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01-13-2019, 10:47 PM
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landowner tags
Ok, I don't want to start any arguments as I got a month off last time. All I want to know is if anyone has sent an email to ESRD to see if in fact landowner tags are going to be a thing of the past. I sent emails with no replies.
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01-13-2019, 11:07 PM
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I feel like there will be fewer spontaneous months off now.
Just a hunch.
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01-13-2019, 11:10 PM
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I own some land and I hope landowner cow elk stays.
I really see no reason for land owner antlered Mulie tho.
It’s an unfair advantage to the waiting lists and the Mulie tag#’s.
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01-13-2019, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by TBark
I own some land and I hope landowner cow elk stays.
I really see no reason for land owner antlered Mulie tho.
It’s an unfair advantage to the waiting lists and the Mulie tag#’s.
TBark
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Agreed
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01-14-2019, 12:34 AM
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Here we go again...
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01-14-2019, 05:50 AM
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Should be issued to those who prove that they are loosing crops etc to wildlife.
In some cases just watch as the sun sets and a 100 whitetail filter out of the brush to the grain....
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01-14-2019, 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by crazy_davey
Here we go again...
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Exactly .. there seems to be 2 major themes on AO lately .. lets bash outfitters and #2 dump landowner tags ..
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01-14-2019, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by H380
Exactly .. there seems to be 2 major themes on AO lately .. lets bash outfitters and #2 dump landowner tags ..
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Would you rather talk about the 6.5 creedmoor or a topic that actually matters?
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01-14-2019, 07:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TBark
I own some land and I hope landowner cow elk stays.
I really see no reason for land owner antlered Mulie tho.
It’s an unfair advantage to the waiting lists and the Mulie tag#’s.
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Funny
I own land and hope the exact opposite...if I owned land in Fort Sask like you I would probably agree with you
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01-14-2019, 07:32 PM
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Landowner licenses work in places like Colorado and New Mexico? Why not here?
If you want your draw chances to be higher, buy some land or buy a tag from the farmer or wait a few years and hunt the public/crown land. I’m not really sure why people think they should be entitled to the same opportunity when they have zero invested in the land.
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01-14-2019, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by marky_mark
Landowner licenses work in places like Colorado and New Mexico? Why not here?
If you want your draw chances to be higher, buy some land or buy a tag from the farmer or wait a few years and hunt the public/crown land. I’m not really sure why people think they should be entitled to the same opportunity when they have zero invested in the land.
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Scary mindset, really scary.
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01-14-2019, 07:39 PM
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Scary mindset, really scary.
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You people don’t know how good it is here. And you whine about more.
I’d rather deal with more non residents than more entitled truck hunters from the city
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01-14-2019, 07:47 PM
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I'm torn on this subject because i've seen the good and the bad of it. I know landowners that use it as its intended. I also know others that close off all access because their family has 5 landowner tags and all want to hunt. My personal opinion is they should be capped at a percentage per WMU. Its a first come basis and once gone its gone for the year. They did this with WMU 300 bull elk tags and it seemed to work. 10% would be a number I would look at. My issue with shooting a buck every year is that as a land owner your not doing anything to reduce numbers of damage to your crops like the tag is intended. If your shooting bucks then obviously what you let go to wildlife each year really doesn't bother you. Shoot a doe, you actually affect deer numbers on your place. I would think that even with no landowner tags landowners would still let people on that want some deer numbers knocked back. If nothing changes it wouldn't bother me at all, I think there are others areas of wildlife management that could be adjusted better like unlimited harvests of some.
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01-14-2019, 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by huntwat
Ok, I don't want to start any arguments as I got a month off last time. All I want to know is if anyone has sent an email to ESRD to see if in fact landowner tags are going to be a thing of the past. I sent emails with no replies.
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If you received no replies, why would you think that anyone else would have received replies?
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01-14-2019, 07:31 AM
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In my opinion the landowner tags should stay due to the fact that A: deer and elk are hard on hay stacks if it’s a tough winter and B: as a grazing lease holder and deeded land owner, we put up with every Tom, Dyck and Harry that wants to hunt, drive all over the place, leave their butt wipe blowing around in the wind and what ever else garbage people leave around. It’s a shame that a few ruin in for everybody else and who’s left to clean everything up... yeah you guessed it. So there’s my two cents for keeping landowner tags
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01-14-2019, 08:01 AM
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I've been worrying about this too because if these tags are eliminated it will guarantee that there will be fewer places for the city folks to hunt.
