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Old 07-26-2012, 02:40 PM
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Just to confirm...electronic calls for coyotes are legal in Alberta, I was told by a friend that they are not legal.
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Old 07-26-2012, 03:04 PM
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Just to confirm...electronic calls for coyotes are legal in Alberta, I was told by a friend that they are not legal.
Regulations are really easy to read... Look it up..
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Old 07-26-2012, 03:11 PM
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From the "guide to Hunting Regulations" (available on this site):
recorded wildlife calls or sounds, or an electronically operated calling device except; 1) when hunting migratory game birds with the use of calls or sounds that mimic snow geese, or 2) using electronic calls can be used to hunt crows, magpies, coyote, red fox and wolf (using sounds that mimic these animals or rodents).

and as a matter of fact...Contrary to popular belief rabbits are not part of the rodent family although they look very similar. They are part of the Lagomorph family, which are more closely related to horses due to similar methods on how their digestive systems function.

Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Are_rabbit...#ixzz21lWwCaVN
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Old 07-26-2012, 03:43 PM
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From the "guide to Hunting Regulations" (available on this site):
recorded wildlife calls or sounds, or an electronically operated calling device except; 1) when hunting migratory game birds with the use of calls or sounds that mimic snow geese, or 2) using electronic calls can be used to hunt crows, magpies, coyote, red fox and wolf (using sounds that mimic these animals or rodents).

and as a matter of fact...Contrary to popular belief rabbits are not part of the rodent family although they look very similar. They are part of the Lagomorph family, which are more closely related to horses due to similar methods on how their digestive systems function.

Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Are_rabbit...#ixzz21lWwCaVN
so does that mean it is illeagal to use an e-caller if its playing rabbit distress sounds?
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Old 07-26-2012, 03:43 PM
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Yes you can use an electronic call for them....but you have to be careful which "preloaded" calls you use.

For instance, the commonly pre-loaded "woodpecker" call is actually not allowed to be used, it is illegal to use "as the regs are written"

....a rodent distress, ki-yi, and a howl can be used.

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Regulations are really easy to read... Look it up..
Sorry for making you go way out of your way to answer a simple question, thanks to the people that took the time time to respond without the sarcasm. Why some people even get up in the morning is beyond me.....where others are eager to help out any time they can, makes it pretty easy to pick out the ***holes though.
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Old 07-26-2012, 03:59 PM
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From our own....RM an article. Read down to the big print A call to SRD/F&W would confirm....

Calling All Predators

With backpack and 22-250 slung over my shoulder, I slowly worked my way up the snow-packed trail towards a large opening that bordered a frozen, meandering creek—a preferred hunting route of coyotes.

Hunting Crown land within a respectable distance of farmland and a cattle operation, my intention was to setup on a slope overlooking the opening and perhaps call a coyote to my location with my newly acquired electronic call.

For the past few days I had drove my wife Rhonda, not to mention my dogs, crazy with electronic experimentations in the basement of our home.

Feeling comfortable with the new unit, I was now ready to give it a chance to prove itself worthy of its exorbitant price.

Predator hunting and control is often one of those controversial issues that when placed within a public spotlight is seldom accepted as necessary. In fact, few outside the hunting community condone the practice, especially when it results in the promotion of ungulate populations for hunting purposes.

However, emotions aside, predator control is much needed in a province where wolf and coyote populations have seized the day. Realizing this, Sustainable Resource Development (SRD) legalized the use of electronic calls in 2009 with the hope that it would further the success of predator hunters and curtail a burgeoning population of predators. And since then, predator hunting has gained a renewed interest in Alberta as more hunters begin to take up the pursuit after their big calibre rifles have been stored for the winter. Now, smaller calibre rifles are consistently slung over shoulders for coyotes, fox and wolves in January and February when the weather turns from cold to worse, and pelts are at a premium.

But, unintentionally, SRD limited the use of electronic calls by limiting the types of sounds that can be emanated from them when hunting.

In fact, because of the wording within our regulations, confusion among predator hunters often arises as to what sounds can be used and what sounds can’t be used.


[B]Since the legalization of electronic calls, the ranks of the predator hunter has grown exponentially.
According to the Alberta Guide to Hunting Regulations, “...electronic calls can be used to hunt crows, magpies, coyote, red fox and wolf (using sounds that mimic these animals or rodents).” The key words here are “using sounds that mimic these animals or rodents.” Suddenly an entire host of sounds used with electronic calls is off limits, including every predator hunter’s favourite call, the dying rabbit, or rabbit in distress call.

It should be noted here that rabbits are members of the family Leporidae in the order of Lagomorpha, whereas rodents are members of the order Rodentia. The Lagomorpha classification was given to rabbits in the early 1900’s. Therefore, that dying rabbit or rabbit in distress button on your electronic call, by wording, is illegal to use in Alberta when hunting predators.

