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Another proud RCMP moment
Lac La Biche RCMP officer pleads guilty to 'appalling' assault
Incident caught on video
By Alexandra Zabjek, edmontonjournal.com November 27, 2010
A frame from video of a beating in the RCMPcell block in Lac La Biche
Photograph by: supplied, edmontonjournal.com
EDMONTON — An RCMP officer who beat a man in custody at the Lac La Biche RCMP detachment last year has pleaded guilty to assault in provincial court where a video of the incident was shown.
The video shows Const. Desmond Sandboe lunging across a hallway toward Andrew Clyburn after the man appears to say something to the officer. Clyburn is smashed against a wall, taken to the ground and punched repeatedly in an assault that lasts approximately 40 seconds and leaves the floor smeared with fluid.
“The RCMP finds this incident appalling. The public trusts the RCMP to care for them in our custody, and we take that responsibility very seriously,” said Supt. Joe Loran, acting commanding officer for the RCMP’s K-Division, in a statement.
Court on Friday heard RCMP officers were called to the Almac bar in Lac La Biche around 3 a.m. on Sept. 13, 2009, to deal with Clyburn, who had been in a fight and was causing problems for staff.
When RCMP arrived, they found Clyburn intoxicated and bleeding from injuries. He was arrested for public intoxication.
Court heard officers took Clyburn to a local hospital. Nurses met the group at the RCMP cruiser but said they would not treat Clyburn because he was belligerent and was smashing his head inside the car. Nurses noted a cut to the back of his head, along with other injuries.
Clyburn was taken to the local RCMP detachment around 3:15 a.m. and put into a cell. Around 7:15 a.m. Clyburn was taken out of his cell and escorted into a hallway area. Sandboe had just started his shift.
The video shows Clyburn, who is not wearing shoes, getting ready to put on a sweatshirt when the assault occurs. Clyburn appears to say something to the officer, although there is no audio in the recording. That’s when the officer lunges at Clyburn from across the hallway, smashing him twice against the wall and punching him repeatedly as he takes Clyburn to the ground.
The officer continues to punch Clyburn, while the man raises his hands to protect his face. He punches Clyburn at least 10 times, while the pair struggle and move along the ground of the hallway.
The assault lasts approximately 40 seconds and two other officers can be seen watching the incident. The video then shows Clyburn being hauled to his feet and taken back down the hallway. The video shows the previously clean floor smeared with fluid.
The case is scheduled to be back in court Jan. 27, 2011, when the defence is expected to present more facts related to the case. A pre-sentence report has been ordered.
Sandboe, a nine-year veteran of the RCMP, has been suspended without pay, a disciplinary action reserved for the most serious of conduct matters.
“Const. Sandboe’s conduct has violated the public’s trust. He has also done a great disservice to the men and women of the RCMP who daily meet and exceed the public’s expectations and who uphold our values,” said Loran, the acting commanding officer.
Sandboe was initially charged with assault causing bodily harm when the charges were announced in 2009 by the Alberta Serious Incident Response Team, which investigates actions of police in cases that result in death or injury. The charge resulted from the ASIRT investigation.
The RCMP is also conducting a code of conduct investigation, which will be completed after the case goes through the court system and could result in Sandboe’s dismissal.
Lac La Biche is about 200 kilometres northeast of Edmonton.
azabjek@edmontonjournal.com
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not that it should make ANY difference at all
but i kinda want to know what the kid said to set him off.
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01-21-2011, 08:33 AM
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I am wondering about this fluid, did the guy shart?
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01-21-2011, 09:13 AM
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I am wondering about this fluid, did the guy shart?
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Usually they would say "smeared with blood." I'm thinking perhaps a mixture of blood,shart,and urine! I think that could be called an RCMP cocktail. LOL!
Whatever he said sure got him noticed and is the perfect example of a guy who was talking when he should have been listening!
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01-21-2011, 09:29 AM
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not that it should make ANY difference at all
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i kinda want to know what the kid said to set him off.
