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06-14-2013, 09:32 PM
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Actually...?
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Originally Posted by pesky672
Just about every city that is located along the coast does.
By comparisson Victoria is pretty darn small and the currents work in their favour.
Not sure why you singled out one very small city when there are much better examples that you could have used.
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There are no better examples of environmental hypocrisy. The residents of greater Victoria have elected the only "Green" MP (federally) and the only "Green" MLA (provincially) that exist in Canada. Yet they consistently resist the cost of treating their crap before they pump it out into a huge dead (now, due to the poop and related substances) zone in the Juan De Fuca Strait. There are other examples, yes, but none with a greater lack of justification and hypocrisy. It doesn't matter what the "currents" are - it is a mega amount of toxic crap being pumped directly into the ocean!! It is not a "small" amount at all - it is from a metropolitan area of 300,000 + people.
Amazing how the municipal authorities can talk out of both sides of their mouth when it comes to this (?). It is appalling, unjustified, and unnecessary in any context of modern government. I would love to see how E. May really thinks about this atrocious example of environmental irresponsibility. Or does that only apply to "conservative" ridings?
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06-14-2013, 09:48 PM
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There are no better examples of environmental hypocrisy. The residents of greater Victoria have elected the only "Green" MP (federally) and the only "Green" MLA (provincially) that exist in Canada. Yet they consistently resist the cost of treating their crap before they pump it out into a huge dead (now, due to the poop and related substances) zone in the Juan De Fuca Strait. There are other examples, yes, but none with a greater lack of justification and hypocrisy. It doesn't matter what the "currents" are - it is a mega amount of toxic crap being pumped directly into the ocean!! It is not a "small" amount at all - it is from a metropolitan area of 300,000 + people.
Amazing how the municipal authorities can talk out of both sides of their mouth when it comes to this (?). It is appalling, unjustified, and unnecessary in any context of modern government. I would love to see how E. May really thinks about this atrocious example of environmental irresponsibility. Or does that only apply to "conservative" ridings?
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Right.
Well I suppose they'd probably be able to afford it if they weren't supplimenting every old fart in Canada that retires there.
The cost is prohibitive.
That is why nobody does it.
Its not as simple as just building a waste treatement plant.
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06-14-2013, 09:51 PM
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Its actually easier than that they just have to part with some of their precious real estate lagoons are very effective or a plant with very little footprint can achieve phenomenal water quality
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06-14-2013, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Dog hunter
Its actually easier than that they just have to part with some of their precious real estate lagoons are very effective
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Sure... they just have to dig up and re-route half the pipe in the city...thats all...
Toronato has a nice setup though.
Tertiary treatment that leaves them with a growing waterfront and a source of revenue for the city.
Victoria could take a lesson from TO.
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06-14-2013, 10:10 PM
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Sure... they just have to dig up and re-route half the pipe in the city...thats all...
Toronato has a nice setup though.
Tertiary treatment that leaves them with a growing waterfront and a source of revenue for the city.
Victoria could take a lesson from TO.
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Catch it at the discharge and pump it where ever they like
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06-14-2013, 10:47 PM
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Porcelin throne discharge to the sea! Any way you smell it... It's just plain crappy.
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06-16-2013, 03:01 AM
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Catch it at the discharge and pump it where ever they like
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Through what?
Pipes... once again requiring some significant excavation.
Victoria isn't Alberta... its built on a big freaking rock,
So you go overland and up a significant grade to a facility built on some scrap of land miles away and hopefully not too near a salmon stream... then pump it back for discharge or... you start trying to scratch through a lot of rock.
Trust me... I'm pretty familiar with Victorias water and sewar system.
Its a big issue there...people want it but there are some very large hurdles in the way.
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06-16-2013, 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Dog hunter
Catch it at the discharge and pump it where ever they like
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Through what?
Pipes... once again requiring some significant excavation.
Victoria isn't Alberta... its built on a big freaking rock,
So you go overland and up a significant grade to a facility built on some scrap of land miles away and hopefully not too near a salmon stream... then pump it back for discharge or... you start trying to scratch through a lot of rock.
Trust me... I'm pretty familiar with Victorias water and sewar system.
Its a big issue there...people want it but there are some very large hurdles in the way.
In the mean time they are struggling just trying to maintain an adequate fresh water supply and the old pipes and valves.
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06-16-2013, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by pesky672
Through what?
Pipes... once again requiring some significant excavation.
