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09-26-2018, 09:52 PM
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Tournament fisherman caught cheating
I am long time walleye fisherman and have just started fishing a few tournaments. I herd the other day that a tournament fisherman was caught cheating in Saskatchewan. Is this just a rumour or is there any truth to this?
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09-26-2018, 10:27 PM
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AH, do a little research into the tourneys in northern Alberta and you will find there is no shortage of the same happening!! So get used to it.. The thing is that these participants that cheat and end up collecting some cash actually think their good fisherman..
Oh well good way to donate your hard earned cash to tournaments you will never win. Sickening really!!
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09-26-2018, 10:48 PM
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Yes I herd the guy was from Alberta.
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09-27-2018, 05:47 AM
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Cheating in what way?
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09-27-2018, 06:45 AM
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I heard that they were caught trimming fins so a heavier fish still fell under the length requirement, but that info came from a different forum that had a discussion around the same topic so take it for what that's worth.
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09-27-2018, 07:15 AM
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An angler from northern AB (whose name I won't post publicly) tried to weigh in a fish at the Last Mountain Fall Classic that had clearly been "mangled". The tail fin was cut so that the fish was under the 21.5" slot limit. The angler was DQ'd on the spot and sent home.
That's all I know.
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09-27-2018, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Walleyedude
The tail fin was cut so that the fish was under the 21.5" slot limit.
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Wow, a true walleye conservationist trying to save and protect the species
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09-27-2018, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by AK47
Wow, a true walleye conservationist trying to save and protect the species
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I've heard a few rumors about this. Be interesting to know how this all shakes out.
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09-27-2018, 09:38 PM
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Wow!!! That makes me sick. What a black eye for Tournament fishing. I hope this guy gets the book through at him.
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09-27-2018, 10:23 PM
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name the name, a bit of shame probably wouldnt hurt
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09-27-2018, 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by alberta hunter
Wow!!! That makes me sick. What a black eye for Tournament fishing. I hope this guy gets the book through at him.
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Cheating isn't really a tournament thing regardless of sport its a character thing.
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09-28-2018, 09:24 AM
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I always wondered how many fish end up eating a bunch of lead shot after they are netted.
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I wasn't thinking far enough ahead for an outcome, I was ranting. By definition, a rant doesn't imply much forethought.....
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09-28-2018, 10:18 AM
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Put a price on our wildlife, whether through contests or outfitting never ends well. People sink money into a passion, and suddenly they feel entitled to a return.
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09-28-2018, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by pikergolf
Put a price on our wildlife, whether through contests or outfitting never ends well. People sink money into a passion, and suddenly they feel entitled to a return.
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Your really bent out of shape about money involved in sports eh? What about pro sports does that keep you up at night as well?
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09-28-2018, 11:13 AM
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I wondered how long it would be before certain members here tried to turn this into an anti-tournament fishing thread. Sadly, it wasn't long.
I'll never understand why people are so willing to throw entire groups of people under bus simply due to the actions of the very few. As long as of course, it fits with their agenda, and it's not them being targeted.
It's an anti-cheating thread - nothing more, nothing less. It's really unfortunate that we as outdoorsmen often tend to be our own worst enemies...
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09-28-2018, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by MooseRiverTrapper
Your really bent out of shape about money involved in sports eh? What about pro sports does that keep you up at night as well?
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Fishing and hunting are not sports.
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09-28-2018, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Walleyedude
I wondered how long it would be before certain members here tried to turn this into an anti-tournament fishing thread. Sadly, it wasn't long.
I'll never understand why people are so willing to throw entire groups of people under bus simply due to the actions of the very few. As long as of course, it fits with their agenda, and it's not them being targeted.
It's an anti-cheating thread - nothing more, nothing less. It's really unfortunate that we as outdoorsmen often tend to be our own worst enemies...
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Why is there cheating, money.
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09-28-2018, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Walleyedude
It's an anti-cheating thread - nothing more, nothing less. It's really unfortunate that we as outdoorsmen often tend to be our own worst enemies...
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I am more disgusted by how the cheating was done - causing an injury to the fish by cutting its tail fin is way worse than for example using some illegal technique to catch it in my opinion.
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09-28-2018, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by pikergolf
Why is there cheating, money.
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Why is there poaching?
Why do people speed?
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09-28-2018, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by pikergolf
Fishing and hunting are not sports.
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preach brother!
