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03-28-2013, 08:46 PM
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HARDY fly reels?
How would you compare the old reels (UK made) to the new reels (Korean made)?
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03-28-2013, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by mtngiant
How would you compare the old reels (UK made) to the new reels (Korean made)?
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Close in quality but not quite as spectacular as say the pre 50's when they where hand made. The older ones are more akin to a fine watch in quality.
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03-28-2013, 09:07 PM
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Thats what i kinda figured Lornce.
I've been monitoring the older ones on ebay but havnt pulled the trigger yet.
How do the older ones compare in weight?
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03-29-2013, 12:09 PM
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Thats what i kinda figured Lornce.
I've been monitoring the older ones on ebay but havnt pulled the trigger yet.
How do the older ones compare in weight?
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Always a bit heavier but I like them better for balance. Nicer than the tinny new brands that look like a hub cap.
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03-29-2013, 12:13 PM
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Always a bit heavier but I like them better for balance. Nicer than the tinny new brands that look like a hub cap.
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Yes the hardy's do look tinny. No wonder they are having a tuff time in the market place. pity.
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03-29-2013, 02:45 PM
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Yes the hardy's do look tinny. No wonder they are having a tuff time in the market place. pity.
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Wasn't talking about Hardy's but other brands with "bling" but no subsance
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03-29-2013, 08:15 PM
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There is all that new disposable stuff.
And then there is Hardy. With those geezer pawls that keep working like the battery bunny.
I hate to say it, but the new Korean stuff is smoother than than the old English stuff.
Why? Those Korean guys are years ahead in their CNC production requiring shorter hand finishing time.
China is a different story.
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03-29-2013, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by greylynx
There is all that new disposable stuff.
And then there is Hardy. With those geezer pawls that keep working like the battery bunny.
I hate to say it, but the new Korean stuff is smoother than than the old English stuff.
Why? Those Korean guys are years ahead in their CNC production requiring shorter hand finishing time.
China is a different story.
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Have you used the new Hardy's?
Or maybe know someone that has one that makes you say this?
Im curious cause I am in the hunt for a Hardy but have never used one.
Just not sure if new or old is the best option?
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03-29-2013, 09:47 PM
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I have a hardy ultralite dd 4000 and love it. Wasnt to fond of the fact its made over seas, but it has exceeded my expectations so far. Its pretty to look at too.
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03-29-2013, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by mtngiant
Have you used the new Hardy's?
Or maybe know someone that has one that makes you say this?
Im curious cause I am in the hunt for a Hardy but have never used one.
Just not sure if new or old is the best option?
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New stuff is the best. I will not argue. But if you like classic stuff, Hardy has not forgotten you.
Norm, the Cabalas flyfishing wizard at the Edmonton store, convinced the Winnipeg bosses to bring in some of the classic Hardy line. Some of his machinist type customers who work with Mikes to one half in thousand speak very highy of the new reels. Even though they are made in south Korea.
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03-29-2013, 09:57 PM
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I have a hardy ultralite dd 4000 and love it. Wasnt to fond of the fact its made over seas, but it has exceeded my expectations so far. Its pretty to look at too.
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Nice
And yes...they are kinda sexy too hahaha
Do the new ones have a heavy click sound or light and hard to hear?
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03-29-2013, 10:57 PM
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its not as loud as original hardy's but its got 2 spring clickers. like most reels nowadays.
it fits nicely on my boron IIMX.....
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03-29-2013, 11:48 PM
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2 plastic spring clickers? Or is it just the cc that uses plastic?
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03-30-2013, 12:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mtngiant
How would you compare the old reels (UK made) to the new reels (Korean made)?
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Originally Posted by Lornce
Close in quality but not quite as spectacular as say the pre 50's when they where hand made. The older ones are more akin to a fine watch in quality.
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I'd say functionally and aesthetically they are near equal,the QC is still what you'd expect from Hardy and without any further endorsement neccesary,it's a Hardy for chrissakes!!Only slight difference I'd say is from a collectable standpoint,it stands to reason that an Alnwick original is more desirable.
There's countless new,high quality/high-end reels in todays market,some will make it,most won't....but you cant go wrong buying a Hardy IMHO,either your grandson will fish it someday or you can sell it 30 years from now for more than you paid today if you take care of it?
