Would like opinions on .264 cal.

score · #1 10-17-2012

I owned a 6.5x55, really liked it, but sold it in a moment of weakness. I want to buy another .264 and while I realize there is not alot of difference btw. a .260 and 6.5 C.M., I am intrigued by the Creedmoor. I would consider a 6.5x284 but like the idea of a short action and less recoil. Barrel life is of no concern. All opinions appreciated. Thank you. score.

P.S. I will not go with another 6.5x55 this time. Thanks.

Cappy · #2 10-17-2012

I'm a huge fan of the 6.5's. Mild recoil, good ballistics and plenty of punch. I have had as many as 5 in the locker at one time although there are only 3 in there now.

As far as the Creedmoor and .260 Rem compare it's pretty even. As long as you can find brass for the Creedmoor they are really even in all regards. There is a slight edge to the .260 if you are shooting heavy bullets and you are able to seat them long.

score · #3 10-17-2012

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Originally Posted by Cappy

I'm a huge fan of the 6.5's. Mild recoil, good ballistics and plenty of punch. I have had as many as 5 in the locker at one time although there are only 3 in there now.

As far as the Creedmoor and .260 Rem compare it's pretty even. As long as you can find brass for the Creedmoor they are really even in all regards. There is a slight edge to the .260 if you are shooting heavy bullets and you are able to seat them long.

Thanks Cappy. I'll never understand why the 6.5's have never gained much of a following here. I would have thought that the case design of the creed would also allow the longer bullets but maybe I'm wrong there. Also, one fellow had suggested that the 25-06 was in his opinion similar. I still have a 25-06, but not sure if that's true. I was thinking of getting rid of the 25-06.

6.5 shooter · #4 10-17-2012

.260 and the 65.X55 are nearly identical, the 6.5x55 is down loaded in factory rounds due to the amount of weaker surplus military actions out there.

I have own both and would like to buy a few others. LOVE the caliber and it is one of the best calibers out there. One of the best know secrets among those of us in the know.

Buy and enjoy whichever one tickles your fancy....

you can't go wrong.

Lefty-Canuck · #5 10-17-2012

I am having a .260Rem "Improved" made up right now. Being built off of a Defiance Rebel Action (LH of course

). Really excited to get that back so I can start playing with it.

LC

bigshell · #6 10-17-2012

Nuthin quickens the pulse quicker'n mention of a 6.5 sumthin or other.I finally got an action to use to build a 6.5/06 and I'm itchin to get going on it

Cappy · #7 10-17-2012

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Originally Posted by score

Thanks Cappy. I'll never understand why the 6.5's have never gained much of a following here. I would have thought that the case design of the creed would also allow the longer bullets but maybe I'm wrong there. Also, one fellow had suggested that the 25-06 was in his opinion similar. I still have a 25-06, but not sure if that's true. I was thinking of getting rid of the 25-06.

The .260 Rem is slightly larger then the Creedmoor. The Creedmoor is a more efficient case. However if you have a magazine that will allow the .260 Rem to seat the 140's long then the extra case capacity can be taken advantage of. If I was building on a Rem with a factory mag i would go Creedmoor. If I had a Savage or an external mag that allowed seating the bullets out further then I would go .260 Rem.

I was wrong I have 4 6.5's in the locker right now, forgot about the .260AI. Loading up for a 6.5x55 and a .260Rem right now actually, for the trip I leave on this afternoon

As far as the 25-06 goes the bullets aren't as aerodynamic, however inside 500 your splitting hairs.

Rocky7 · #8 10-17-2012

Have you considered the 6.5-06 and 264 Win Mag? Might be worth checking out.

#9 10-17-2012

I just ordered a 6.5 Creedmor for no other reason than it's new and it's intriguing. I'd say the 260AI would be another good option but they are getting to be like belly buttons...everyone has one

I just wanted a very light, short action 6.5 that offered good perfromance out to 600 or so yards and did I mention the Creedmor was new...lol I've only chatted with a copuple actual owners of the Creedmor but it is getting rave reviews from them.

score · #10 10-17-2012

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Originally Posted by 6.5 shooter

.260 and the 65.X55 are nearly identical, the 6.5x55 is down loaded in factory rounds due to the amount of weaker surplus military actions out there.

