Trade Skill/Labor for Hunting Access

sgtaxe · #1 09-08-2011, 10:50 PM

Is their a place on the forums to set up a trade for labor/skill for hunting access, I am sure their are lots of people out their that would be willing to put some hard labor in helping with fence repairs, or plying their trade to help out a fellow hunter in return for hunting access.

xtreme hunter10 · #2 09-09-2011, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by sgtaxe

Is their a place on the forums to set up a trade for labor/skill for hunting access, I am sure their are lots of people out their that would be willing to put some hard labor in helping with fence repairs, or plying their trade to help out a fellow hunter in return for hunting access.

Ummm, I am fairly certain that its still illegal to barter for hunting access.
However, there are many organizations that can always use volunteers for projects. Ducks unlimited, buck for wildlife or your nearest chapter of Alberta Fish and Game association. They all need more volunteers. and you get access to hunting

elkhunter11 · #3 09-09-2011, 05:51 AM

Receiving reward or compensation of any kind in return for hunting access is illegal in Alberta.

catnthehat · #4 09-09-2011, 06:07 AM

I simply drop by from time to time and lend a hand to people I know now as friends, whether or not I hunt on their land has nothing to do with it!

Cat

noelb · #5 09-09-2011, 08:03 AM

Sounds like a pretty slippery slope to pay for access hunting.

xtreme hunter10 · #6 09-09-2011, 10:03 AM

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Sounds like a pretty slippery slope to pay for access hunting.

Its illegal....slippery indeed.

pottymouth · #7 09-09-2011, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by sgtaxe

Is their a place on the forums to set up a trade for labor/skill for hunting access, I am sure their are lots of people out their that would be willing to put some hard labor in helping with fence repairs, or plying their trade to help out a fellow hunter in return for hunting access.

Knock on some doors, ask for permission. If you end up getting some, help build your relationship with the landowner by offering to help him with things that you've seen you could apply your trade too.

Every rancher could always use an extra hand in the early spring or late fall.

elkhunter11 · #8 09-09-2011, 10:55 AM

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Sounds like a pretty slippery slope to pay for access hunting.

To advertise services in exchange for access for the purpose of hunting, as is being proposed by the OP isn't on a slippery slope, it is outright illegal.

winged1 · #9 09-09-2011, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by xtreme hunter10

Its illegal....slippery indeed.

Nothing wrong with forming a relationship and recieving permissions as a consequence. I think it's a great idea, but it can't be the focus. I discovered years ago that helping out a farmer is one of the best ways to get access. Pitching bales, combining, fallow, repairs, etc. Advertise your skills, charge reasonable rates, and make a friend. Might turn out to be a great hunting partner. The tip is charging for your services, that takes the focus off of gaining permissions.

sgtaxe · #10 09-09-2011, 07:54 PM

Thanks for the feedback, well i hope over the next few years that i can meet a land owner that needs some help, i suppose if it leads to a hunting opportunity then that would be a bonus, otherwise a bit of hard labor in the summer and fall will help get me in shape for hunting season.

xtreme hunter10 · #11 09-09-2011, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by sgtaxe

Thanks for the feedback, well i hope over the next few years that i can meet a land owner that needs some help, i suppose if it leads to a hunting opportunity then that would be a bonus, otherwise a bit of hard labor in the summer and fall will help get me in shape for hunting season.

it looks like we are in the same boat. I'm gonna be doing a lot of asking for permission around 248, 508 and 250. If I find a few good spots I will message you and give you the landowners info. I'm hoping to get atleast 2 permissions tomorrow or this coming week. I'll let you know how i do

Hornaholic · #12 09-09-2011, 09:41 PM

[QUOTE=elkhunter11;1072914]Receiving reward or compensation of any kind in return for hunting access is illegal in Alberta.[/QUOTE

I have a neigbor that owns 1000's of acres & he has gone through his lawyer & yes it is leagal to rent access to your property for hunting,camping & what ever the want to do on the property; i thought it was sketchy but i know he is charging $1500 per 1/4 for a 1 year lease on the property for hunting purpose only!!!

xtreme hunter10 · #13 09-09-2011, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by elkhunter11

Receiving reward or compensation of any kind in return for hunting access is illegal in Alberta.[/QUOTE

I have a neigbor that owns 1000's of acres & he has gone through his lawyer & yes it is leagal to rent access to your property for hunting,camping & what ever the want to do on the property; i thought it was sketchy but i know he is charging $1500 per 1/4 for a 1 year lease on the property for hunting purpose only!!!

Thats your own land then if u are renting or leasinf land it doesnt matter what for, but thats way different than paying someone to hunt on their land, huge difference. cause the land is then yours and u can do pretty much whatever u want on your own land.

elkhunter11 · #14 09-09-2011, 10:31 PM

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I have a neigbor that owns 1000's of acres & he has gone through his lawyer & yes it is leagal to rent access to your property for hunting,camping & what ever the want to do on the property; i thought it was sketchy but i know he is charging $1500 per 1/4 for a 1 year lease on the property for hunting purpose only!!!

Copied directly from the 2011 hunting regulation booklet.

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Access to Public and Private Lands
Except under authority of a Game Bird Shooting Ground Licence, it is unlawful to directly or indirectly buy or sell, trade or barter, or offer to buy or sell access to any land for the purpose of hunting any big game, furbearing animals or game birds.

Wolf Medicine · #15 09-09-2011, 10:55 PM

As is always funny to me is the holyér then thou slight to any subject. Personal opinions on the subject aside, The rules in game regs are as always relatively clear. And not to ruffle any holy feathers. And have not and will not myself. But technically, If the owner of any property leased his ground for a short period of time.... Say a month. That instantly gives the rights of access and such to said property. Thus right to hunt on said property if it does not contravene any aspect of the contract, They would have the essential access and use rights as the landholder. Unfortunately can catch the landholder as if any application is made against that property the lease holder holds rights to it which are quite substantial.... Very few and far between that would give others rights to surface lease inputs and such. So not truly much of A real concern. So technically for specific hunting.. Not legal.... But technically possible... Yes.. And arguable in court oh yeah. But wouldn't want to be the guy on the line trying it.. And in the loop it would be technically possible to hold private ground as hunting leases in Alberta. But the control issues would immediately destroy the majority.

WM.

Big Daddy Badger · #16 09-10-2011, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Hornaholic

Thats your own land then if u are renting or leasinf land it doesnt matter what for, but thats way different than paying someone to hunt on their land, huge difference. cause the land is then yours and u can do pretty much whatever u want on your own land.

x2 It is hair splitting but if we start entering into deals like this...the whole thing will turn into a money making enterprise and we'll basically have hunt farms by another name.

It's not a good idea.