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09-25-2012
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Join Date: Sep 2012
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Primos Bow Sling - NOT A LEGAL CASE!
Haven't been able to offer AO very much in return for the education I've received but came up with this today. Consider it my way of saying thank you to those that offered sound advice.
The Primos Bow Sling is NOT entirely legal to use as a bow case.
I spent a while talking to F&W today and brought up a technicality to which I received a very different answer than the shop I purchased the product at.
I'll use a provincial wild land park as an example. I have to park my truck and walk down out of the 'recreational day use area' before my bow can be removed from the case. Whether I'm carrying it or it is in my truck, the primos bow sling would not be considered a legal case to use alone.
The reason being is that the weapon should be covered entirely in this area. F&W said they didn't mind if I sewed a piece of cloth on that could wrap around the bow at least once but as is, the sling does not cut it. I believe it would fall under the firearms type of charges and no one needs that headache.
I just got a large gun case off a friend instead but if you don't have such generous friends or access to cash, at least make sure the bow is wrapped in a sheet along with the sling. Hope this can save someone a headache in the future. Perhaps this is common knowledge but thats not the impression i get.
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09-25-2012
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Vegreville
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They sure are a lot nicer than carrying your bow by hand through the bush though!!
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09-25-2012
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: calgary
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one more of them really dum rules!
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09-26-2012
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Join Date: Apr 2012
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Bought one and it didn't fit my bow very good.
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09-27-2012
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Join Date: May 2007
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Bow SLING not a legal CASE ..... You think!?!
That's like saying a rifle sling and a neoprene scope cover isn't a case .....of course it isn't.
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09-27-2012
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: 248, Stony Plain
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike_W
Bow SLING not a legal CASE ..... You think!?!
That's like saying a rifle sling and a neoprene scope cover isn't a case .....of course it isn't.
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Yup.
To the OP: Go on google and search it; the particular diagram you pulled up is actually a Primos BOW SLING, in Mossy Oak Breakup.
If I had to do a product review that particular SLING, I'd give it about a negative 5 out of 10!!! haha. I bought one, actually fit my old bow better than my new one; only thing I use mine for is a protective string covering when storing my bow in its CASE - I always have had a weird fear that my hunting arrows, which are stowed upside down in my CASE could fall, causing my broadheads to contact the string. lol
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09-28-2012
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: northeast alberta
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I have one too. You have to make sure all snaps are snapped otherwise the bow will fall out and end up on the ground. Just happened the other day. Ya they dont fit that great but do help when you have to walk a long ways. As far as a case goes, a soft case is light and will fit the bill there, if you have to walk through an area where your weapon needs to be encased. Make some shoulder straps for it and away you go.
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09-28-2012
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Join Date: May 2008
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Your Kiiding me,Guess i will have to Buy a Rifle case,I had been using my Sling..........
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09-29-2012
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: slave lake
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Just wondering when one is legaly required to case a bow? When going through a park? I usualy just wrap a blacket around mine when its traveling, I suppose if it needs to be "cased" I could add some duct tape.
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09-29-2012
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: slave lake
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Got curious and checked my regs, pretty sure that a bow falls under the deffinition of "weapon" and not "firearm" according to the regs. The signs at my local provincial park specificly state that "firearms must be encased" no mention of "weapons". So once again, short of flying on an airplane, when would one be legaly required to case their bow, thus making the legal definition of a "case" even worth talking about?
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09-29-2012
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Join Date: Apr 2012
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Of course its not a legal case.......it's a bow sling.
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09-29-2012
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Join Date: Jun 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cal
Got curious and checked my regs, pretty sure that a bow falls under the deffinition of "weapon" and not "firearm" according to the regs. The signs at my local provincial park specificly state that "firearms must be encased" no mention of "weapons". So once again, short of flying on an airplane, when would one be legaly required to case their bow, thus making the legal definition of a "case" even worth talking about?
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Check out the Provincial Parks Act and General Regulations for the definition of firearm in a Park. Little hit pretty much anything that shoots anything at all is a firearm. (String, air, elastic, powder)
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09-29-2012
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Join Date: Aug 2008
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Originally Posted by Donkey Oatey
Check out the Provincial Parks Act and General Regulations for the definition of firearm in a Park. Little hit pretty much anything that shoots anything at all is a firearm. (String, air, elastic, powder)
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Interesting, for firearms I was told they need to also be "dissabled" when going through a park, IE trigger lock or pulling the bolt. Just wondering how one would go about "dissabling" a compound bow or slingshot?
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09-29-2012
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Join Date: Jun 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cal
Interesting, for firearms I was told they need to also be "dissabled" when going through a park, IE trigger lock or pulling the bolt. Just wondering how one would go about "dissabling" a compound bow or slingshot?
