February suffield cow elk quota hunt - Page 5

WilsonMS · #**121** 12-12-2014, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by TBark

Some people posting here seem familiar with the lay of the land on the base.
What do you guys feel the success rate would be for the Feb hunt ? 50-75% of tags filled ?
Are some of the access roads near the base perimeter ?
As that seems to be where the elk travel would be according to some of the landowners bordering the base.
Would that be a strategy to considder, hang in the fringe of base boundary and private land ?

TBark

Read the thread called Suffield Base Hunt 2014. The link is in my post above.

The 3 fall hunts tagged out. My only concern for the Feb hunt is that they follow 3 weeks of Jan hunting seasons previously drawn per normal draw process. The heard could be pretty spooked from getting shot up in Jan and move off base for the Feb hunts.

Bushmaster · #**122** 12-12-2014, 10:47 AM

Freezers are cheap.......

elkhunter1234 · #**123** 12-12-2014, 10:56 AM

With all the oil and gas activity that go on in the base hunting area I would imagine the roads should be keep open for the most part. Sure hoping to get drawn as I'm sure between the kids and me a couple nice young calfs would look good in the freezer.. We hunted on the first hunt on the base in 2012 and had a blast, would be nice to get in there and see some of those Bulls again.
Fingers are crossed for a bull season on the base next fall.

Jim..

Jamie Black R/T · #**124** 12-12-2014, 11:01 AM

sure would be nice to get another chance at something for the freezer...all my fall tags sure look pretty up on the tree but the kids are HUNGRY lol

Not gonna hold my breath....about same odds as pulling a bison tag with the publicity this is getting.

snowman160 · #**125** 12-12-2014, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Jamie Black R/T

sure would be nice to get another chance at something for the freezer...all my fall tags sure look pretty up on the tree but the kids are HUNGRY lol

Not gonna hold my breath....about same odds as pulling a bison tag with the publicity this is getting.

Couldn't have said it better..chances of getting drawn will be in the single digit percentages I'm thinkin..everybody's all excited thinkin their gone get the draw lol best of luck to all I guess!

elkhunter1234 · #**126** 12-12-2014, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Jamie

This is about Will, not me. Any chance I can get out with him I will. He us 13 years old and loves to hunt.

Me.. I am 45 and love to watch him hunt.

Jamie

After seeing young Willy roll that Antelope last year I would hate to be the elk he decided to put the crosshairs on if he pulls a tag.
Maybe time to pay the big bucks and get one of those Shaw Super Servers agin.. Lol.. That one still cracks me up when I thing about it.. You had guys wanting to string you up alive..

Jim..

Jamie · #**127** 12-12-2014, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by elkhunter1234

After seeing young Willy roll that Antelope last year I would hate to be the elk he decided to put the crosshairs on if he pulls a tag.
Maybe time to pay the big bucks and get one of those Shaw Super Servers agin.. Lol.. That one still cracks me up when I thing about it.. You had guys wanting to string you up alive..

Jim..

That Antelope hunting with you, Willy and Dad was pure awesome!
One of the best memories I have.

As for the "Super Server" I wish I could find that thread. Your right some guys did want to string me up. My best joke ever on this board.

Jamie

Cory1 · #**128** 12-12-2014, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by abhunter8

If you can't use the meat, don't go on the hunt, let someone else go that wants to go and can use the meat please.

And I'm the opposite could definitely use the meat, but not 100% if I can afford the time off on short notice if drawn.

BDAJ · #**129** 12-12-2014, 01:10 PM

Couple questions, Will cows be pregnant? And would Bulls have lost their head gear by then?

Lefty-Canuck · #**130** 12-12-2014, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BDAJ

Couple questions, Will cows be pregnant? And would Bulls have lost their head gear by then?

Yes if they bred, no they should still have antlers.

LC

BDAJ · #**131** 12-12-2014, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

Yes if they bred, no they should still have antlers.

LC

Thanks LC. Just wasn't too sure on the length of pregnancy for Elk. Figured that would be the case though.

Lefty-Canuck · #**132** 12-12-2014, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BDAJ

Thanks LC. Just wasn't too sure on the length of pregnancy for Elk. Figured that would be the case though.

Typically they breed in August-October calves are born in the springtime. Antlers tend to fall March-April time frame.....these are "in general" time frames.

LC

jbrow397 · #**133** 12-12-2014, 02:11 PM

What is hunting like, on the base? Is it foot access only? Quads allowed? What is the terrain like? Snow cover in Feb?

If there is a good site that covers these general info, would some mind linking it?

Thanks,

Jason

Flatlandliver · #**134** 12-12-2014, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrow397

What is hunting like, on the base? Is it foot access only? Quads allowed? What is the terrain like? Snow cover in Feb?

If there is a good site that covers these general info, would some mind linking it?

Thanks,

Jason

No quads, drive the roads and glass. Stalk when you spot something. Rolling grassland for the most part..

recce43 · #**135** 12-12-2014, 02:27 PM

rolling grassland great tank country

Big Sky · #**136** 12-12-2014, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Flatlandliver

No quads, drive the roads and glass. Stalk when you spot something. Rolling grassland for the most part..

Are the roads maintained in winter?

Add a couple of feet of snow to your picture and it would be some tough driving.