However, in conversation with Provincial Big Game Specialist, Rob Corrigan, the spirit of the regulation was not to dissuade predator hunters from using electronic dying rabbit or rabbit in distress calls, after all, the intent here is to reduce coyote and wolf populations. Removing one of the more popular calls from the predator hunter’s arsenal would hinder that process.

Fish and Wildlife is looking at the current regulation and a possible rewording may take place in the near future. However, you can consider electronic rabbit sounds legal for use in the province.

With my electronic caller, a Foxpro FX3, I have found that the “Coyote Locater” call works well in determining if I do in fact have coyotes in the area, which in the vast majority of cases I get return calls almost instantly. I may use the coyote locater call again right away to create what I like to call a coyote frenzy, but then that’s it. At this point, the game is now in your hands and experimenting with different sounds will help you decide what works best for you in the area you hunt.

I’ve also had success using the “Female Coyote Invitation” call, but sometimes a big dog will “hang up”. Good friend Ken Colwill and I had a male “hang up” on us last January in the bush on the edge of a field full of cattle. The male refused to enter the scene and chose instead to bark at us from a mere 10-yards. Unable to see him and unsure of what to do next, I hit the invitation call once more and never heard from him again. I must admit, however, that during our standoff, which lasted for several minutes, the adrenaline was flowing, as it was extremely exciting to have a ‘yote that close.

I have also had good success with various rabbit calls. However, in turn, I’ve had little success using “Vole Squeaks” or similar rodent sounds. If there was a reason to hunt great horned owls though, vole squeaks work well. In fact, twice now I’ve had a great horned owl sitting on top of my caller, and quite humourously, wondering why that big meal that was so easily acquired is suddenly not so edible and won’t shut up.

Regardless of how you choose to predator hunt, predator hunt you should. Coyotes create havoc on annual spring fawn production as do wolves with all our ungulates.

Al Voth, a far more experienced predator hunter than I, offers several good suggestions for using electronic callers on page 12. Make sure you give “The Digital Hunter” a read, then get out there, and help put that predator population in check. Our ungulates will thank you for it
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Old 07-26-2012, 04:10 PM
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Sorry for making you go way out of your way to answer a simple question, thanks to the people that took the time time to respond without the sarcasm. Why some people even get up in the morning is beyond me.....where others are eager to help out any time they can, makes it pretty easy to pick out the ***holes though.
Obviously not simple enough for you to get off your arse and read a few lines from the regs.
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Old 07-26-2012, 04:48 PM
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Your friend doesn't want you shooting his coyotes. They are legal to use.
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Old 07-26-2012, 04:52 PM
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Obviously not simple enough for you to get off your arse and read a few lines from the regs.
Are forums like this one and all sorts not designed to help people with questions and to share our stories? I thought so.
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Old 07-27-2012, 10:03 AM
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Obviously not simple enough for you to get off your arse and read a few lines from the regs.
Wow, like I said it's pretty easy to pick out the goofs on this forum. Clearly from the respones by people that actually want to help the regs can be not as clear as one would think. It's certainly nice to know there are people willing to share there experiance and others that are just boneheads. The nice thing is it's pretty easy to tell them appart.
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Sorry for making you go way out of your way to answer a simple question, thanks to the people that took the time time to respond without the sarcasm. Why some people even get up in the morning is beyond me.....where others are eager to help out any time they can, makes it pretty easy to pick out the ***holes though.
I don't think he wasn't being sarcastic. It was a pretty straight-forward piece of advice. It appears you hadn't read the regs, and should. Now if you had said "I read the regs, but I'm a bit confused..." that's another matter.
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100% legal, have at er.. Good luck.
I hunt allot of yoties and the only one worth buying is a fox pro...Trust me the others work to but the sound is not the same ..
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I don't think he wasn't being sarcastic. It was a pretty straight-forward piece of advice. It appears you hadn't read the regs, and should. Now if you had said "I read the regs, but I'm a bit confused..." that's another matter.

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I don't think he wasn't being sarcastic. It was a pretty straight-forward piece of advice. It appears you hadn't read the regs, and should. Now if you had said "I readSitara Hewitt the regs, but I'm a bit confused..." that's another matter.
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A decent enough question to start with but amazing to see. how its turning out. Im hoping that the moderators will begin using some judgement and begin deleting some of the rubbish and criticism that is continuing to grow on here. I better state that this is just my opinion before I get blasted.
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100% legal, have at er.. Good luck.
I hunt allot of yoties and the only one worth buying is a fox pro...Trust me the others work to but the sound is not the same ..
I have the new Primos Alpha dog and it is every bit as good or better than the foxpro. There are more and more goods calls out there as the popularity of predator hunting increases.
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A decent enough question to start with but amazing to see. how its turning out. Im hoping that the moderators will begin using some judgement and begin deleting some of the rubbish and criticism that is continuing to grow on here. I better state that this is just my opinion before I get blasted.
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