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12-23-2014, 08:14 PM
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Like I responded to you in your unsolicited PM, BM WS!
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Just a wannabe bud. Its just so sad lol
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12-23-2014, 08:22 PM
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Just a wannabe bud. Its just so sad lol
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I do not take any stock in men that can't shoot geese over 20 yards, so adios SFB's
Last edited by edmhunter; 12-23-2014 at 08:34 PM.
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12-23-2014, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by edmhunter
I do not take any stock in men that can't shoot over 20 years, so adios SFB's
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Can I get a translation please
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12-23-2014, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Bergerboy
Can I get a translation please
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Ditto!
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12-23-2014, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by wildside2014
Oh the beauty.
Ok bud. I called you out before, and fortunately now most of AO is is as well. You called me a liar about referencing who has hunted with you and what they think of you. Now maybe you understand?
I offered to put you on national tv to quantify your abilities and you continue to sidestep that offer while publically calling guys out on their abilities.
I will state it right now. You sir are a liar. You practise poor ethics and frankly, you dont know what youre doing man. You have no clue whatsoever. You joined in september and have more posts than guys do after 3 years. You have not spent one day in the field this year. You are a clown.
Get over the napolean complex. You havent fooled one guy on this forum. You are nothing more than a bushwhacking hack that dooms future hunters by exhibiting garbage tendencies in the field. You are AO's version of uncle rico. 50 something years old and still throwing the football hoping to get the call up. Its sad man. Grow a set, show up or shut up
If i offended others with this post i apologize. It fires me up knowing this goof might be mentoring others new to hunting though. Mods, i probably deserve whats coming to me
Ban hammer on wildside commence.....
Cheers fellas
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I am offended and the apology is not accepted, why can't you just leave it alone. Instead you gotta bring this garbage out in a thread that some guy just asked about a flat shooting gun, help him out or shut up,,,, man you guys gotta lighten up or at least stay on track with the post,,,,, wow
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12-23-2014, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by wildside2014
Ditto!
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It's where you live SFB's, see attached and please stop sending me unsolicited PMs. Your unsolicited PM''s are less then unwelcome.
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12-23-2014, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Bergerboy
Can I get a translation please
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Too cheap to buy decoys to do it right or too dumb to figure out how to set up a rig to get them in the kill hole.
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12-23-2014, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Cowtown guy
Too cheap to buy decoys to do it right or too dumb to figure out how to set up a rig to get them in the kill hole.
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Gotcha. Thanks!
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12-23-2014, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Jims71duster
I am offended and the apology is not accepted, why can't you just leave it alone. Instead you gotta bring this garbage out in a thread that some guy just asked about a flat shooting gun, help him out or shut up,,,, man you guys gotta lighten up or at least stay on track with the post,,,,, wow
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Jims71duster...are you and edmhunter the same person? Or have I missed something....
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12-23-2014, 08:59 PM
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Jims I am one of the offending ones and I do apologize for it. I know there are many capable shooters on here but I'm hard pressed to believe that their are a few if any that can free hand shoot 500yards. If he were to say it was a fluke then I'd believe that.
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12-23-2014, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by norwestalta
Jims I am one of the offending ones and I do apologize for it. I know there are many capable shooters on here but I'm hard pressed to believe that their are a few if any that can free hand shoot 500yards. If he were to say it was a fluke then I'd believe that.
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there are freehand shooters in alberta shooting 500 metres silhouette and their targets as far as i can tell are about half the size of the one i am trying to shoot on offhand challenge relatively so theres gotta be quite a few guys with talent and practice to do so
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12-23-2014, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by norwestalta
Jims I am one of the offending ones and I do apologize for it. I know there are many capable shooters on here but I'm hard pressed to believe that their are a few if any that can free hand shoot 500yards. If he were to say it was a fluke then I'd believe that.
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That's got nothing to do with the thread, he wants to know what caliber/cartridge can do it,,,not who can do it, you guys are so caught up in a fight you don't even know what the thread is about
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12-23-2014, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by norwestalta
Jims I am one of the offending ones and I do apologize for it. I know there are many capable shooters on here but I'm hard pressed to believe that their are a few if any that can free hand shoot 500yards. If he were to say it was a fluke then I'd believe that.
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I think it's possible, I even think it's possible to make the shot more times than not. I do think its impossible to make the shot every time tho.
I shoot targets quite often at 500yds with a rest, I also take lots of shots freehand at coyotes at all type of ranges. The last coyote I shot at was at a true 500yds, and it was free hand, and the coyote was on a dead run and I....... Missed, but I was close, really really close, like within inches close. As a matter of fact, about 2 weeks after the season I texted the guy I was with when I shot and told him that was the shot I was most proud of all year. Having the composure to put all the factors together and come as close as I did, even though it was a miss, to come that close at a coyote running flat out at a true 500yds was impressive, at least to me.
