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03-21-2012, 02:06 PM
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fishing regulations question
Hi,
Just read the fishing regulations and I am still confused, just wondering if anybody could help me out.
Here is the question:
If one is allow for possessions of 10 lake white, can one catch his limit of 5 in one lake and then another 5 in another lake on the same day? or do they need to be in separate trip? Is it legal?
How does one prove that they were fished at different lakes?
Thanks.
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03-21-2012, 02:09 PM
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03-21-2012, 02:16 PM
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Doesn't matter... Posession limit is just that, what you are allowed to "posess" (as in total). Unless there is/was a lake specific regulation stating that only 5 (as an example) could be kept from a specific lake... In that case unless you had pictures, it would be based on the honor system as far as which lake they came from...
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03-21-2012, 02:20 PM
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This is answered here.....
3.When you are fishing at any lake or stream you may not have in your possession more fish than the limit, or fish other than those of legal size, listed for the lake or stream being fished.
No?
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03-21-2012, 02:33 PM
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Nope!
It's this one:
Province-wide maximum possession – All fish kept from any lake or stream, from any Watershed Unit, count as part of the province-wide maximum possession that must not be exceeded. The maximum number of fish you may have, including fish at your home and fish caught under a special harvest licence, for each game fish species or group of species is listed below:
•Trout and Arctic Grayling – 5 in total, combined of:
0 bull trout (native to Alberta);
2 Northern Dolly Varden (stocked in Chester Lake only);
1 golden trout;
2 Arctic grayling;
3 lake trout;
5 cutthroat trout;
5 rainbow trout;
5 brown trout;
5 brook trout.
•Mountain Whitefish – 5 in total.
•Walleye and Sauger – 3 in combined total.
•Northern Pike – 3 in total.
•Yellow Perch – 15 in total.
•Lake Whitefish and Cisco (Tullibee) – 10 in combined total.
•Goldeye and Mooneye – 10 in combined total.
•Burbot (Ling) – 10 in total.
•Lake Sturgeon – 0
•Non-game fish – no restriction on the numbers kept.
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03-21-2012, 02:43 PM
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There is maximum possession limits which are You also use those limits if a lake isn't listed . Good luck proving you caught those fish in another body of water , sure mos fish and wildlife officers / conservation officers were to check you or in a game check and your leaving a lake with a 5 limit and have 10 fish UH OH TROUBLE . I know this has been brought up in past and in theory you are legally able to do it but getting checked might result in a fine and a court date . My advise Send and Email to you local fish and wild life office and get it from them .
•Trout and Arctic Grayling – 5 in total, combined of:
0 bull trout (native to Alberta);
2 Northern Dolly Varden (stocked in Chester Lake only);
1 golden trout;
2 Arctic grayling;
3 lake trout;
5 cutthroat trout;
5 rainbow trout;
5 brown trout;
5 brook trout.
•Mountain Whitefish – 5 in total.
•Walleye and Sauger – 3 in combined total.
•Northern Pike – 3 in total.
•Yellow Perch – 15 in total.
•Lake Whitefish and Cisco (Tullibee) – 10 in combined total.
•Goldeye and Mooneye – 10 in combined total.
•Burbot (Ling) – 10 in total.
•Lake Sturgeon – 0
•Non-game fish – no restriction on the numbers kept.
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03-21-2012, 02:46 PM
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Let me rephrase it again.
If the total possession is 10 per person and the catch limit of lake X and lake Y is 5.
Can one fish lake X and then lake Y on the same day with the limit of 5 on each lake? So, in total, they will have in possessions of 10 fishes at the end of day.
Would photos be sufficient enough to prove that they were fishing at different lake?
Thanks
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03-21-2012, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ÜberFly
Nope!
It's this one:
Province-wide maximum possession – All fish kept from any lake or stream, from any Watershed Unit, count as part of the province-wide maximum possession that must not be exceeded. The maximum number of fish you may have, including fish at your home and fish caught under a special harvest licence, for each game fish species or group of species is listed below:
•Trout and Arctic Grayling – 5 in total, combined of:
0 bull trout (native to Alberta);
2 Northern Dolly Varden (stocked in Chester Lake only);
1 golden trout;
2 Arctic grayling;
3 lake trout;
5 cutthroat trout;
5 rainbow trout;
5 brown trout;
5 brook trout.
•Mountain Whitefish – 5 in total.
•Walleye and Sauger – 3 in combined total.
•Northern Pike – 3 in total.
•Yellow Perch – 15 in total.
•Lake Whitefish and Cisco (Tullibee) – 10 in combined total.
•Goldeye and Mooneye – 10 in combined total.
•Burbot (Ling) – 10 in total.
•Lake Sturgeon – 0
•Non-game fish – no restriction on the numbers kept.
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Originally Posted by slee
Hi,
If one is allow for possessions of 10 lake white
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Works better if you read....
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03-21-2012, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigdad013
yes
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first response, nailed it
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03-21-2012, 07:56 PM
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Did anyone else here the earth's gravity is changing due to melting of the polar ice cap? So since e=MCsq is no longer reverent does time travel seem to..........wait isn't this the quantum math forum.....?
