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Old 03-01-2014, 02:14 PM
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So you believe the world is 6000 years old ?.
I think it is 6-10 thousand years old yes.
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Old 03-01-2014, 02:32 PM
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I think it is 6-10 thousand years old yes.
There is no help for you. But your entitled to your opinion just keep it out of my children's schools so they can learn important things.
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Old 03-01-2014, 03:19 PM
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There is no help for you. But your entitled to your opinion just keep it out of my children's schools so they can learn important things.
Like? How to have anal sex? How we are monkeys? How the government is good? How to hate others?
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Old 03-01-2014, 03:37 PM
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Like? How to have anal sex? How we are monkeys? How the government is good? How to hate others?
Who says we are monkeys ?

Religion does a fine job on teaching people how to hate each other.
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Old 03-01-2014, 03:44 PM
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What do the believers think it's ok to sell your daughter into slavery ?

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And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do.

I have a daughter and I would fight with my life that she never be a slave, This is the moral book you speak of ? I say it's rubbish and should be looked at with contempt.
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Old 03-01-2014, 03:55 PM
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What do the believers think it's ok to sell your daughter into slavery ?

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And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do.

I have a daughter and I would fight with my life that she never be a slave, This is the moral book you speak of ? I say it's rubbish and should be looked at with contempt.
Many people, such as yourself, have a problem with the context of the bible. The term slavery used in the bible does not equate with the "slave trade". According to Old Testament law, anyone caught selling another person into slavery was to be executed. "He who kidnaps a man, whether he sells him or he is found in his possession, shall surely be put to death." So again, you're cherry-picky of verses and subverting their meaning is refuted. Every man, woman and child is becoming more enslaved by our governments. Many believe they cannot survive without government handouts. This is the slavery the bible talks of.
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Many people, such as yourself, have a problem with the context of the bible. The term slavery used in the bible does not equate with the "slave trade". According to Old Testament law, anyone caught selling another person into slavery was to be executed. "He who kidnaps a man, whether he sells him or he is found in his possession, shall surely be put to death." So again, you're cherry-picky of verses and subverting their meaning is refuted. Every man, woman and child is becoming more enslaved by our governments. Many believe they cannot survive without government handouts. This is the slavery the bible talks of.
I'm not cherry picking anything I posted exactly how it's said. now your making excuses for it and saying it's now how it sounds.

how about the second commandment then do you wear a cross and look at pictures of Jesus ?
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Old 03-01-2014, 04:35 PM
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What do the believers think it's ok to sell your daughter into slavery ?

King James Bible

And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do.

I have a daughter and I would fight with my life that she never be a slave, This is the moral book you speak of ? I say it's rubbish and should be looked at with contempt.


Really?
I thought you had this answered on another thread?

Many scholars, both believers and secular have studied the texts and put most of the stories into an historical context. I am far from being a scholar but let me explain this text in modern day language.

In the old Bible days there were not too many places where young people could be employed. In the old Bible days families like families today often had trouble making ends meet. Like today a solution to this was to this let family members hire out to others. Today the children would work at McDonald to help out. In the old Bible days the children would work for the wealthy. In the old Bible days, some householders sold their entire household into servitude or hired them out. These servants, and the King Jimmie translates them to be slaves, were often house slaves and not field slaves. Young girls often became the personal servant of the lady of the house and enjoyed the best that the rich family had to offer. Read the book a bit. You will notice that the patriarch Abraham had a servant that he intrusted to be his right hand man and if good old Abe would never had children, this slave was to be his heir. It's in the book. If you read the book a bit and not cherry pick you may find the part on how to deal with a slave who does not want to be free after his/her time of servitude is over.

We do not call it slavery but the poor today work for the rich. In my opinion, the masters of slaves from the old eastern culture treated their salves better than the minimum wage empires of today.

Only the uneducated people today, believe the term we call slavery today literally existed and was the same type of slavery that you referred to in your text.

BTW the so called authorized version of the Bible, that we know as the King James Version has lots of mistakes in translation and very few scholars both Christian and secular think it is the most accurate translation of the ancient texts.

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What do the believers think it's ok to sell your daughter into slavery ?

King James Bible

And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do.

I have a daughter and I would fight with my life that she never be a slave, This is the moral book you speak of ? I say it's rubbish and should be looked at with contempt.
You clearly do not understand the context in which this was written.
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You clearly do not understand the context in which this was written.
Sure it's out of content just like all the other passages you don't follow.
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