-payment? You do have a contract, right? If you don't, put a lien on his house and take it as a lesson to always use a contract.
Sadly, the days of handshake deals are gone. Unless you're family, I don't do business without a contract. Even certain family members have to sign on the line.
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