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10-12-2017, 07:00 PM
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Tiger trout
Is tiger trout coming to southern Alberta?
Moonshine is now stocked with Tiger Trout.
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10-12-2017, 07:10 PM
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Bet they will.
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10-13-2017, 02:45 PM
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I never saw any tiger trout on the 2017 stocking report
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10-14-2017, 12:36 PM
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Probably once they get the legal bs changed and they are recognised as a species etc.
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10-14-2017, 04:30 PM
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Are Tiger trout sterile?
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10-14-2017, 05:59 PM
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yes
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10-14-2017, 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by bucksman
I never saw any tiger trout on the 2017 stocking report
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Sept 2017 8,000 more Tigers stocked in 4 lakes. My Wild Alberta stocking lists.
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10-15-2017, 10:06 AM
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So southern Alberta gets the shaft again.
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10-15-2017, 10:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by millsboy79
So southern Alberta gets the shaft again.
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Don't see it as a big deal, the "fishermen" will keep the small tigers anyway so the wish and hope of them growing to size is just not in the cards. At least not yet anyway.
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10-15-2017, 11:04 AM
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Until fishries gets there **** together,it will continue to be a slaughter.
Contact your MLA let them no your thoughts !!
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10-15-2017, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by tallieho
Until fishries gets there **** together,it will continue to be a slaughter.
Contact your MLA let them no your thoughts !!
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I was told by someone with inside information that supposedly the proper regulations should be in place next year.
I guess the ineptitude in this case is due to our provincial government only updating the Alberta Fisheries Act every 5 years. Not sure why that is the case(if the federal legislation only allows them to do it every 5 years, if our government has decided they can only be bothered to do it every 5 years or what) but it obviously should be changed so if you are going to speak with your MLA ask them why the provincial government only updates the Alberta Fisheries Act every 5 years and tell them that it needs to be changed so fisheries can do their job properly and update the Act when needed.
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10-15-2017, 06:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TROLLER
Don't see it as a big deal, the "fishermen" will keep the small tigers anyway so the wish and hope of them growing to size is just not in the cards. At least not yet anyway.
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The "slaughter" of little tigers at Black Nugget (Tofield) is an example.
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10-15-2017, 08:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RavYak
I was told by someone with inside information that supposedly the proper regulations should be in place next year.
I guess the ineptitude in this case is due to our provincial government only updating the Alberta Fisheries Act every 5 years. Not sure why that is the case(if the federal legislation only allows them to do it every 5 years, if our government has decided they can only be bothered to do it every 5 years or what) but it obviously should be changed so if you are going to speak with your MLA ask them why the provincial government only updates the Alberta Fisheries Act every 5 years and tell them that it needs to be changed so fisheries can do their job properly and update the Act when needed.
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It’s been explained ad nauseuem already...it a a federal regulation. Canada has to do the amendment. Alberta can ask, but there’s a queue...a legislative waiting room, so to speak. Interestingly, no province can specifically regulate tiger trout yet. Manitoba is faking it. Saskatchewan worded their regs differently (all stocked trout) back in the day, so it’s not an issue. Alberta is being honest. If you want to point at ineptitude, ask DFO what their issue is with recognizing the tiger trout hybrid, when they have recognized splake for decades.
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10-15-2017, 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by wind drift
It’s been explained ad nauseuem already...it a a federal regulation. Canada has to do the amendment. Alberta can ask, but there’s a queue...a legislative waiting room, so to speak. Interestingly, no province can specifically regulate tiger trout yet. Manitoba is faking it. Saskatchewan worded their regs differently (all stocked trout) back in the day, so it’s not an issue. Alberta is being honest. If you want to point at ineptitude, ask DFO what their issue is with recognizing the tiger trout hybrid, when they have recognized splake for decades.
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The individual who I was speaking with works for AEP and he is the one that told me the provincial government makes changes every 5 years. Why it is 5 years or how exactly it works I do not know but he made it clear our province makes the changes and it just hasn't happened yet because the last change happened just before the tiger trout were stocked. They did ask the feds to make the change since they wanted it to happen before the next 5 year change but the feds haven't been bothered to do it at least not yet.
It is easy to just blame the feds but for some reason we have this crappy system while other provinces do not. Time for our provincial government to step up and fix the system by creating provincial legislation and reducing the federal legislation to only what it needs to be. For an example of a better system dig into the way SK is set up, much better and they make changes every year and don't run into ridiculous cases and excuses like this tiger trout fiasco and the barbless hooks situation etc.
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10-15-2017, 11:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wind drift
It’s been explained ad nauseuem already...it a a federal regulation. Canada has to do the amendment. Alberta can ask, but there’s a queue...a legislative waiting room, so to speak. Interestingly, no province can specifically regulate tiger trout yet. Manitoba is faking it. Saskatchewan worded their regs differently (all stocked trout) back in the day, so it’s not an issue. Alberta is being honest. If you want to point at ineptitude, ask DFO what their issue is with recognizing the tiger trout hybrid, when they have recognized splake for decades.
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Agree. They will fix it and restock.
But with all the whining about this. Starting to think that they should just stick to existing fish species. And work on native species in particular. Then they can really whine.
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10-16-2017, 06:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RavYak
The individual who I was speaking with works for AEP and he is the one that told me the provincial government makes changes every 5 years. Why it is 5 years or how exactly it works I do not know but he made it clear our province makes the changes and it just hasn't happened yet because the last change happened just before the tiger trout were stocked. They did ask the feds to make the change since they wanted it to happen before the next 5 year change but the feds haven't been bothered to do it at least not yet.
It is easy to just blame the feds but for some reason we have this crappy system while other provinces do not. Time for our provincial government to step up and fix the system by creating provincial legislation and reducing the federal legislation to only what it needs to be. For an example of a better system dig into the way SK is set up, much better and they make changes every year and don't run into ridiculous cases and excuses like this tiger trout fiasco and the barbless hooks situation etc.
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You were misinformed.
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10-16-2017, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by wind drift
You were misinformed.
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Then the people that work for AEP don't even know how their system works.
No wonder it is such a mess...
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10-19-2017, 12:50 PM
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I can't find any information on the net regarding longevity of tiger trout. Can anyone else find anything?
Brook trout can live to 6 years
Brown trout can live to 20 years
Tiger trout can live to ?? years.
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10-19-2017, 01:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sundancefisher
I can't find any information on the net regarding longevity of tiger trout. Can anyone else find anything?
Brook trout can live to 6 years
Brown trout can live to 20 years
Tiger trout can live to ?? years.
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"Generally 5 to 6 years" According to this book
https://books.google.ca/books?id=tbN...fespan&f=false
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10-19-2017, 01:04 PM
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Kind of hoping they take the tiger trout route with Pine Coulee Reservoir since they've given up on the walleye
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10-19-2017, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Flieguy
Kind of hoping they take the tiger trout route with Pine Coulee Reservoir since they've given up on the walleye
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Agree, would be nice to see tigers in the south. Might be a good place for them.
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10-22-2017, 09:06 PM
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pcr is actually one of the best lakes for them
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