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Once again, refer to the legislation.
(4) A person who is in possession of a firearm in a provincial park or recreation area shall ensure that the firearm is unloaded and
(a) in a condition such that the barrel and stock are separated and taken apart, or
(b) completely enclosed in a case or other covering designed for that purpose
unless the person is engaged in an activity in which the discharge of a firearm is allowed under subsection (1.1).
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09-30-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cal
Interesting, for firearms I was told they need to also be "dissabled" when going through a park, IE trigger lock or pulling the bolt. Just wondering how one would go about "dissabling" a compound bow or slingshot?
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Neither trigger lock nor bolt removed qualify as disassembled...the barrel must be removed from the stock to qualify. There is no "also"...it's either unloaded and encased OR disassembled. The same goes for bows.
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09-30-2012
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Join Date: Jun 2012
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i just put my bow in a pillow case and the fish cops have not had a problem with that and i am hunting along hiway 40 with all the parks along there
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10-01-2012
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Join Date: Jun 2010
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encased
I just use a game bag for both my gun or bow depending which i am packing...you need the game bags anyway so i figure why pack extra crap around.
On a side note it really depends which CO you talk to about this. I asked one in K-Country about how you go about disabling a bow and his answer was..."take the quiver off it"...it was all i could do to not laugh out-loud...
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10-01-2012
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Originally Posted by The Sheep Reaper
I just use a game bag for both my gun or bow depending which i am packing...you need the game bags anyway so i figure why pack extra crap around.
On a side note it really depends which CO you talk to about this. I asked one in K-Country about how you go about disabling a bow and his answer was..."take the quiver off it"...it was all i could do to not laugh out-loud... 
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As long as you designed the game bag for covering the bow...you are good to go
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(b) completely enclosed in a case or other covering designed for that purpose
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I've been told string removed is required but again, that was one person's interpretation.
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10-01-2012
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Join Date: Dec 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Sheep Reaper
I just use a game bag for both my gun or bow depending which i am packing...you need the game bags anyway so i figure why pack extra crap around.
On a side note it really depends which CO you talk to about this. I asked one in K-Country about how you go about disabling a bow and his answer was..."take the quiver off it"...it was all i could do to not laugh out-loud... 
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Could put a zip tie around the cables and string....like the stores do so no one pulls them back, could be the equivalent to a trigger lock on a rifle
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10-01-2012
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Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck
Could put a zip tie around the cables and string....like the stores do so no one pulls them back, could be the equivalent to a trigger lock on a rifle
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The law for carrying a firearm in Provincial Park requires disassembled....not disabled.....
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10-01-2012
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Originally Posted by sheephunter
The law for carrying a firearm in Provincial Park requires disassembled....not disabled.....
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I wasn't referring to the law specifically, "The Sheep Reaper" asked about disabling\disabled a bow specifically, and I offered a possible solution to disable it....disassembled is pretty self explanitory, who brought up firearms??
Trigger locks "disable" a firearm...much like a cable/zip tie does wrapped around a bow string and cables.
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10-01-2012
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Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck
I wasn't referring to the law specifically, "The Sheep Reaper" asked about disabling\disabled a bow specifically, and I offered a possible solution to disable it....disassembled is pretty self explanitory, who brought up firearms?.
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I was just pointing out the correct terminology and intent of the law. A lot of people think it's disabled but the law actually reads disassembled....a big difference, especially in the Park ranger's minds..
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10-01-2012
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Join Date: Dec 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sheephunter
I was just pointing out the correct terminology and intent of the law. A lot of people think it's disabled but the law actually reads disassembled....a big difference, especially in the Park ranger's minds..
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Thank you for pointing that out....that wasn't specifically what I was reffering to.
The Sheep Reaper commented about "disabling"...
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10-01-2012
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Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck
Thank you for pointing that out....that wasn't specifically what I was reffering to.
The Sheep Reaper asked about "disabling"....LC
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LOL...actually I don't think he was as he was talking about carrying a bow in K-Country. Lots of people accidentally say diasabled when the law actually reads disassembled. It's a very common twist of words and I'm just pointing this out to clarify the confusion that seems to plague this law and to hopefully help a fellow AOer stay out of bind. There is no legal reason in K-Country to disable a bow but there is a good one to diassemble or encase....
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10-01-2012
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Join Date: Dec 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sheephunter
LOL...actually I don't think he was as he was talking about carrying a bow in K-Country. Lots of people accidentally say diasabled when the law actually reads disassembled. It's a very common twist of words and I'm just pointing this out to clarify the confusion that seems to plague this law and to hopefully help a fellow AOer stay out of bind. There is no legal reason in K-Country to disable a bow but there is a good one to diassemble or encase.... 
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Always doing the right thing TJ....good for you.
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