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03-21-2012, 08:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by slee
Hi,
Just read the fishing regulations and I am still confused, just wondering if anybody could help me out.
Here is the question:
If one is allow for possessions of 10 lake white, can one catch his limit of 5 in one lake and then another 5 in another lake on the same day? or do they need to be in separate trip? I[COLOR="Yellow"]s it legal?[/COLOR]
How does one prove that they were fished at different lakes?
Thanks.
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Originally Posted by BeeGuy
first response, nailed it
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hmmmmmm I think it needed more of an answer then just YES
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03-21-2012, 08:25 PM
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I agree with Lefty-Canuck, Pelada Trochu, and Tacklerunner. The province wide limit is the one you can end your day with. But at different lakes, or even the same lake over a couple of days, when you are at the lake, your limit is restricted to the same limit of that lake.
When I do overnight fishing at the same lake, I would ask the host I'm staying with to store my 5 from the first day's catch while I'm out the second day, and pick them up on the way home. This way my province daily maximum is never exceeded. I also don't put myself in a situation where I cannot prove beyond reasonable doubt that the other 5 in my possession were not 1. Caught on a different day, 2. Caught from a different lake, 3. [Stayed] within my province wide daily allowance.
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Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck
You could switch lakes but would have to drop your 5 fish at home as they could no longer be in your immediate possesion if you wanted to split your possesion with 2 lakes that had a retention of 5 fish per lake.
Make sense?
LC
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Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck
Are you guys confusing limits for Mountain Whitefish (5) and Lake Whitefish? (10)
My point of my post was to show that if you don't want to get in trouble...
You fish lake X and catch and retain 5 fish.....assuming you have no Whitefish at all anywhere (freezer at home)....you would be in your best interests to go home and drop those 5 fish off BEFORE you go to lake Y to try for your additional allowable 5 fish....
At the end of the day, you can still catch 5 fish per lake and retain all 10....but I wouldn't want to get caught with your first 5 fish in your truck while you go over to the second lake to catch another 5.....you would have some explaining to do if the second lake you were at has a 5 daily limit....
the officer would likely believe that you caught all 10 at the single lake and therefore he would assume you are over your daily limit for that water body.
It would be like going to Battle Lake and catching 2 legal pike (63cm or bigger)....and then going to Pigeon to catch your additional 1 fish (100cm or bigger)....if you got caught at Pigeon with those first 2 pike....you would likely be in trouble. Not only would you be over your 1 fish limit but likely the 2 you caught at battle would not be 100cm....so you would get dinged for over limit AND undersized fish....
Make sense?
LC
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Originally Posted by pelada trochu
in all cases use common sense.
it says including those at home. so common sense is that your daily limit should not exceed the lakes catch limit. otherwise we all get to put 5 in the livewells and kill another five and stick them on ice in the cooler on the boat while on the lake and just say we caught the first five at another lake.
its a plausible situation. but one for which i expect a fine and probably a visit back to the house to check my freezer.
the law should state that the daily catch limit should not exceed the lake limit where you are at.
so 5 fully frozen ones in the camper and 5 in the boat would seem okay.
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Originally Posted by tacklerunner
That's correct. When you are in the "act of fishing" you cannot have in your possession more than the limit for that lake. But if your truck is on shore you can have fish in it from another lake AND limit out on the lake as long as it's not over the total possession limit. If you are on hardwater and your truck is on the ice beside you, you cannot do as above. Therein lies the grey area. What's to say in open water you didn't already put your limit from lake X in the cooler in your vehicle on shore and went back out for another daily limit claiming the ones in the truck are from lake Y?
Bottom line is follow the rules, be honest & who really needs 2 daily limits in the same day. Gives you an excuse to get out again. They make these rules so people don't stockpile for black market sale like the illegal trafficking thread.
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Mine is so secret I don't even fish there lest someone spots me, I'm content just knowing about my secret spot.
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03-22-2012, 08:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ogre
I agree with Lefty-Canuck, Pelada Trochu, and Tacklerunner. The province wide limit is the one you can end your day with. But at different lakes, or even the same lake over a couple of days, when you are at the lake, your limit is restricted to the same limit of that lake.
When I do overnight fishing at the same lake, I would ask the host I'm staying with to store my 5 from the first day's catch while I'm out the second day, and pick them up on the way home. This way my province daily maximum is never exceeded. I also don't put myself in a situation where I cannot prove beyond reasonable doubt that the other 5 in my possession were not 1. Caught on a different day, 2. Caught from a different lake, 3. [Stayed] within my province wide daily allowance.
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Possession: A fish is considered retained (kept) when it is not immediately returned to the waters from which it was taken.
If the fish you catch is of a legal species and legal size, immediately decide to release or keep it as part of your day’s limit. Fish kept on a stringer or a live well are considered retained and are part of your limit. (See releasing live or prohibited fish.)
Before fishing in any lake or stream you must locate, within this guide, the Fish Management Zone and Watershed Unit in which it is found. Determine whether or not the lake or stream is listed under the “Lake and Stream Listings” section (see instructions under “Site-Specific Regulations” for each Watershed Unit.)