Be careful what you wish for boys and girls.
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01-14-2019, 08:27 AM
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I don’t mind landowner tags in certain areas. But outfitters tags for draw species should be eradicated 100%.
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01-14-2019, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Snap Shot
I don’t mind landowner tags in certain areas. But outfitters tags for draw species should be eradicated 100%.
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Excellent idea !
You’ll fit right in with the NDP eliminating industry with every bound 🙁
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01-14-2019, 09:33 AM
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If there is a chance of landowner tags going away I better try for a landowner tag for moose this year....
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01-14-2019, 06:38 PM
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Excellent idea !
You’ll fit right in with the NDP eliminating industry with every bound 🙁
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Lmao.!! Industry my arse... yea it’s a real boomer to the economy. Go blow smoke somewhere else. It’s a crock taking away from resident draw times.
Go get a real job to the ones that live solely off of 3 months of work.
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01-14-2019, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Snap Shot
I don’t mind landowner tags in certain areas. But outfitters tags for draw species should be eradicated 100%.
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I hope you are joking... reduced in some areas sure... eliminated he’ll no, this is someone livelihood we are talking about and an excellent component of our tourism and outdoor industry
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01-14-2019, 10:11 AM
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Landowner tags are open to everyone.
So, obviously if you dont want to go to the trouble of meeting the requirements, lobby the government to take them away from everyone else.
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01-14-2019, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by 270WIN
I've been worrying about this too because if these tags are eliminated it will guarantee that there will be fewer places for the city folks to hunt.
Be careful what you wish for boys and girls.
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Except, there are many, many landowners with tags that never allow access. Your argument is moot. But common.
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01-14-2019, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by 270WIN
I've been worrying about this too because if these tags are eliminated it will guarantee that there will be fewer places for the city folks to hunt.
Be careful what you wish for boys and girls.
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Not a chance. Any landowner applying for a mule deer tag, not receiving it, then getting a landowners tag is not letting you hunt on their land anyway.
Maybe there’s a few that will, but I’ve never ran into any. The ones I know exercising this option have their land locked up tight, and so they should if they choose to, it’s their land !
95% of the farmers that let us hunt on their land don’t hunt, and the ones that do aren’t hunting for racks or waiting in any draws.
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01-14-2019, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Torkdiesel
Not a chance. Any landowner applying for a mule deer tag, not receiving it, then getting a landowners tag is not letting you hunt on their land anyway.
Maybe there’s a few that will, but I’ve never ran into any. The ones I know exercising this option have their land locked up tight, and so they should if they choose to, it’s their land !
95% of the farmers that let us hunt on their land don’t hunt, and the ones that do aren’t hunting for racks or waiting in any draws.
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Actually when I said "city folks" I was thinking of resident hunters looking for access just for themselves, or maybe to take one of their kids hunting, and not outfitters trying to get permission for their clients. There are landowners out there who are willing to grant permission to members of the former group but not the latter.
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01-14-2019, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 270WIN
Actually when I said "city folks" I was thinking of resident hunters looking for access just for themselves, or maybe to take one of their kids hunting, and not outfitters trying to get permission for their clients. There are landowners out there who are willing to grant permission to members of the former group but not the latter.
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I was talking about my family hunting in Alberta, I don’t outfit in this province anymore.
This comment had nothing to do with outfitting
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01-14-2019, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Torkdiesel
Not a chance. Any landowner applying for a mule deer tag, not receiving it, then getting a landowners tag is not letting you hunt on their land anyway.
Maybe there’s a few that will, but I’ve never ran into any. The ones I know exercising this option have their land locked up tight, and so they should if they choose to, it’s their land !
95% of the farmers that let us hunt on their land don’t hunt, and the ones that do aren’t hunting for racks or waiting in any draws.
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I do. Nine different guys/gals this year, including the kids on the ACA Mentorship program. Also some fellas who didn't bother to ask. I've taken the landowner tag almost every year. Filled two of them, including this year.
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