Should there be Laker tags at Cold lake for 2020

[-JR-]

I think its time they release some tags for 65cm and larger Lakers at Cold lake .
But at the same time keep it general for all to catch one 75 cm Laker.
I do believe with all the money raised ,that it should go back in making bigger dock and of course a covered in fish cleaning station

[Kurt505]

I don’t agree with “fish for prophet”, it sets a scary precedence.

Keeping 75cm plus seems like a brain dead compromise imo, killing the big breeders. A limit of one 45-55 would be nice though.

[35 whelen]

Originally Posted by Kurt505

I don’t agree with “fish for prophet”, it sets a scary precedence.



Keeping 75cm plus seems like a brain dead compromise imo, killing the big breeders. A limit of one 45-55 would be nice though.

Exactly keep a smaller one let the bigger ones grow

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[pikeman06]

Originally Posted by 35 whelen

Exactly keep a smaller one let the bigger ones grow

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What are you talking about? This is alberta fishery management bud, we don't roll like that...kill your breeders to the point of no return then shut it right down a few years too late and throw a million new predators in to really mess things up then sell tags and claim that's how ya rebuild a fishery when they are the ones that wrecked it to begin with. Sure I'll buy a tag and throw it in the garbage to save a potential breeder. Then go to pierce and catch a couple nice 3 lb trout and eat them. Not filter thru 30 of them trying to get a keeper.

[Kurt505]

Originally Posted by pikeman06

What are you talking about? This is alberta fishery management bud, we don't roll like that...kill your breeders to the point of no return then shut it right down a few years too late and throw a million new predators in to really mess things up then sell tags and claim that's how ya rebuild a fishery when they are the ones that wrecked it to begin with. Sure I'll buy a tag and throw it in the garbage to save a potential breeder. Then go to pierce and catch a couple nice 3 lb trout and eat them. Not filter thru 30 of them trying to get a keeper.

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[-JR-]

The big lakers are disappearing because of all the netting that is going on at cold lake . If the native are allowed to keep any size i think there should be one tag given not 3 like a walleye
I also still think the money raised threw tags must go to the lake they were given to and to be used for more boat launches or bigger docks so you can tie your boat to till you load up . gets very crowed when the wind picks up.
i think we would all be in favour of a indoor fish cleaning station like you see in Sask.

[wind drift]

Originally Posted by pikeman06

What are you talking about? This is alberta fishery management bud, we don't roll like that...kill your breeders to the point of no return then shut it right down a few years too late and throw a million new predators in to really mess things up then sell tags and claim that's how ya rebuild a fishery when they are the ones that wrecked it to begin with. Sure I'll buy a tag and throw it in the garbage to save a potential breeder. Then go to pierce and catch a couple nice 3 lb trout and eat them. Not filter thru 30 of them trying to get a keeper.

Actually, any lake trout in Cold Lake over 60cm is a potential “breeder”, and the minimum size limits protect the majority of “breeders” and their eggs because in any normal population there are many more young adults than old adults, due to effects of cumulative mortality. Killing the kids and teenagers doesn’t make more large fish, or more fish of any size. If you don’t want to kill an old trout, you don’t have to, but don’t kill the young ones.

I think some folks might not remember how bad it was at Cold Lake in the 80s and 90s when there were damn few lake trout left. The campgrounds were half empty. There was no guiding industry, like today. This fishery we have now is remarkable compared to back then. So, ya, it has been rebuilt here.

[RavYak]

Originally Posted by wind drift

Actually, any lake trout in Cold Lake over 60cm is a potential “breeder”, and the minimum size limits protect the majority of “breeders” and their eggs because in any normal population there are many more young adults than old adults, due to effects of cumulative mortality. Killing the kids and teenagers doesn’t make more large fish, or more fish of any size. If you don’t want to kill an old trout, you don’t have to, but don’t kill the young ones.

I think some folks might not remember how bad it was at Cold Lake in the 80s and 90s when there were damn few lake trout left. The campgrounds were half empty. There was no guiding industry, like today. This fishery we have now is remarkable compared to back then. So, ya, it has been rebuilt here.