Flatlandliver · #**137** 12-12-2014, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Sky

Are the roads maintained in winter?

Add a couple of feet of snow to your picture and it would be some tough driving.

That pic was Dec.14th last year. From what guys who are on the base are posting, roads have been maintained though.
Either that or maybe Recce has some equipment for rent! A tank ride would be cool.

recce43 · #**138** 12-12-2014, 02:45 PM

some of the rds are plowed most of the rds are tank tracks rough and full of holes like rattlesnake road but there are lease roads on the base and primeter rd is good

220swifty · #**139** 12-12-2014, 02:51 PM

I was excited for a couple minutes. Then I remembered my wife is due with our second on February 14. Quickly kyboshed.

Flatlandliver · #**140** 12-12-2014, 02:53 PM

A calf sled might be a pretty good tool to bring.

recce43 · #**141** 12-12-2014, 03:20 PM

there are 1346kms of roads in vary degree of shape
268 kms of firbreaks
395kmsof fence line

Flatlandliver · #**142** 12-12-2014, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by recce43

there are 1346kms of roads in vary degree of shape
268 kms of firbreaks
395kmsof fence line

That, and a billion elk.

brobinson · #**143** 12-12-2014, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Leafy

Very good news, but still not enough to control this herd.. No one seems to want to tackle the issues of costs ? I ask because I care and my concerns should be shared by all passionate people in our group..

Is millions of dollars a fair trade off for an opportunity hunt ? Can anyone answer as to where this mysterious money has come from ?

Another big concern will be the dynamics we are creating by removing mainly cows and only a small percentage of bulls.. This fiasco has been a game of catch up and really not a strong biological effort to follow proven management practices.

I loose so much faith in ESRD and the future of our heritage when I think of the elk at CFB.

1800 elk out of a herd of even 10000, that's 18% of the herd. That's a pretty good start as far as a population control goes.

On to your ideas about why they are only allowing cow tags. The only way to control a herd of animals is to remove the females. If there are less females to be bred, that directly translates into less calves being born. If it were bull tags being handed out, it would not affect the overall number, the rest of the bulls in the herd would just breed more cows.

The only thing I have a question about is what are you getting at in the terms of mystery money? What here is costing millions of dollars?

winger7mm · #**144** 12-12-2014, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

The rules as set forth are not confusing as all....just try not to read into them so much.

125 Hunters, 2 tags each, no partners....put in with 2 per application max. Will not affect other draws or priorities. Fill your tags and your freezers. Follow the rules set out by the base....simple.

Before you put in for the draw consider the location and if you will actually attend....if not don't apply.

LC

I know its super easy to get but..... From what I understand, it is 1 license per application. The license gives you 2 tags, the application can have 2 hunters. Do they give out 1 license for both or do they give out 1 license per hunter on the app???

Would I be able to apply as primary and have my bud as secondary. Then have my buddy apply on his own, or with me as a secondary?? Seems to me I would rather have 1 app go in then invite my buddy to help if I get it and vise-versa.

waterninja · #**145** 12-12-2014, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Flatlandliver

No quads, drive the roads and glass. Stalk when you spot something. Rolling grassland for the most part..

Love that pic. I wonder if that sign would be more effective for landowners who are upset with people ignoring thier no trespassing or no hunting signs.

Freerider · #**146** 12-12-2014, 09:31 PM

Would really like to put in for this I put in for the earlier hunts but wasn't drawn. I have also been completely unsuccessful so far this year nothing in the freezer I have one more day on my Wainwright hunt here's hoping. I just really don't think I can get time off work torn on wether to put in for it won't know if I can time off until I try and no point trying to get time off unless I get drawn quite the conundrum.

stickflicker · #**147** 12-12-2014, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by winger7mm

I know its super easy to get but..... From what I understand, it is 1 license per application. The license gives you 2 tags, the application can have 2 hunters. Do they give out 1 license for both or do they give out 1 license per hunter on the app???

Would I be able to apply as primary and have my bud as secondary. Then have my buddy apply on his own, or with me as a secondary?? Seems to me I would rather have 1 app go in then invite my buddy to help if I get it and vise-versa.

If you get the draw you can shoot two cows. No one else can shoot them. If you want to apply with your buddy you will either get two tags and he gets two tags, or you both get none. There is no partner tag.

Dan Boone · #**148** 12-12-2014, 09:46 PM

Anyone else getting the impression suffield is heading down a very similar road of the CWD deer slaughter of a few short years ago?

Get em while you can!!!!!!

elkhunter1234 · #**149** 12-12-2014, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Freerider

Would really like to put in for this I put in for the earlier hunts but wasn't drawn. I have also been completely unsuccessful so far this year nothing in the freezer I have one more day on my Wainwright hunt here's hoping. I just really don't think I can get time off work torn on wether to put in for it won't know if I can time off until I try and no point trying to get time off unless I get drawn quite the conundrum.

I personally would like to see anyone that applied for the regular draw but was unsecsefull get first crack at these tags and the left over tag go on a lottery draw..

Katman · #**150** 12-12-2014, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by elkhunter1234

I personally would like to see anyone that applied for the regular draw but was unsecsefull get first crack at these tags and the left over tag go on a lottery draw..

Ha ha. You're missing the point. Kinda not a lottery then right???? If they wanted to do another draw they would have.