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I remember an interview from awhile back, the cop was mispronouncing his last name and he corrected him.
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Updated: Sat Nov. 27 2010 16:27:29
Nahreman Issa, ctvedmonton.ca
A man whose beating was caught on jail surveillance cameras says he did nothing to provoke the beating he took at the hands of an RCMP officer.
Andrew Clyburn spoke with CTV news on Saturday; also watching for the first time video of him being attacked.
That incident took place on Sept. 13 of last year at the Lac La Biche RCMP Detachment. Clyburn admits he was drunk and had been involved in a bar fight that night, landing him in police custody.
In the video, you can see Clyburn being escorted down the hallway of the detachment. It then showed Cst. Desmond Sandboe lunge at him. He falls to the ground defenceless and Sandboe is shown repeatedly striking blow after blow.
"He got my last name wrong," says Clyburn. "I corrected it and he just lost it."
Clyburn claims he suffered a broken nose, that the back of his head was cut open and is now a visible scar. But he says what happened after the attack was downright cruel.
"I had to mop up all of my blood before they would let me leave," said Clyburn.
As for Sandboe, he pleaded guilty to common assault in an Edmonton court room on Friday. The nine year veteran didn't want to speak to CTV cameras. He'll be sentenced in January.
The RCMP isn't saying if Sandboe will lose his job or not. But Alberta's Acting Commander acknowledges the damage the video does to the force.
"We rely on the public's trust to do our jobs," said Supt. Joe Loran. "Obviously in this case, this member has violated the public's trust."
Clyburn says he's also considering civil action, claiming Sandboe and the RCMP should pay for the physical damage he suffered while in their custody. CTV tried speaking with Sandboe's lawyer, Rod Gregory, but he reserved comment. When asked if his client was provoked by the victim in any way before the attack, Gregory said that it will all eventually come out in court.
Clyburn believes someone who would do something like this doesn't deserve a badge and gun.
"He'll get what he deserves in the end."
http://edmonton.ctv.ca/servlet/an/lo...b=EdmontonHome
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I just wastched the video utterly disgusting, and they wonder why people have no respect for the rcmp. The guys just standing there should be charged also. The rcmp has become an utter disgrace.
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He used to be stationed in Whitecourt, met him a few times, seemed to me to be one of those gung ho type officers. I also watched the video, and am curious if anything is happening to the other officer who just stood there and watched the whole thing happen. Seems to me he should have jumped in and did something.
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Yup another proud RCMP moment. Makes me just want to go out and shake an officers hand and tell him how much I respect him and his kind. Never had a problem in the past but I'm inclined to carry a video camera everywhere I go now. Even routine road stops are becoming a carry on your way or get out of the car so I can smash your face in situation.
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I just wastched the video utterly disgusting, and they wonder why people have no respect for the rcmp. The guys just standing there should be charged also. The rcmp has become an utter disgrace.
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That Video was disturbing.
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I wonder why we have a rash of these incidents now. For years and years the RCMP were the epitome of honorable law enforcement. Now suddenly they run off the rails??? Very disturbing,
Unless this kind of thing has been going on all along and now due to all the cameras at large these incidents are seeing the light of day. No tell me that isn't the case. Please.
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I remember an interview from awhile back, the cop was mispronouncing his last name and he corrected him.
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I dont doubt this....i would like to know HOW he corrected him though.
Something tells me the safe bet is he didnt just "correct" him. It was almost 100% Clyburns mouth that started the bar fight in the first place and it was definiently 100% his mouth that hampered him getting medical attention.
Be silly not to think he verbally assaulted the officer and lit the fuse.
Again im not justifying the beatdown. Just hard to imagine a long time officer blowing up over something as simple as being corrected on pronouncing a name. I dont buy it.
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but i kinda want to know what the kid said to set him off
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(if it was a case of disrespect)
Thats what some of those mouthy punks need. I bet he'll think twice before he hurls another insult at an RCMP officer.