1 The number of fish you are allowed to keep while fishing in one day is equal to the limit listed for each species or group of species at the lake or stream being fished, including any fish eaten or given away that day.
2 When you are fishing at any lake or stream you may not have in your possession more fish than the limit, or fish other than those of legal size, listed for the lake or stream being fished.
3 The number of fish of each species you may possess at the end of a fishing trip, regardless of the number of days fished, is equal to a 1 day limit for the water body fished, including fish stored at home.
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03-21-2012, 08:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by slee
Hi,
Just read the fishing regulations and I am still confused, just wondering if anybody could help me out.
Here is the question:
If one is allow for possessions of 10 lake white, can one catch his limit of 5 in one lake and then another 5 in another lake on the same day? or do they need to be in separate trip? Is it legal?
How does one prove that they were fished at different lakes?
Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Bigdad013
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Post #1 and #2 would have saved alot of drama. LOL
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03-21-2012, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Alberta Bigbore
Post #1 and #2 would have saved alot of drama. LOL
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Yah but 2 post threads are really boring.....
LC
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03-21-2012, 10:54 PM
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Yes you can 10 is the limit(total in your house too) .. does any zone have a 5 Lake Whitefish limit?
you can catch one per lake if you are fast Gregg/Cache/Graveyard/Blue/Jarvis
then do it in the afternoon again
Food for Thought
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03-22-2012, 02:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Speckle55
Yes you can 10 is the limit(total in your house too) .. does any zone have a 5 Lake Whitefish limit?
you can catch one per lake if you are fast Gregg/Cache/Graveyard/Blue/Jarvis
then do it in the afternoon again
Food for Thought
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If I am reading your post right, and
If the daily limit is one whitefish per day, you cannot do what you propose which is fish the lake in the morning and keep one then take home and come back and keep another one.
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03-22-2012, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by JohninAB
If I am reading your post right, and
If the daily limit is one whitefish per day, you cannot do what you propose which is fish the lake in the morning and keep one then take home and come back and keep another one.
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X2..For Example..the Gull Lake limit is 3 in the new regs, you cannot catch 2 each time and return 5 times in one day....once you have your 3 for that day you are done till the next day.
BUT technically you could go to Gull in the morning and catch your 3....then drive to Buck to catch your other 7....
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Originally Posted by JohninAB
If I am reading your post right, and
If the daily limit is one whitefish per day, you cannot do what you propose which is fish the lake in the morning and keep one then take home and come back and keep another one.
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Those lakes are side by side and each has a 10 lake Whitefish limit so you could go to each lake and catch one then go to the other and so on ..until you hit your 10 Whitefish limit
if the lakes limit is 3 then go catch your 3 and go to another lake with a 5 limit and catch 2 more then go to a lake with a 10 limit and catch another 5 and go home.. Its elementary my dear Watson
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03-23-2012, 09:48 PM
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first response, nailed it
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Not correct. Rule 3 says no.
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03-24-2012, 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by keeks
Not correct. Rule 3 says no.
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Rule 3 does not apply because as stated by the OP, he would be fishing 2 different lakes.
Rule 3 applies when you are fishing a single water body for multiple days.
So yes, afaik, the first response was correct.
Of course I could be mistaken.
I can't believe that this thread is still going on. It is a testament to the poor working and organization of the reg's themselves.
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03-25-2012, 12:53 AM
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rule 3
rule 3 general regs. says it all. Read #3 carefullly verry carrrefulllllly
General regs are the 1st rule
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03-21-2012, 03:54 PM
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Answer .
Here is the official word from Fish and Wildlife .
Hello Fish and Wildlife Officer .
I have a question for you as a fishing / hunting group I belong to were trying to get clarification on the topic .
So the question is .
If a person was to go fish at Lake so and so , Limit is 5 white fish and then he calls it a day there as he then heads to another lake with the limit of 10 whitefish , With the current provincial possession limit he is only allowed to keep 10 or can keep 15 ?
I think he or she can only keep 10 is this so ?
I just want to get the right answer from the fine people who police and protect our waters .
See you this spring .
John .
ANSWER
Hello John,
You can only have 10 Lake Whitefish and Cisco combined in your possession (pg 18) . So yes, you can catch 5 in a lake that has a specific set limit of 5, then go to another lake and catch additional 5 fish, up to the Province Wide Maximum limit of 10. Just beware that you will be questioned by the local Officer if checked in the field. Remember 10 is the Province wide Maximum Possession limit, so tell your friends they must be aware of each specific lake limits. For example Wabamun is zero limit.
If you need further info please feel free to call me.
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03-21-2012, 04:02 PM
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This;
Quote:
Originally Posted by billie
This is answered here.....
3.When you are fishing at any lake or stream you may not have in your possession more fish than the limit, or fish other than those of legal size, listed for the lake or stream being fished.
No?
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+this;
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Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck
You could switch lakes but would have to drop your 5 fish at home as they could no longer be in your immediate possesion if you wanted to split your possesion with 2 lakes that had a retention of 5 fish per lake.
Make sense?
LC
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is the answer to the question. It was not asked to exceed the 10 provincial maximum limit.
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