Victoria isn't Alberta... its built on a big freaking rock,
So you go overland and up a significant grade to a facility built on some scrap of land miles away and hopefully not too near a salmon stream... then pump it back for discharge or... you start trying to scratch through a lot of rock.
Trust me... I'm pretty familiar with Victorias water and sewar system.
Its a big issue there...people want it but there are some very large hurdles in the way.
In the mean time they are struggling just trying to maintain an adequate fresh water supply and the old pipes and valves.
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Yeah I understand and it is extremely frustrating I have worked in a few small towns and big cities this country's infrastructure is falling apart it is the cause of all my stress and grey hair,quality is job one for me,directors hate me,councillors fear me but I cant do it anymore,5 more days and I can burn all my certification,what a waste but my mental health is more important(whats left anyway)dont let this scare anyone drinking water quality is job one for all operators i have met but we're burning out 
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06-16-2013, 03:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Dog hunter
Catch it at the discharge and pump it where ever they like
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Through what?
Pipes... once again requiring some significant excavation.
Victoria isn't Alberta... its built on a big freaking rock,
So you go overland and up a significant grade to a facility built on some scrap of land miles away and hopefully not too near a salmon stream... then pump it back for discharge or... you start trying to scratch through a lot of rock.
Trust me... I'm pretty familiar with Victorias water and sewer system.
Its a big issue there...people want it but there are some very large hurdles in the way.
In the mean time they are struggling just trying to maintain an adequate fresh water supply and the old pipes and valves.
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06-16-2013, 06:23 AM
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They barge the garbage out & dump it the chuck as well.
Few years ago the co. that did this got charged for dumping too close.
Must have been trying to save fuel ? Rough waters ?
Never did hear (read) the reasons.
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06-16-2013, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by pesky672
Through what?
Pipes... once again requiring some significant excavation.
Victoria isn't Alberta... its built on a big freaking rock,
So you go overland and up a significant grade to a facility built on some scrap of land miles away and hopefully not too near a salmon stream... then pump it back for discharge or... you start trying to scratch through a lot of rock.
Trust me... I'm pretty familiar with Victorias water and sewer system.
Its a big issue there...people want it but there are some very large hurdles in the way.
In the mean time they are struggling just trying to maintain an adequate fresh water supply and the old pipes and valves.
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You seem pretty defensive about Victoria, perhaps you are ashamed of their poor environmental practices.
Plans to treat the sewage are underway and costs look to be around $800 million, with $500 coming from government. You acted like it was an impossible task but its happening.
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06-14-2013, 09:53 PM
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Raw sewage pipeline
We wanted to send it to alberta back through the pipe line that is still under discussion.I think it would be way better than pumping it into the ocean
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06-14-2013, 09:55 PM
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I was just thinking the exact same thing. 
(what 444 said)
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06-14-2013, 09:58 PM
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We wanted to send it to alberta back through the pipe line that is still under discussion.I think it would be way better than pumping it into the ocean
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1st....you need to speak concisely to make a point.
2nd....Im from Chilliwack
3rd...you cant stop the influx of garbage no matter where you live...unless your a politician...which most if not all on AOF are NOT!!!
4th....the world is beyond saving....and dats a fact
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06-14-2013, 11:03 PM
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Right.
Well I suppose they'd probably be able to afford it if they weren't supplimenting every old fart in Canada that retires there.
The cost is prohibitive.
That is why nobody does it.
Its not as simple as just building a waste treatement plant.
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What a bunch of peasants. Good job Victoria, your sewage system is comparable to that of Bangladesh.
The only big cities in Canada that flush raw sewage into the oceans are Victoria, Montreal, Halifax , and St. John's. the latter two have treatment centre about to open.
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06-14-2013, 11:09 PM
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Actually I think the one in St John's is up and running. When I was home last summer I don't remember the smell and the flocks if gulls that used it as a smorgos board of tastey treats
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06-14-2013, 11:13 PM
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Victoria is giving Canada a bad reputation. Trying to drag us into 3rd world conditions.
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06-14-2013, 11:23 PM
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That reminds me......What's happening on the west coast with all that s**t that is floating over from Japan?
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06-15-2013, 07:32 AM
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That reminds me......What's happening on the west coast with all that s**t that is floating over from Japan?
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Saw nothing extra when fishing.
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06-16-2013, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by leeaspell
Actually I think the one in St John's is up and running. When I was home last summer I don't remember the smell and the flocks if gulls that used it as a smorgos board of tastey treats
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Yes, St John's and surrounding municipalities sewage water is treated.
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