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I use a MPBR technique and its different for various cartridges. I also shoot this way to 300m. Beyond 300m I start twisting turrets if I have time or using the dots if I don't.
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09-19-2016, 09:13 AM
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26 yd zero
Did not work for me as I always found elevation to be out. Plus even small errors are magnified 4 times at 100 yards.
I use it to get close enough to be on paper at 100, then sight MPBR for the caliber I am shooting.
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09-19-2016, 09:14 AM
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instead of sighting in at 26 yards i just bore sight then go hunting
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09-19-2016, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by fish_e_o
instead of sighting in at 26 yards i just bore sight then go hunting
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How do you bore sight your spear?
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instead of sighting in at 26 yards i just bore sight then go hunting
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Now that there is funny. 
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09-19-2016, 09:19 AM
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How do you bore sight your spear?
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i boar sight it 
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09-19-2016, 10:22 AM
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instead of sighting in at 26 yards i just bore sight then go hunting
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Oh jeeze. I know your kidding but don't be saying that. It drives up my blood pressure 
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Scope height will matter a lot. I tried this 20 years ago it didnt work and i dont think it will work today
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09-19-2016, 12:13 PM
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Scope height will matter a lot. I tried this 20 years ago it didnt work and i dont think it will work today
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Exactly
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09-19-2016, 12:38 PM
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Scope height will matter a lot. I tried this 20 years ago it didnt work and i dont think it will work today
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Yep. Scope height above bore makes a big difference. That being said its a good way to get on paper and then try your gun at 100, 200, 300 just so you see what's really going on. My Mohawk has a really high scope. It's not the greatest for getting a good check weld but because of the higher scope height my MPBR is a bit more. Weird to think that. A 308 with a lower scope won't have quite the same MPBR even with same velocity and bullet.
Had to run that through the calculator a few times before I believed it .
We're not talking huge difference but some for sure.
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After some thought and reading the replies maybe I'll just leave it set where it is, unless I'm feeling adventurous. I'm running the short scope rings on my browning. A bit of a pinch getting a lock with comfort but pretty accurate I must say. My 270 is used mainly for smaller predators anyways, wolves and yotes at long distances so the four inch kill zone I prefer wouldn't work quite like I'd like to be able to do it without some fiddling so the 26 yard zero wouldn't quite be the best unless I'm hunting bigger game. It's just the fine tune on the fly I'm going to have to work on a bit more.
Some good funnies here 
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If you get your desired zero at a longer range(100-200-300yds) then go back to 25 paces and see where your rifle shoots, then remember the 25 paces poi, it could be a hunt saver if for what ever reason you have something go wrong with your rifle and optics. Then again a second rifle or a set of iron sights might be a bigger hunt saver.
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My father taught me the 25 yard zero or something similar. You take the bolt out, look through the bore and find the bullseye. Set the crosshairs on the bullseye and shoot. It worked best with rifles with low rings.
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09-19-2016, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by heybert
My father taught me the 25 yard zero or something similar. You take the bolt out, look through the bore and find the bullseye. Set the crosshairs on the bullseye and shoot. It worked best with rifles with low rings.
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Try it on a target at 200 yards, then shoot at 100 yds. You won't be more than 5 or 6 inches off of zero.
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If you sight in at 26 yards, all that you have established is where the load shoots at 26 yards. If I want to know where the load shoots at 200 and 300 yards, I shoot the load at 200 and 300 yards.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by heybert
My father taught me the 25 yard zero or something similar. You take the bolt out, look through the bore and find the bullseye. Set the crosshairs on the bullseye and shoot. It worked best with rifles with low rings.
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Set your target up at 25 yards. Zero on the bulls eye and you won't be wasting ammunition when you sight in at 100.
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09-19-2016, 07:08 PM
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Set your target up at 25 yards. Zero on the bulls eye and you won't be wasting ammunition when you sight in at 100.
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For most of my centerfire cartridges, I bore sight and take my first shot at 100 yards to avoid wasting ammunition at 25 yards.
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I've done it to get on paper but 1/4" moa click is at 25 yards is equal to 2" so at 200 yards so definitely worth shooting at a little further distance if you want to hit exactly where you aim.
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I've done it to get on paper but 1/4" moa click is at 25 yards is equal to 2" so at 200 yards so definitely worth shooting at a little further distance if you want to hit exactly where you aim.
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09-19-2016, 07:43 PM
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Quote:
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I've done it to get on paper but 1/4" moa click is at 25 yards is equal to 2" so at 200 yards so definitely worth shooting at a little further distance if you want to hit exactly where you aim.
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One click on 1/4 increments is 1/16" at 25yds and 1/2" at 200yds
But aside from that agreed better to shoot at distance and sight in properly.
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09-19-2016, 11:28 PM
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Try it on a target at 200 yards, then shoot at 100 yds. You won't be more than 5 or 6 inches off of zero.
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I am 2.5" high at 100 and 1" low at 200. Tikka T3 in 9.3X62
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09-20-2016, 02:48 AM
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26 yard zero ?
Sounds like a bad alcohol ad ....
I prefer a 24 yard zero myself
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09-20-2016, 07:56 PM
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I prefer to let the pimply kid at Canadian tire set up my gun at the store so its ready to hunt with. That way I don't have to waste ammo sighting it in myself. If I miss I can send it back for warranty.
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09-20-2016, 10:36 PM
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Yes, to start the zeroing or to do a quick check, though it's 25 yards for .308.
We use to do it back in the day when I was in the infantry (25yard then 100 & 200). Don't know if they still do it that way though.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dick284
If you get your desired zero at a longer range(100-200-300yds) then go back to 25 paces and see where your rifle shoots, then remember the 25 paces poi, it could be a hunt saver if for what ever reason you have something go wrong with your rifle and optics. Then again a second rifle or a set of iron sights might be a bigger hunt saver.
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For me that is great advice.
Thanks
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Quote:
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For most of my centerfire cartridges, I bore sight and take my first shot at 100 yards to avoid wasting ammunition at 25 yards.
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Likewise. I do an initial bore sight by sighting through an empty chamber. Then I fine tune by placing an empty casing without a primer in the chamber and sight through the flash hole.
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