I have own both and would like to buy a few others. LOVE the caliber and it is one of the best calibers out there. One of the best know secrets among those of us in the know.

Buy and enjoy whichever one tickles your fancy....

you can't go wrong.

Seeing your avatar, I thought about dropping you a PM and was hoping you would reply to my thread. I too LOVE the caliber and am aware of the 6.5x55 issue and the potential of the 6.5's. I wish they weren't such a "secret" and more were common to choose from. It's really Savage, which I like or a build pretty much, although there are a few others if you can find them. Too bad. I don't get why people don't see their virtues. Near or far they just plain kill. My 6.5x55 was a Swedish Mauser that still haunts me. "Stupid is what stupid does". I killed coyotes, deer, and moose with it and it just plain stoned them all. Mine liked the Hornady 139 gr.. Anyhow, yeah, I would love to get rid of some of my guns and get a few 6.5's, one in each. What is your opinion of the Creedmoor and do you have one? Thanks. score..

score · #11 10-17-2012

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Originally Posted by Rocky7

Have you considered the 6.5-06 and 264 Win Mag? Might be worth checking out.

Not really the .264 Win. Mag., but I do have the materials for a 6.5-06 which could be a possibility. I would have to check out the cost of the build. Well, maybe a .264 as well.

Thanks.

#12 10-17-2012

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Originally Posted by score

Not really the .264 Win. Mag., but I do have the materials for a 6.5-06 which could be a possibility. I would have to check out the cost of the build. Well, maybe a .264 as well.

Thanks.

Going with a long action 6.5 just seems wrong. It's a nifty little calibre that deserves a nifty little package. I've been there and done that with the .264....won't go back. Better off with a 7RM at that point I'd say.

score · #13 10-17-2012

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Originally Posted by sheephunter

I just ordered a 6.5 Creedmor for no other reason than it's new and it's intriguing. I'd say the 260AI would be another good option but they are getting to be like belly buttons...everyone has one

I just wanted a very light, short action 6.5 that offered good perfromance out to 600 or so yards and did I mention the Creedmor was new...lol I've only chatted with a copuple actual owners of the Creedmor but it is getting rave reviews from them.

For sure on the Creedmoor. I like the Savage light weight hunter and the reviews have been very good. To me, it's the nicest looking Savage built. The Gun Blast guy said that the cartridge was so efficient that when chronographed even with the 20 inch barrel it lost something like only 60 something fps. Another is the Savage Mod. 12 long range precision with a heavy 26 inch b. and target AT.. Heavy and not really for hunting. So much fun and not enough $. Lets see? You ordered the light weight hunter?

#14 10-17-2012

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Originally Posted by score

For sure on the Creedmoor. I like the Savage light weight hunter and the reviews have been very good. To me, it's the nicest looking Savage built. The Gun Blast guy said that the cartridge was so efficient that when chronographed even with the 20 inch barrel it lost something like only 60 something fps. Another is the Savage Mod. 12 long range precision with a heavy 26 inch b. and target AT.. Heavy and not really for hunting. So much fun and not enough $. Lets see? You ordered the light weight hunter?

No, I'm having a custom built...going with a 21.5" barrel.

score · #15 10-17-2012

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Originally Posted by sheephunter

No, I'm having a custom built...going with a 21.5" barrel.

Sounds nice. Short barrel. Heavy or? I kind of agree on the short action thing BUT?

#16 10-17-2012

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Originally Posted by score

Sounds nice. Short barrel. Heavy or? I kind of agree on the short action thing BUT?

No, haven't decided between a tapered or fluted yet but I want the rifle to come in about 5 3/4 pounds.

shorty · #17 10-17-2012

I have a 6.5x284 very accurate and light recoil. one of my favorites to shoot. I also have a 264 win mag. It has more recoil but still a nice shooting rifle. Both great caliber in my opinion.

