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05-08-2014, 04:57 PM
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Sheep river question
Would you eat a fish out of the Sheep River (it flows through Okatokes)
I here the fish migrate to the bow river so.....i wouldnt eat one outa the bow....
Maybe above the falls the fish would be better eating?
I dont wanna eat contaminated fish.....If i asked this questions b4 im sorry ...i cant find my old post if i did.
Thanks all
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05-08-2014, 05:09 PM
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Sheep River & tributaries
from headwaters downstream to the bridge at Indian Oils Day-use Site
June 16 to Oct. 31 – Trout limit 0; Bait Ban.
Nov. 1 to June 15 – CLOSED
from bridge at Indian Oils Day-use site downstream to Gorge Creek and tributaries (except Gorge Creek) - CLOSED
from Gorge Creek downstream to Highwood River – River only
June 16 to Aug. 31 – Trout limit 2; Cutthroat and Rainbow over 35 cm; Mountain Whitefish limit 5 over 30 cm; Maggots are the only bait allowed and only after Aug. 15.
Sept. 1 to Oct. 31 – Trout limit 0; Mountain Whitefish limit 5 over 30 cm; Maggots are the only bait allowed.
Nov. 1 to June 15 – CLOSED
If I'm right about which "falls" you are talking about, you can't take any fish out of there to eat. In areas you can, I'd eat the fish (well maybe not right around the okotoks sewage treatment plant), though I never have. Any fish I've ever caught on the sheep I've released.
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05-08-2014, 05:10 PM
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What's wrong with fish from the Bow? The consumption advisory doesn't say you can't eat them.
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05-08-2014, 05:14 PM
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ok sorry i mean fishing and eating them below okatokes.....and ive seen real bad crap in the bow....noway id eat one....lol
so are the fish in the shhep ok to eat? i dont need regulations.....
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05-08-2014, 05:18 PM
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they'd probably be better than any radioactive pacific salmon right now...
you think the sheep is dirty? pfffft, take a look at the oceans.
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05-08-2014, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by happyfisher
ok sorry i mean fishing and eating them below okatokes.....and ive seen real bad crap in the bow....noway id eat one....lol
so are the fish in the shhep ok to eat? i dont need regulations.....
thanks
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05-08-2014, 06:39 PM
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the water that comes out of sewage plants is devoid of anything other then nitrogen. it gathers rain water and runoff just like any other stream. any river here is cleaner then the ocean anyway and especially farmed salmon.
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05-08-2014, 07:29 PM
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really so u would eat a fish out of the bow? gross.....the fish in the sheep spend most of their lives in the bow.....jezz....dunno
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05-08-2014, 07:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by happyfisher
really so u would eat a fish out of the bow? gross.....the fish in the sheep spend most of their lives in the bow.....jezz....dunno
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What makes Bow fish inedible?
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05-08-2014, 07:58 PM
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all the condoms...tampons..(seen them both)....cfc's (they almost shut down bow lake years ago it was so toxic) in-solubles like small pieces of plastic....everything u see on the street......gasoline/oil......i could go on and on.....
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05-08-2014, 08:13 PM
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Every body of water in this province has stuff like that in it from time to time. I wouldn't be too worried about up the Sheep. But each to his own.
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05-08-2014, 08:36 PM
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I have and they taste no different from any other trout I've eaten. I ve never seen a trout with codons or tampon in its gut though.
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05-08-2014, 08:44 PM
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I ve never seen a trout with codons or tampon in its gut though.
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If you had, I would have a few ideas for some interesting new flies. LOL
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05-08-2014, 09:48 PM
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Good reference information about the water quality of the Bow.
Become a keeper.
http://brk.kobblefish.com/issues/pollution
An excerpt from above link:
"Samples taken at the headwaters contain pesticides and persistent organic pollutants such as PCBs and DDT — these contaminants are also found in the resident fish. These pollutants leach into Bow Lake from glaciers that contain a legacy of long-range atmospheric transport of pollution from around the world"
Here's a good informative read. The 2010 report on the state of the whole watershed and individual sub basins including sheep river.
http://www.environment.gov.ab.ca/info/library/8298.pdf
Last edited by Red Bullets; 05-08-2014 at 10:00 PM.