Too bad the officer got caught on video.
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Too bad the officer got caught on video.
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Thats absolutely the dumbest thing I have ever heard.
Standing up for people in authority positions - abusing the powers we give them?
Police officers should be held to a higher standard.
Thats like saying its okay for a Fish Cop to poach as long as he doesn't get caught.
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Thats what some of those mouthy punks need. I bet he'll think twice before he hurls another insult at an RCMP officer.
Too bad the officer got caught on video.
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unbelieveable......
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(if it was a case of disrespect)
Thats what some of those mouthy punks need. I bet he'll think twice before he hurls another insult at an RCMP officer.
Too bad the officer got caught on video.
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01-21-2011, 10:18 PM
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(if it was a case of disrespect)
Thats what some of those mouthy punks need. I bet he'll think twice before he hurls another insult at an RCMP officer.
Too bad the officer got caught on video.
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I can't wait for this law to pass. Anyone mouths off in this country deserves the smack down. Drives me crazy not being able to legally beat the life out of some clown that gives me the finger on the Yellowhead. sarc/off
The MOST disturbing thing....the "cops" that stood there and allowed this to go on. They should be fired as well.
If you're skin is sooo thin that you react like this to the slightest of provocation you should definitely not be interacting with the public....let alone be a cop. Hope the victim gets a huge settlement, and I would like to see it come from the cops personal coffers (I know it won't happen). And yes I'm sure he's a huge douche, still no justification for getting a beating laid on him by a "cop".
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I watched the video as well and what I saw was an act of cowardice by a person in a position of authority. The Officer waited for the opportune moment to sucker punch the prisoner and subsequently lay a beating on him. ![Mad3](images/smilies/mad0137.gif) I have no time for cowards let alone a coward who is someone that is supposed to be the example of how people are supposed to behave.
Regardless of what the prisoner said the Officer over-reacted to say the least. It was a criminal act and I hope that his superiors feed him to the lions and the prisoner cleans him out financially.
If the RCMP wants to improve their image in the public's eyes it's time to start getting tough on these thugs in uniform and stop protecting them under an "old boys" code. This Officer is the perfect individual to make an example out of and set the standard for everyone. FIRE HIM! Anything less will be viewed as a slap on the wrist.
I still think that the RCMP is, as a whole, is very professional and their image is being soiled by a few bad apples. TIME TO CLEAN HOUSE RCMP!
As a side note, it looks to me like the Officer might be on the "juice", another controlled substance that is illegal.
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You have my vote, well said.
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What was Cst. Sandboe thinking? He surely knew there was video surveilence in the detachment hallway. It just doesn't make any sense, or are some of these guys so brazen that they think they can get away with it. I'm thinking he was on the "juice" too. Also, I'll bet that this Clyburn guy said something ignorant. I'm not saying it was right but he probably deserved the attitude adjustment.
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...is very professional and their image is being soiled by a few bad apples. TIME TO CLEAN HOUSE RCMP!
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maybe it is their way of cleaning house...
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Somehow we've all got to realize that there are some really great people in the force, that they are hogtied by a non-functional system that crucifies them when they try to deal with some of this garbage internally for being troublemakers. FWIW- I think that is the #1 issue behind alot of this.
It doesn't just exist in this enforcement agency either, DFO and SRD have the same sorts of issues. Perhaps a look into the basic training in Regina might be appropriate. Maybe check into a common sense course instead of the computer generated images of crooks pulling guns on the recruits without any provocation. By the time some of these boys leave Regina, they have it drilled into their head that everybody they deal with potentially wants to kill them.
Before Mayerthorpe et al gets thrown up at me, do you really think that those four boys might have had a better chance by going in guns drawn? That's a very unfortunate situation that I think might only have been dealt with by trying to reason. Makes a man wonder whether or not that guy might have been through a "Sandboe" situation and decided he wouldn't go through it again.
Just my own thoughts.
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