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06-18-2018, 09:41 AM
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Calgary
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Ever know someone who got caught without a PAL?
Just out of curiosity, does anyone know anyone who has been charged with possession of a firearm with out a valid PAL / POL? I'm not talking about charges related to other offenses, more specifically a hunter who didn't bother getting a license, or someone who let their license expire and didn't renew it.
What was the penalty that they received?
Last edited by Scott N; 06-18-2018 at 10:01 AM.
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06-18-2018, 09:53 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2009
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I had a high school friend who didn’t have a pal over 10 years ago get in trouble for possession of a prohibited weapon get a conditional discharge and 10 year weapons ban. I think the laws on prohibited weapons minimums have changed since than.
He had a sawed off 22 rifle he bought for $20 off a pot dealer. He had it for a few weeks was going to live in the bush for a few weeks and use to shoot small game. That never happened and he was having suicidal thoughts and brought it in the police station to surrender it. They ended up charging him.
I’ve worked with other people who had been charged with assault also have 10 year bans.
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06-18-2018, 10:00 AM
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Calgary
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From what I remember about the Boushie case, 10 years prohibition sounds pretty standard for many firearms cases.
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06-18-2018, 07:53 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Lethbridge
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Yes, i know someone who just got of scot free this spring without a pal
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06-18-2018, 08:49 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: onoway, Ab
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I don’t know of anyone who has ever been asked for a pal in Alberta never mind charged.
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06-18-2018, 09:01 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Ft. McMurray
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Smokinyotes
I don’t know of anyone who has ever been asked for a pal in Alberta never mind charged.
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I have been asked but only once
Most times when I am stopped it is coming back from thevrange and they take one look at all the gun cases and let me go on my way!
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06-19-2018, 05:42 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: in the pines
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Smokinyotes
I don’t know of anyone who has ever been asked for a pal in Alberta never mind charged.
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I got asked for my PAL last year by the RCMP while he was writing me up for speeding! Only the one time though.
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06-18-2018, 08:49 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2008
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A friend had his guns stolen and recovered.
All he had to do to get them back was reapply for his long expired PAL.
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06-18-2018, 10:34 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by crosman177
That never happened and he was having suicidal thoughts and brought it in the police station to surrender it. They ended up charging him.
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You'd think the guy would get a break for acting in good faith.
20 years ago I went to the cop shop to pay an outstanding Ctrain fine. It was outstanding, and there was a warrant, so they cuffed me, and put me through the whole deal, instead of just letting me pay it.
Remember, the police are your friends.
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06-19-2018, 05:26 PM
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Dreadful Valley
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A young fellow(at least he was when this happened) got stopped by a mounty on a rural road while he was stopped and checking a map or something like that. The mounty saw his rifle in the truck and asked to see his PAL, His PAL was expired and the mounty seized the rifle and told him he couldn’t get it back till someone with a valid PAL came to pick up the rifle. There was a defined timeline too like, 14 or 21 days, or the rifle would be destroyed.
Bushrat bailed the fellow out. And picked up the seized rifle.
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06-22-2018, 11:34 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter Abelard
You'd think the guy would get a break for acting in good faith.
20 years ago I went to the cop shop to pay an outstanding Ctrain fine. It was outstanding, and there was a warrant, so they cuffed me, and put me through the whole deal, instead of just letting me pay it.
Remember, the police are your friends.
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Ha...same thing happened to me. I didn't even know I had an outstanding ticket...I think they issued it to me while I was asleep (passed out) on the train back in the College days. They ran my name after I was a witness to a big scrap outside the Back Alley....I was just sitting on the curb and eating a hot dog and watched it all go down....they ended up cuffing me and drove me to the station to sit in jail for a few hours then was processed and paid the $115 that I apparently owed......all the guys in the fight (covered in blood) got off with nothing
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06-22-2018, 12:52 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Camrose
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I have been asked at two combined F&W/RCMP checkstops. The RCMP did seize several firearms from people that could not produce a PAL. I overheard one officer tell a person that he needed to bring a valid PAL down to the station to get his firearms back.
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06-23-2018, 02:15 AM
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Location: Blackfalds
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ive been checked twice.
once while shooting in a gravel pit. CO drove down in his truck and got out with his gun unholstered but behind the door. He said you never know who you are dealing with. Checked my pal and drove away.
Next one was when i was speeding on the way to the range. He asked where i was going so i told him, he asked where the guns where so i said in the box of my truck. he asked for the usual plus my pal. came back 5 mins later with a ticket and said happy shooting.
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06-23-2018, 11:26 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2018
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My wife's grandpa had a farm .22 no pal twelve years ago. he shot a strange dog on his yard, turns out it was the bad renters friends dog. They called the RCMP, the gun was seized, my FIL claimed the gun and borrowed it back to grandpa, no real trouble.
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