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05-08-2014, 10:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flieguy
they'd probably be better than any radioactive pacific salmon right now...
you think the sheep is dirty? pfffft, take a look at the oceans.
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Latest study on pacific Salmon shows no noticble increase since the issues in Japan.
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05-08-2014, 10:20 PM
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red bullets got it right.....thats what im scared of
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05-09-2014, 12:23 AM
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red bullets got it right.....thats what im scared of
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Don't be scared of eating a fish or two. I would be more worried about driving down QE II or Hwy. 1 to get to your fishing hole.
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05-09-2014, 03:09 PM
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really so u would eat a fish out of the bow? gross.....
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Why? Trout is best indicator of water contamination, they disappear if water is contaminated. Since Bow is full of different species of trout I assume it is safe to eat.
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05-09-2014, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by happyfisher
all the condoms...tampons..(seen them both)....cfc's (they almost shut down bow lake years ago it was so toxic) in-solubles like small pieces of plastic....everything u see on the street......gasoline/oil......i could go on and on.....
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All the years I have fished the bow and it is many both above and below Carsland I have never seen anything like you are suggesting. Even when the Esso refinery was still there you never saw any of that stuff floating anywhere.
While I adhere to catch and release I have eaten trout from the Bow with no issues what so ever. And no even back in the day they did not taste like oil.
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05-09-2014, 06:27 PM
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a fish might TASTE ok....a burger laced with arsenic might taste ok....dosnt mean its good for you.....even in small amounts of toxins they add up....
well anyway i guess eat want u want...lol.....
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05-09-2014, 06:53 PM
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I commented on water quality earlier but fish quality....
Looking at the advisories on MyWildAlberta.com most of the warnings are based on eating one or more portions a week. That is 52 times a year before there is a toxicity concern. To eat one of two fresh caught trout in a season can't be lethal. If two fish are lethal, that person was meant to be thinned out of the herd.
http://mywildalberta.com/fishing/Saf...nAdvisory.aspx
No advisories on sheep creek or upper bow.
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05-09-2014, 08:45 PM
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If there are PCBs and DDT that far upstream every stream is contaminated. You and I and almost everything alive has those already in our system. I will enjoy the occasional fish from the bow. Well that is if I could catch one small enough to eat.
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05-09-2014, 09:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Bullets
Good reference information about the water quality of the Bow.
Become a keeper.
http://brk.kobblefish.com/issues/pollution
An excerpt from above link:
"Samples taken at the headwaters contain pesticides and persistent organic pollutants such as PCBs and DDT — these contaminants are also found in the resident fish. These pollutants leach into Bow Lake from glaciers that contain a legacy of long-range atmospheric transport of pollution from around the world"
Here's a good informative read. The 2010 report on the state of the whole watershed and individual sub basins including sheep river.
http://www.environment.gov.ab.ca/info/library/8298.pdf
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If you follow this argument there is no safe fresh water on the planet. Even rain and snow are subject to contamination from environmental sources. Also might want to consider that most of that glacier ice they talk about is several thousand years old.
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05-10-2014, 12:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams
If you follow this argument there is no safe fresh water on the planet. Even rain and snow are subject to contamination from environmental sources. Also might want to consider that most of that glacier ice they talk about is several thousand years old.
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I agree totally. A person can't escape pollution anywhere on the planet. We can only adapt at this stage.
I posted these links so people can be more informed as to just what alot of people's efforts have established about the Bow watershed.
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05-10-2014, 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by happyfisher
all the condoms...tampons..(seen them both)....cfc's (they almost shut down bow lake years ago it was so toxic) in-solubles like small pieces of plastic....everything u see on the street......gasoline/oil......i could go on and on.....
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You drink the water out of there
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05-10-2014, 04:05 PM
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lol
lol jimboys a little messed up.....no we drink out of glenmore....and the water is treated.....lol
and yes some contamination is in most waters....its just the bow has LOTS more than a creek from a mountain stream...but hey its a free country....if u wanna eat a fish swimming by a needle and a tampon its ur right.
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