If we only had a curfew in B.C.

Redfrog · #1 08-15-2011, 05:21 PM

Yep we need a Canada wide curfew maybe. That would sure help in this case.

The Canadian Press - ONLINE EDITION
A timeline of some of the Bacon brothers' recent court tangles

By: The Canadian Press

Posted: 08/15/2011 4:39 PM | Comments: 0 (including replies)

VANCOUVER - Here is a timeline of the some of the recent court tangles of Jonathan, Jarrod and Jamie Bacon:

August 2005: Jonathan Bacon and two others are charged with 15 counts of drugs and weapons offences after police found a cache of automatic weapons, silencers, a bulletproof vest and a police uniform, as well as marijuana, ecstasy, cocaine and more than $90,000 in cash.

April 2007: An attempted hit is made on Jamie Bacon as he pulled into his family's Abbotsford home. Bacon was only bruised because he was wearing body armour, but a later search of his vehicle prompted 10 gun-related charges and one charge of possessing oxycodone. His brother Jarrod was also charged.

October 2007: Six people are found murdered in a Surrey, B.C. apartment highrise, two of them innocent bystanders who police have said were in the wrong place at the wrong time.

June 2008: Provincial court dismisses drug and weapons charges against Jonathan Bacon after agreeing his charter rights were violated.

April 2009: Jamie Bacon is arrested and charged with murder in the so-called Surrey Six slayings. Five others are also charged.

April 2009: Dennis Karbovenic pleaded guilty in April 2009 to three counts of second-degree murder and conspiracy to commit first-degree murder in the Surrey slayings.

March 2010: B.C. Court of Appeal overturns the provincial court ruling acquitting Jonathan Bacon of drug and weapons offences and orders a new trial.

May 13, 2010: Jamie Bacon is convicted of the weapons charges stemming from the attempted hit in the family driveway. Jarrod Bacon is acquitted.

June 9, 2010: A B.C. Supreme Court judge rules that Jamie Bacon's charter rights while in jail have been repeatedly violated since his arrest, constituting cruel and unusual punishment.

Nov. 18, 2010: Supreme Court of Canada agrees to hear Jonathan Bacon's argument that his charter rights were violated when he was charged with the 2005 drugs and weapons offences.

Dec. 18, 2010: Jamie Bacon is sentenced to seven years in prison for weapons charges. The sentence amounts to three years and eight months when time in custody is taken into account.

hal53 · #2 08-15-2011, 05:29 PM

What a waste of tax payers money!!!!... I hope their Legal Aid lawyers are proud of themselves....and the morons we call Judges....time to start electing our Judges......IMHO

TreeGuy · #3 08-15-2011, 05:39 PM

One down.....two to go......

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Thr...369/story.html

chasingtail · #4 08-15-2011, 05:40 PM

To many judges and border agents and other law enforcement on the criminals payroll.

Redfrog · #5 08-15-2011, 05:46 PM

""Gangs and their associates have a callous disregard for the safety of others when disputes erupt and it potentially places all of us at risk."

He said suppressing gang violence remains a top priority for police across B.C.

"We will not tolerate criminal gang violence, gang disputes or turf wars in our community. The issue of gangs and organized crime is one of the top law enforcement priorities in this country and in this province," McKinnon said."

RCMP Superintendent Bill McKinnon needs to have a detective read him the article i posted so he gets up to speed.

Blah! blah! blah.

i wonder if those Bacon boys are making all there money picking raspberries in Abbotsford?

Got Juice? · #6 08-16-2011, 01:17 AM

sounds like Bacon was just B'egg-ing for it.

Egads...I am sorry chaps, but a pun in need and all that...

Hunter Trav · #7 08-16-2011, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Redfrog

Yep we need a Canada wide curfew maybe. That would sure help in this case.

So please explain to me how a curfew is going to help anything???

Fisherpeak · #8 08-16-2011, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Hunter Trav

So please explain to me how a curfew is going to help anything???