So, moral of my story, if I can come that close, I believe there are guys out there that can make 500yd freehand shots with good consistancey, I just haven't met any yet.
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12-23-2014, 09:29 PM
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I used to date a flat shooter.
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12-23-2014, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Bergerboy
Jims71duster...are you and edmhunter the same person? Or have I missed something....
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You've missed something,,, like most who have posted the last five pages,,,,,I like the 7 mm mag, the 257 weatherby I think they are both great "flat" shooters as long as one takes the time on the ranges and learns what happens at a given distance. That being said, most of the "normal" caliber/cartridges being used can hit targets consistently if the same practice is utilized,, just not as "flat" as others. One also needs to consider what you want to happen with the bullet at different distances. If your hunting then you may not want a 120 gr. hitting an animal at 800 yards and in that case you may need the "flattest" 30 cal you can get (as an example). That 257 may be just fine for paper at 800 but for me it's too small for game, others may choose to use it anyway, personal choice and individual values too sensitive to get into.
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12-23-2014, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by gitrdun
This flat shooter topic comes up often. A fellow wants to discard his 30-06 for a more "flat" shooting .270WIN, or so on and so on. I would love to see a definition of a flat shooter vs one that isn't. Of course I'm not speaking of a 30-30 vs a 220 Swift, so let's stay within parameters. Why would one not consider a slightly higher hold over, and maybe at longer range a turret adjustment. Are folks that look for a flatter shooting caliber expecting it to do their homework for them in terms of a couple of inches which in terms of kill zone would make little to no difference at all. Flat shooting seems to be an overused and misunderstood phrase. Define flat shooting.
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Read it again everyone
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12-23-2014, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Jims71duster
You've missed something,,, like most who have posted the last five pages,,,,,I like the 7 mm mag, the 257 weatherby I think they are both great "flat" shooters as long as one takes the time on the ranges and learns what happens at a given distance. That being said, most of the "normal" caliber/cartridges being used can hit targets consistently if the same practice is utilized,, just not as "flat" as others. One also needs to consider what you want to happen with the bullet at different distances. If your hunting then you may not want a 120 gr. hitting an animal at 800 yards and in that case you may need the "flattest" 30 cal you can get (as an example). That 257 may be just fine for paper at 800 but for me it's too small for game, others may choose to use it anyway, personal choice and individual values too sensitive to get into.
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My apologies Jim. I did miss something.
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12-23-2014, 09:36 PM
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The beauty of silhouette shooting is can be made to work for different situations.
This is the most common link for information, there are many others.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metalli...uette_shooting
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12-23-2014, 09:38 PM
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My choice for flattest shooter is a 300wsm with a God dang huskemaw. Just dial that puppy in and a whamo down goes Bambi.
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12-23-2014, 09:40 PM
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Marx I should of rephrased it and said few and far in between can do it consistently.
Kurt close only counts in horse shoes and hand grenades.
Back to the main theme. What would the flatest shooting chambering be?
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12-23-2014, 09:42 PM
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I did shoot a 6.5x300Weatherby that was an amazingly flat cartridge.
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12-23-2014, 09:46 PM
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Yahoo!! gun talk in the guns and ammo discussion forum!
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12-23-2014, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by norwestalta
Marx I should of rephrased it and said few and far in between can do it consistently.
Kurt close only counts in horse shoes and hand grenades.
Back to the main theme. What would the flatest shooting chambering be?
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As far asI know, 26 Nosler
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12-23-2014, 09:52 PM
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I wonder if you shot a 338 and a 22 250 straight up into the air, which bullet would fall back to the ground first?
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12-23-2014, 09:52 PM
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I will look forward to Skytops 26 Nosler real world outcomes. If it seems good it will likely be a future build.
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12-23-2014, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Talking moose
I wonder if you shot a 338 and a 22 250 straight up into the air, which bullet would fall back to the ground first?
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Is there a Huskemaw on either one?
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12-23-2014, 09:58 PM
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Is there a Huskemaw on either one?
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No huskemaws......(therefore no ability to dodge insects)
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12-23-2014, 09:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Talking moose
I wonder if you shot a 338 and a 22 250 straight up into the air, which bullet would fall back to the ground first?
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Same time
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12-23-2014, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Bergerboy
Same time
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Unless both bullets are fired with the same velocity, and have the same B.C., shooting both straight up adds extra variables, compared to simply dropping both bullets from the same height. One bullet may travel higher, which means that it would have farther to fall.
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12-23-2014, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by elkhunter11
Unless both bullets are fired with the same velocity, and have the same B.C., shooting both straight up adds extra variables, compared to simply dropping both bullets from the same height. One bullet may travel higher, which means that it would have farther to fall.
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Fair. I need to math this out.
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