The regs that wrecked Cold Lake were far more liberal than what anyone here is proposing. Heck the regs that rebuilt Cold are more liberal then some of the ones being proposed...

Your thinking is flawed because it assumes every kid/teenager is killed. Regs that protect a larger fish population do grow larger fish as long as the regs are such to allow some fish to live into that protected size. The lakers in Cold grow to maturity fairly quickly then they plateau, the current overwhelming population of breeder size fish is not required to sustain the population.

You talk about fishing quality but you also fail to understand that many if not most anglers would rather go fishing and only catch a few fish but be able to keep one or two of them rather that be able to catch 50 and have to throw them all back.

[Smoky buck]

Originally Posted by Kurt505

I don’t agree with “fish for prophet”, it sets a scary precedence.

Keeping 75cm plus seems like a brain dead compromise imo, killing the big breeders. A limit of one 45-55 would be nice though.

Expecially on a slow growing species like lake trout

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by Kurt505

I don’t agree with “fish for prophet”, it sets a scary precedence.

Keeping 75cm plus seems like a brain dead compromise imo, killing the big breeders. A limit of one 45-55 would be nice though.

Agree just luv to have one to throw on the BBQ.....maybe next season things might change....if not it's still an amazing time out on the water when you can catch so many species on that lake....and now it's freakin' peaceful too

[Bhflyfisher]

Changing the slot to one under or one between 50cm-60cm would be better. Even a draw with limited numbers of tags at no cost would benefit the fishery. No need to turn it into a "profit". Be nice to see things for once just be focused on improving population structure and the health of the lake.

[Kurt505]

Originally Posted by Kurt505

I don’t agree with “fish for prophet”, it sets a scary precedence.

Keeping 75cm plus seems like a brain dead compromise imo, killing the big breeders. A limit of one 45-55 would be nice though.

Fish for prophet.... bahaha!

I guess I’m hoping for a miracle

[RavYak]

I think a slot limit 1 fish 63 to 70 cm(25-27.5 in) would work but would be fine with tags. I am opposed to adding tags for smaller fish and also leaving the current regs in place, I want to catch big lakers and you can barely do that even with current regs. I have no interest in eating these grease bags, I would rather go catch a pike and eat a 10 times better fish instead.

[CBintheNorth]

Originally Posted by RavYak

I think a slot limit 1 fish 63 to 70 cm(25-27.5 in) would work but would be fine with tags. I am opposed to adding tags for smaller fish and also leaving the current regs in place, I want to catch big lakers and you can barely do that even with current regs. I have no interest in eating these grease bags, I would rather go catch a pike and eat a 10 times better fish instead.

Pretty well this.

2 or 3 tags for 65 - 75 cm. That's it. Above and below gets let go.
There would be way less people weeding through hundreds, if not thousands of fish trying to find a keeper.
Pressure goes down, quantities harvested actually get controlled, fish get to breed at least once, big proven spawners live a long productive life, trophy quality goes up, a few fish get taken home , etc. etc..
I was speaking to a fisheries biologist and their fear was that if they allowed a slot limit harvest (only 65-75 can be kept) that with the pressure the lake sees, there'd be too few fish make it through the slot to sustain the population. I think they're right.
Tags would work well though, if allotted properly.

[CptnBlues63]

Originally Posted by -JR-

I think its time they release some tags for 65cm and larger Lakers at Cold lake .
But at the same time keep it general for all to catch one 75 cm Laker.
I do believe with all the money raised ,that it should go back in making bigger dock and of course a covered in fish cleaning station

Boat launch fee's.......something like $5 per launch and/or a day/month/yearly fee.......are an effective way of providing $$$ for improving boat launch and docks. You could also put it toward cleaning stations.

I'm not sure why this hasn't caught on in AB but quite a few places do it in SK and the ones that do have awesome boat launches compared to the crap we put up with here.

I haven't gone after lake trout in a long time......none near where I live and when I go on a fishing trip, I go after walleye. But for you lake trout enthusiasts, you need to check out Lake Pend Oreille in North Idaho.

Not only are there no limits of any kind on lake trout, you can get a $15 bounty for each lake trout head you bring in. Or at least, you could last June.