Faststeel · #18 10-17-2012

I love my 6.5x55 that is in a Steyr pro hunter. Shoots 140gr beregrs into 1 hole at 100 yards.
A lot of folks have been talking about the 6.5x47 Lapua as being a fantastic round.
I had a 260 rem in a Tikka Varmint rifle a few years ago now and I loved the idea of that rifle, but that damn thing kicked the chit out of me. FS

6.5x47 lapua · #19 10-17-2012

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Originally Posted by score

I owned a 6.5x55, really liked it, but sold it in a moment of weakness. I want to buy another .264 and while I realize there is not alot of difference btw. a .260 and 6.5 C.M., I am intrigued by the Creedmoor. I would consider a 6.5x284 but like the idea of a short action and less recoil. Barrel life is of no concern. All opinions appreciated. Thank you. score.

P.S. I will not go with another 6.5x55 this time. Thanks.

if you handload and want a smaller case than the 260 the best option would be the 6.5x47 lapua.mind you i am biased as i base my builds around lapua brass these days as i dont have much time for brass prep. etc.

score · #20 10-17-2012

I know that being an efficient cartridge, the CM. does well in a short barrel. How about the .260? I know it will lose velocity, but is it very significant? These rifles will be for hunting not long range paper. While not written in stone, I'm leaning toward the CM or .260 at this point. As my son shoots all our guns, I need it to balance well for him and not recoil too much. He just turned 11. Thanks again for any and all further suggestions.

Rocky7 · #21 10-17-2012

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Originally Posted by score

Not really the .264 Win. Mag., but I do have the materials for a 6.5-06 which could be a possibility. I would have to check out the cost of the build. Well, maybe a .264 as well.

Thanks.

A fellow can't hardly own too many guns.

My daughter shot her first deer last year with my .25-06. Dropped like a stone. Not that I'm sayin' you don't need a 6.5....you clearly do. That is a conspicuous hole in your arsenal. Just sayin' the .25-06 could probably tide you over.

260 Rem · #22 10-17-2012

I doubt there would be much difference between the effect of a short barrel between the 260 Rem and the 6.5 CM ..after all, it is the same bullet... being pushed through the same barrel ... with a powder of the same burn rate. I am not personally familliar with the CM, but have several 260's and several 6.5 X 47's which are close to the CM in powder volume (except the 47 uses a small primer). There is little difference between the 260 and the 47 in velocity (probably because the latter, and I suspect the same is true of the CM, operates at higher pressures. But, as always, more powder typically results in more velocity. Accuracy wise, I would give the 47 a bit of an edge over the 260, but it is tough to really tell as so much depends on the barrel and good smith work. As mentioned earlier, the 260's typically have lots of freebore in factory chambers which means that it may favor long bullets ... close to the lands..which may get long for the magazine.

score · #23 10-17-2012

Thanks. Lots of good info. Yes, we do need to fill that 6.5 hole. My son has been shooting .243, 7mm-08, and while I bought a 25-06, it hasn't been shot yet. I bought a .257 WBY., so I figured I could get rid of the .06 and pick up the 6.5. For it to balance well for him, it will have to be short and on the lighter side. Am I correct in assuming that the CM has a little less recoil than the .260 particularly in a light rifle or about the same? I really like the .243 and have a couple. A nice little Rem. for him and think if he gets a 6.5, perhaps I might deserve a .240 WBY for being such a thoughtful Pa. I guess I could keep the 25-06, but seem to be doubling up. .270 could go due to 7-08, etc.. 300 yards is plenty for us and hunting. We play around with a 7mm mag for longer range fun. So, the 6.5 does not have to be for long range, just recoil and the penetration factors. Getting a couple more and getting rid of a couple and we're done. I think. Maybe. Hope so. Gosh kids are expensive. Kids and guns? It was alot easier with the Nerfs. Any more help that you can think of, we would be grateful.