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09-28-2018, 04:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Walleyedude
I wondered how long it would be before certain members here tried to turn this into an anti-tournament fishing thread. Sadly, it wasn't long.
I'll never understand why people are so willing to throw entire groups of people under bus simply due to the actions of the very few. As long as of course, it fits with their agenda, and it's not them being targeted.
It's an anti-cheating thread - nothing more, nothing less. It's really unfortunate that we as outdoorsmen often tend to be our own worst enemies...
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There are members on here who are constantly "throwing entire groups" under the bus whether it is something hunting, shooting or fishing. The anti hunting, shooting and fishing members on here is unfortunately growing all the time.
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09-28-2018, 07:17 PM
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I sport-fish all the time, sport-hunting to me would be skeet or trap shooting?
Of course there is sport fishing.
I believe every fish caught then released is sport-fishing, but I may be wrong.
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Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck
I wasn't thinking far enough ahead for an outcome, I was ranting. By definition, a rant doesn't imply much forethought.....
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09-28-2018, 10:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken07AOVette
I sport-fish all the time, sport-hunting to me would be skeet or trap shooting?
Of course there is sport fishing.
I believe every fish caught then released is sport-fishing, but I may be wrong.
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Well - you be the judge...
sport
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09-28-2018, 11:25 PM
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Well - you be the judge...
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Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck
I wasn't thinking far enough ahead for an outcome, I was ranting. By definition, a rant doesn't imply much forethought.....
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09-29-2018, 10:15 AM
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Fishing and hunting are not sports.
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It is if there is a competition and money involved.....and then out come the cheaters.....just like any other sport.
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09-29-2018, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by pikergolf
Put a price on our wildlife, whether through contests or outfitting never ends well. People sink money into a passion, and suddenly they feel entitled to a return.
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Well said
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09-29-2018, 04:53 PM
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SPORT - "An activity involving physical exertion and skill"
Well if you consider walking a river for 5 km up and down stream and casting lures or flies not physical then maybe try a river with bigger banks and more trees and rocks. As far as the entertainment part goes, just watch someone try pulling their best lures out from a snag or the rookie (me) getting their best fly out of a tree branch on the back cast Now that's entertainment
Sport hunting would be a great competition if we gave the animals weapons . HA HA Feel free to dis me I love it
And yes the cheating thing goes on and on in what ever you participate in. Years ago (30) fishing derby out at Mcgregor Lake guy got caught bringing a fish from Traverse and weighing it in. Don't know how he got caught but I was at that tourny (what a $h!t show) when he got his as$ tossed. CHEATER
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09-29-2018, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by alberta hunter
Yes I herd the guy was from Alberta.
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Yes , he is from Alberta , Cold Lake Alberta , Ryan Johnson
He was the team captain
Supposedly , last year at same tournament in Saskatchewan, some fish were brought in that were oversized , so this year they were really checking fish good
Also , the story going around is they were watching for him this year , they say he was disqualified and sent home last year in same tournament 2017 for being caught in a out of bounds area ,
More will come of this yet
Everyone is Hearing That he has life time ban from Saskatchewan walleye tournaments ,
Word is getting around , wonder what should be done about the Alberta walleye tournaments , should he be banned also from them
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09-30-2018, 10:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Walleyedude
An angler from northern AB (whose name I won't post publicly) tried to weigh in a fish at the Last Mountain Fall Classic that had clearly been "mangled". The tail fin was cut so that the fish was under the 21.5" slot limit. The angler was DQ'd on the spot and sent home.
That's all I know.
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the tourneys that I have been in for walleye in Alberta, the fish is measured and that length is then converted into a weight. it does not matter if the fish is skinny or fat or has lead in its belly. that alone stops a lot of cheaters.
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09-30-2018, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by dutch_m
Yes , he is from Alberta , Cold Lake Alberta , Ryan Johnson
He was the team captain
Supposedly , last year at same tournament in Saskatchewan, some fish were brought in that were oversized , so this year they were really checking fish good
Also , the story going around is they were watching for him this year , they say he was disqualified and sent home last year in same tournament 2017 for being caught in a out of bounds area ,
More will come of this yet
Everyone is Hearing That he has life time ban from Saskatchewan walleye tournaments ,
Word is getting around , wonder what should be done about the Alberta walleye tournaments , should he be banned also from them
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Better have your fact before posting stuff, Was Ryan DQ or was he cheating, Has the tournament saying he was DQ or Cheating?? Before making decisions contact the trail and hear what there reasons were,
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