Yeah,really.We need to beat some judges with a stick.Scum bags are taking over the country and it ain`t just B.C.

hadda · #9 08-16-2011, 12:14 PM

How would a curfew help? Sounds like a knee jerk reaction. Like the knee jerk reactions that are causing other freedoms to be taken away.

IR_mike · #10 08-16-2011, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by hadda

How would a curfew help? Sounds like a knee jerk reaction. Like the knee jerk reactions that are causing other freedoms to be taken away.

Its called sarcasm on the part of the OP.

Mr Conservation · #11 08-18-2011, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by chasingtail

To many judges and border agents and other law enforcement on the criminals payroll.

At the risk of opening a large can of worms, any proof or examples to support this statement ??

The problem we have is a "legal" system that puts the rights of the criminal ahead of the rights of the victims. Now - if we had a "justice" system, then the tide may turn in the favor of the victims. The only "winners" are the lawyers who make HUGE sums of money.

Here in B.C., "charge approval" is done by the Crown. Unless there is a solid chance of a conviction, most times the Crown won't approve a charge or charges. I have many friends who are law enforcement officers. More often than not, they will submit a court brief, and the Crown will return it with the comment "no likelihood of conviction", so no charges approved.

Mr Conservation

IR_mike · #12 08-18-2011, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Conservation

At the risk of opening a large can of worms, any proof or examples to support this statement ??

The problem we have is a "legal" system that puts the rights of the criminal ahead of the rights of the victims. Now - if we had a "justice" system, then the tide may turn in the favor of the victims. The only "winners" are the lawyers who make HUGE sums of money.

Here in B.C., "charge approval" is done by the Crown. Unless there is a solid chance of a conviction, most times the Crown won't approve a charge or charges. I have many friends who are law enforcement officers. More often than not, they will submit a court brief, and the Crown will return it with the comment "no likelihood of conviction", so no charges approved.

Mr Conservation

So seeings how you live on Vancouver Island Just curious, but in your opinion how much has the hells angels entrenched itself in legal businesses and areas like the dockworkers?

Mr Conservation · #13 08-19-2011, 01:13 PM

In my opinion, and to the best of my knowledge - LOTS.

When I pose the question to my law enforcement friends, that's all they will say. They can't and won't provide specifics.

Mr Conservation

chasingtail · #14 08-19-2011, 03:51 PM

High ranking Gang members of the Red Scorpians, Independent Soldiers and the Hells Angels in a meeting at a casino and the police know nothing about! Shouldn't they be monitoring the gangs a little better? There should of been under cover cops all over the place, and they sure as hell should of caught the guy who shot them up in broad daylight.

Classic_Cool · #15 08-19-2011, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by hadda

How would a curfew help? Sounds like a knee jerk reaction. Like the knee jerk reactions that are causing other freedoms to be taken away.

Freedom is overrated. People always say they don't want to live in a police state with cops on every street corner. Now personally I walk past cops all the time downtown and I wouldn't care if they WERE on every street corner, not if it put an end to crap like this. Not like the cops are going to shoot you in the face if you look at them wrong, heck our cops wear cowboy hats for the tourists.

I'm not suggesting we crack down on every little thing and make this country like China. Just getting sick of this shades of grey nonsense. We gotta shrug this modest notion that the uneducated nut circumsizing his daughter with a shard of glass on the other side of the world has a valid point of view to be considered. We all know what's right and what's wrong, we just need to act on it.

Sorry if that got dark, I was born standing on a soap box

Classic_Cool · #16 08-19-2011, 04:28 PM

Just to add something more constructive to the conversation here's a possible amendment:

No more getting off because of technicalities. Instead of rewarding the criminals by dismissing the charges altogether, just penalize the cop who broke the rules. That way the police won't have unlimited power to do what they want and the criminals will still go to jail as opposed to getting the evidence dismissed and we all clap our hands over our ears like we don't know they're guilty.

Just a thought.