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03-30-2013, 08:33 AM
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I have a few New Hardy's, and quite a few classic's so can see side by side and my classics win. Mind you the New Hardy''s are still in my opinion a cut above many other brands. A lot are made to satisfy our "disposable" society and that's fine also but not to my particular taste. There are a number of other brands I love such as some Loop products and a few reels hand made by small manufacturers. But few like Hardy has stood the test of time. I have reels that have fly fished through 3 generations, ready for a forth and still perform like champs, wonder how many other brands will be able to boat of that.
This is a new "Made in England" Hardy.
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03-30-2013, 09:45 AM
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Lornce- Nothing personal but that Hardy looks tinny. It may be a great reel and I hope looks are deceiving. Which reel with the same price point looks tinny to you?
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Lornce- Nothing personal but that Hardy looks tinny. It may be a great reel and I hope looks are deceiving. Which reel with the same price point looks tinny to you?
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Pics don't do it justice,that Perfect is solid as a rock and has been in production virtually unchanged for 120 years.
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03-30-2013, 03:32 PM
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Yabut I don't care what y'all say, I still like my Islanders
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03-30-2013, 06:10 PM
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Pics don't do it justice,that Perfect is solid as a rock and has been in production virtually unchanged for 120 years.
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Anyone own a Silex?
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03-30-2013, 06:16 PM
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Have a couple. They make a nice Spey reel.
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Often I have been exhausted on trout streams, uncomfortable, wet, cold, briar scarred, sunburned, mosquito bitten,
but never, with a fly rod in my hand have I been in a place that was less than beautiful.
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03-30-2013, 06:17 PM
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Yabut I don't care what y'all say, I still like my Islanders
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Excellent reel also.
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03-30-2013, 08:37 PM
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Yabut I don't care what y'all say, I still like my Islanders
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Same and have 4.
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The most expensive Hardy reel I have seen is going for $8000
Now thats gotta make a statement!!!
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03-31-2013, 09:00 AM
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How would you compare the old reels (UK made) to the new reels (Korean made)?
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Back to the original topic by the poster, although the Classic Hardy’s are an exceptionally fine reel and sought after by collectors. The problem is the price of them is starting to soar. Don’t be afraid of picking up a new one for fishing, the Korean standards are high and they are great reels. They have also reissued many of the classics and are manufacturing them in England again.
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[QUOTE=Lornce;1910628]Back to the original topic by the poster, although the Classic Hardy’s are an exceptionally fine reel and sought after by collectors. The problem is the price of them is starting to soar. Don’t be afraid of picking up a new one for fishing, the Korean standards are high and they are great reels. They have also reissued many of the classics and are manufacturing them in England again.[/QUOTE]
This is great news....thanks for letting us know
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[QUOTE=mtngiant;1910658]
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Back to the original topic by the poster, although the Classic Hardy’s are an exceptionally fine reel and sought after by collectors. The problem is the price of them is starting to soar. Don’t be afraid of picking up a new one for fishing, the Korean standards are high and they are great reels. They have also reissued many of the classics and are manufacturing them in England again.[/QUOTE]
This is great news....thanks for letting us know
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Yeah the English built Perfect starts at about $900 CDN. I believe they build the Perfect and St. George in England. When they switched over to Korean manufacturing, during the uproar from the Traditional Purists it was admitted that the fit and finish of the Korean manufactured reels was superior to the latter day English built reels.
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03-31-2013, 12:34 PM
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Just picked up another Hardy. Do I feel bad!
Ya' right.
Don
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03-31-2013, 02:35 PM
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New or classic?
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03-31-2013, 04:43 PM
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Taco,
Apparently the gal has been previously used. Some slack around the spindle. Still, it gives me another back-up to my lake set-ups.
Will get shipped next week.
Don
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03-31-2013, 05:07 PM
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Aint nutn quite like a bright Atlantic or Steelhead chromer on a hellbent sizzling run,well into the backing of a singing Hardy....music to my ears,that IS THE SOUND of flyfishing!!!
http://www.free-ringtones.cc/iphone/...m.php?id=38628
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