16 foot boat engine size

[Dezso]

Purchased a new boat from a local dealership.
16’x93” with 60HP outbound.
Yesterday after 2hr taking it home we hit Wabamun.
4 person (2 young adults, 2 adults not overweight) we can’t get it up on plain, not my first boat and fished with lots of friends with 16’ 50-60HP their boat with 4 person got up on plain just fine even if toke a bit longer 10-15s
Toke it back to the dealership today morning and one of the first things I got is I have to much expectation or need a bigger engine.
A 16’ with 60HP 4 person will never go up on plain they say.
Anyone can back me up or I’m screwed ☹️
What can I do, how to resolve it, what legal right I have ?
Thanks

Dezso

[elkhunter11]

Get a prop with a lower pitch. It will reduce top speed a bit with one or two people, but it will plane. That being said, I went with a 75 on my 16' Lund, because I like to go with the largest engine the boat is rated for.

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

Get a prop with a lower pitch. It will reduce top speed a bit with one or two people, but it will plane. That being said, I went with a 75 on my 16' Lund, because I like to go with the largest engine the boat is rated for.

Yup.....

[nick0danger]

Did you properly break in the motor?

[Dean2]

This is really not that complicated. Boat sticker will have a max horsepower rating. It will also have a maximum capacity sticker on it, what is that number. Take the weight of the motor, fuel, accessories and people and add them up What does that add up to. Now, how much does your bare hull weigh. What is the maximum rated horsepower. What pitch prop, how many blades, stainless or aluminium on what make of motor. Two stroke or 4. Make of boat, hull style, glass or Aluminum.

Four people at 150 each is 600 pounds. Most 60 horse four strokes will weigh in a min of 250 pounds then 5 pounds per gallon of gas. Doesn't take long to hit a 1000 lbs.

With that information I can tell you if the boat will plane with the motor that is on it. Without that info we would all just be guessing.

[Dezso]

Smoker Craft 162 Pro Angler XL
Yamaha 4 stroke fuel injected.
Engine and boat new (engine now have 1HR)
Adding our weight together 679lb

[nick0danger]

Originally Posted by Dezso

Smoker Craft 162 Pro Angler XL
Yamaha 4 stroke fuel injected.
Engine and boat new (engine now have 1HR)
Adding our weight together 679lb

Did you follow Yamaha's break in procedures?

[oilngas]

I have a 16' Crest liner Fish Hawk. The engine is old technology carbed, two stroke oil injection. It will plane quite nicely with three adults and a child. Top speed is about 21 - 23 mph on the GPS. The boat and trailer weight 1200#'s. As others have said the max. HP via the hull plate is 75 hp, and i wish i had that, but she gets the job done, fished many lakes and a lot of hours. I think we are headed to Crawling tomorrow so if you want I will post the prop size after i pick it up.

[Dean2]

Originally Posted by Dezso

Smoker Craft 162 Pro Angler XL
Yamaha 4 stroke fuel injected.
Engine and boat new (engine now have 1HR)
Adding our weight together 679lb

Max load capacity is 700 lbs, as people weight is 679 lbs, motor is least 250 according to the Yamaha site and 22 gallons of gas is another 110, you are already at 1049 pounds. You are 350 pounds over the boats rated capacity and you are down 30 horse from the max rated horsepower. Add to that a hull that weighs 1140 pounds dry, I can't tell if that is just the hull or the hull and motor dry and I can see why it wont plane, you are trying to get from 1950 to 2,200 pounds on plane with 60 horse. Not likely gonna work, even with a smaller prop, though I would try that before going for a bigger motor..

It probably has a three blade alum 14 pitch on it from the factory. I would say a four blade stainless prop in 14" 10 pitch would probably be worth trying, just have to watch you don't over rev, max 6000 rpm, once you get up on step.

Here is what is on the Boat maker site:


Max Horsepower
90 hp
Beam
92 in
Dry Weight
1140 lb
Max Persons
5
Interior Depth
27 in
Transom Width
84 in
Max Capacity
700lbs
Fuel Capacity
22 gal
Length
16'4"
Number of Seats
2
Depth
35
Deadrise at Transom
10 deg

We really do try to help people out here on AO, but to expect us to look up the info rather than providing it when asked is going to severely limit the number of people willing to help.

[nick0danger]

Originally Posted by Dean2

Lovely but you need to answer the rest of the questions. Max horsepower rating for boat. Max load capacity, as people weight is 679 lbs, motor is at least 250 and 20 gallons of gas is another 100, you are already at 1029 pounds. Weight of the hull, pitch of prop and number of blades.

Max Horsepower
90 hp
Beam
92 in
Dry Weight
1140 lbs
Max Persons
5
Interior Depth
27 in
Transom Width
84 in
Max Capacity
700 lbs
Fuel Capacity
22 gal
Length
16'4"
Number of Seats
2
Depth
35
Deadrise at Transom
10 deg

[Hunter guy]

Hate to ask this but was the tilt bottomed out? I have a fiberglass 16ft 60 hp motor with 4 adults or planes out nice than I lift my motor up alittle to take the tail drag away so it goes faster, I just took at legend 17ft with a 90hp for a drive and with 4 adults it was gutless compared to my 60hp

[ctd]

The motor should be able to put that boat up on plain. Looking at the prop wash it would indicate the motor trim is incorrect, shaft size is wrong, prop is wrong or a combination of any or a three.
The motor wont be able to get you up to 30mph, but you should be able to get up on plain and hit 15-20

When you find out the issue let us know.

[FishHunterPro]

Originally Posted by Dezso

Purchased a new boat from a local dealership.
16’x93” with 60HP outbound.
Yesterday after 2hr taking it home we hit Wabamun.
4 person (2 young adults, 2 adults not overweight) we can’t get it up on plain, not my first boat and fished with lots of friends with 16’ 50-60HP their boat with 4 person got up on plain just fine even if toke a bit longer 10-15s
Toke it back to the dealership today morning and one of the first things I got is I have to much expectation or need a bigger engine.
A 16’ with 60HP 4 person will never go up on plain they say.
Anyone can back me up or I’m screwed ☹️
What can I do, how to resolve it, what legal right I have ?
Thanks

Dezso

Seems like the shadiest deal ever, you would think the dealer would mention that it wouldn’t plane and suggest a bigger motor. Likely though you probably just need to change the prop to a lower pitch or even a prop with more or less blades. That should be free of charge in my opinion .

[EZM]

Originally Posted by FishHunterPro

Seems like the shadiest deal ever, you would think the dealer would mention that it wouldn’t plane and suggest a bigger motor. Likely though you probably just need to change the prop to a lower pitch or even a prop with more or less blades. That should be free of charge in my opinion .

Agree.

I am genuinely curious if this "package" came from "the south side and Red Deer" dealer (no remain nameless as a sponsor) or Ship Wreck - both are well known to offer under powered packages, attractive financing and their refusal to admit there is an issue with their set ups and/or boat/motor matches.

[Outbound]

Not to hijack the thread, but which boat dealers in Edmonton are recommended and which ones to avoid?

[Dean2]

Originally Posted by Outbound

Not to hijack the thread, but which boat dealers in Edmonton are recommended and which ones to avoid?

For Service work, Supreme Boat and Sled on highway 37 just East of highway 2. About 6 miles north of St Albert. He was the Warrior dealer till just recently. Knows his stuff when it comes to setting up and working on boats. Do not know what other makes of boats he carries.

[brendan's dad]

Originally Posted by Outbound

Not to hijack the thread, but which boat dealers in Edmonton are recommended and which ones to avoid?

My brother has had really good luck with the shop out in Gibbons