Can I hunt on "Grazing Lease" public land when signs say "No Hunting"?

[doof324]

The other day, I found some crown land to go shooting on so I could scope in my new rifle. I was also scoping out this location as a possible rabbit hunting location, but I noticed that at the entrance to the land, there was a "No Hunting" sign. The leaseholder conditions (as approved by the minister) are as follows:

• Please contact between 7PM and 9PM weekdays
• Please contact 3 days before accessing lease
• Please park vehicle out of gate on roadway
• Foot access permitted, without contact, from December 15 to April 1
• Written or verbal approval for ongoing access may be available
• Dogs must be on a leash at all times

There are also no recreational management plans, restrictions, prohibitions or terms .......

The home-made sign says "No Hunting", but technically, if I want to go hunt rabbits on this land next weekend, I would not be violating any rules right? If anyone has come across a situation like this before, do you mind sharing any thoughts?

[Luckybrand]

I personally always contact leaseholders before accessing leases, I know the rules and how it's interpreted by law but some people get awfully possessive of "their" leases regardless of what the laws actually state. Using a little respect and contacting leaseholders has gone a long way with me personally for building relationships with leaseholders and being able to access their leases for hunting purposes.

[CNP]

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[doof324]

I just called the leaseholder and he was adamant that we cannot hunt there. I told him that it was crown land and that he needs to provide reasonable access but he kept insisting that he didn't want us hunting there because he "didn't want anyone getting hurt". ??? I explained that we always go above and beyond regarding safety precautions so that no one (us or anyone else on the land) gets hurt.

What should I do moving forward? Hunt anyway with the printed off documents which say that I can hunt there or call the Local Land Office? Or something else?

[catnthehat]

Post #5 in this link tells you what to do
Cat

http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/showt...grazing+leases

[Deer Hunter]

Foot access permitted, without contact, from December 15 to April 1

Go on and leave it the way you found it. You're meeting the conditions. Don't make it harder on yourself or him or some govt official.

[JWCalgary]

Call the settlement officer. They will take care of it.

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[Yaha Tinda]

Part of Charlie's lease is affected by a county bylaw that prohibits shooting of anything considered a firearm(shoots over 500 fps).

[DiabeticKripple]

Just go. He cannot deny you reasonable access.

[hilt134]

I would say phone in and go. Then you excersize your right to use it and you also hopefully fix the problem.

[Slicktricker]

Seems like there's so many threads on grazing lease land for access you should be able to search hundreds of threads on this, I'd call before entering

[DJS]

Originally Posted by DiabeticKripple

Just go. He cannot deny you reasonable access.

Great advice. And people wonder why land and lease owners say no.

[DiabeticKripple]

Originally Posted by DJS

Great advice. And people wonder why land and lease owners say no.

The lease says no contact required. Courtesy would dictate giving him a phone call, but he cannot stop you from entering that lease.

[Olthreelegs]

Originally Posted by DJS

Great advice. And people wonder why land and lease owners say no.

actually it was great advice. the lease holder absolutely can not deny access unless there is livestock or crop on the lease. obviously neither would be the case now. last couple years been an increasing amount of these knucklehead lease holders trying to treat their lease land as private. when one calls the lease holder before entering lease, you are not asking for permission, you are indeed just giving them notice that you will be accessing lease. If you do not believe what i am saying call lands or fnw, simple as that.

[spellswrong]

Originally Posted by Yaha Tinda

Part of Charlie's lease is affected by a county bylaw that prohibits shooting of anything considered a firearm(shoots over 500 fps).

Im not sure if Yaha Tinda knows which lease you're talking about or what but the lease holder cannot deny you access based on safety hazards. If the lease is in an area that is bow only or if a part of the lease is too close to a home there are laws that cover those situations and they aren't up to lease holders discretion. Make sure to check the regs and google map the location to give a rough estimate if you're going to be too close to buildings there is a possibility the lease holder might just be giving you some sound advice but is overstepping their rights.

[Z7fulldraw]

Call fish and wildlife first before the lease holder. Tell them where you are planning on going and if there are any restrictions on hunting that lease cause you don't even want to bother calling the lease holder if he knows of any, of course provided none listed in regs. Then call the lease holder tell them you had called fish and wildlife inquiring about any potential restriction on the leased land he has and they said you just had to phone you ask if you have livestock in there or not first. Fish and wildlife can even provide you a number if not posted. If there is livestock, move along if not you have done your homework and due diligence i'd be very surprised if he says no. I've had a friend ask a leasee and he said no then called the following day with fish and wildlife direction and had no problem. Could tell he didn't want to but he also knew I was allowed. They can also deny in high fire hazards.

[Coulee]

Go hunting on the land. If you are deemed to trespassing and are asked to leave, then comply. The issue ends there. They do not have any legal recourse if you leave immediately, even if they are allowed to post it.