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01-15-2019, 09:06 AM
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Had I Thompson center pro hunter with 28" 7mm rem mag for when I went sheep hunting the couple of times that I did.
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01-15-2019, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by outdoorsman12b
I have had a few CDS Leupold scopes including the vx3i and it has been hit or miss with tracking. The erector issues in Leupold are well documented and you can find quite a bit with some googling. If you want to stay light with a Leupold I would take a look at the Boone and Crockett reticle or have their custom shop make a reticle for your load. If you really want to dial with confidence there are only a few options proven. You will have to up the weight.
Nightforce
SWFA
Busnnell LRHS
Budget option Nikon black FX 1000
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I have heard of the erector issues. In my case it was a scope of opportunity, deal I couldn’t say no to so I figured I would try it. If it doesn’t track well it’s a hunting rifle, and I’ll sight it in as I do all my other hunting rifles. If I was looking for a long range scope to dial I would be getting a nightforce.
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01-15-2019, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by chuck
That’s what it is, and I don’t have a reasonable explanation. :-)
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That’s a long way of saying, “I’m hopeless.”
I copied chuck’s blueprint for my favorite all-around rifle. Bill Leeper put it together for me. It has a different scope now- FXII 6x36 LRD.
Shoots OK, thanks to Bill. (last 3 round, 100M zero check before season)
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01-15-2019, 10:06 AM
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Show me your sheep rig
Here is my sheep rig that was used for the last 3 seasons:
It has tagged deer, a moose, and a single ewe. No rams though.
It is a Kimber in .280ai with a Swaro z5 sitting on top.
No pictures yet but I have a Sako Finnlight that doesn’t “self-identify” as the 7-08 20” barrel that it is currently sporting. So I’m having K&S convert it to 6.5cm at 24”. If it behaves at the shooting range, it will see some time in the mountains this fall.
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01-15-2019, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Wrongside
That’s a long way of saying, “I’m hopeless.”
I copied chuck’s blueprint for my favorite all-around rifle. Bill Leeper put it together for me. It has a different scope now- FXII 6x36 LRD.
Shoots OK, thanks to Bill. (last 3 round, 100M zero check before season)
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Do you want to sell that one? :-)
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01-15-2019, 10:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrongside
That’s a long way of saying, “I’m hopeless.”
I copied chuck’s blueprint for my favorite all-around rifle. Bill Leeper put it together for me. It has a different scope now- FXII 6x36 LRD.
Shoots OK, thanks to Bill. (last 3 round, 100M zero check before season)
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Beauty. The LRD was a great reticle and its a shame Leupold stopped offering it as a standard option.
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01-15-2019, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by dave99
Here is my sheep rig that was used for the last 3 seasons:
It has tagged deer, a moose, and a single ewe. No rams though.
It is a Kimber in .280ai with a Swaro z5 sitting on top.
No pictures yet but I have a Sako Finnlight that doesn’t “self-identify” as the 7-08 20” barrel that it is currently sporting. So I’m having K&S convert it to 6.5cm at 24”. If it behaves at the shooting range, it will see some time in the mountains this fall.
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Caliber identification is such an issue these days with modern sporters. What type of barrel are you putting on the finnlight?
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01-15-2019, 12:18 PM
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First year sheep hunter so nothing fancy and no intentions to upgrade it anytime soon but it works none the less! Used it on my BC mountain goat this past September. Savage 111 in 3006 with a Bushnell elite. 8lbs 3oz with 10rounds.
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01-15-2019, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by JoshT
First year sheep hunter so nothing fancy and no intentions to upgrade it anytime soon but it works none the less! Used it on my BC mountain goat this past September. Savage 111 in 3006 with a Bushnell elite. 8lbs 3oz with 10rounds.
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Nothing wrong with that, what works works honestly. You don’t need the lightest rig on the mountain. Just need a rifle you’re used to and very comfortable shooting, don’t have to be long shots either. By the time you hiked up and scouted the second day, you’ve lost the weight that people spend thousands on trying to take off their rifle.
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01-15-2019, 02:05 PM
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Show me your sheep rig
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Originally Posted by outdoorsman12b
Caliber identification is such an issue these days with modern sporters. What type of barrel are you putting on the finnlight?
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Haha. Things are just so much more complicated than they used to be!
I was thinking to keep the contour the same as the current Finnlight barrel. It’s a custom barrel built by KS Arms in Edmonton.
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01-15-2019, 05:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrongside
That’s a long way of saying, “I’m hopeless.”
I copied chuck’s blueprint for my favorite all-around rifle. Bill Leeper put it together for me. It has a different scope now- FXII 6x36 LRD.
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Always loved old Frankenstein!
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01-15-2019, 05:54 PM
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01-15-2019, 09:43 PM
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Ol faithfull and the last sheep I shot with it. 300 wtby barreled and stocked by Ralph Martini when he was in Ft St John still. Use it on everything including sheep, its the only rifle I really hunt with despite having a couple othets. 8lbs total. Topped with an old straight 6x Zeiss scope. Using 180 nosler partitions, 80 gr rl 22.
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01-16-2019, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by bdub
Ol faithfull and the last sheep I shot with it. 300 wtby barreled and stocked by Ralph Martini when he was in Ft St John still. Use it on everything including sheep, its the only rifle I really hunt with despite having a couple othets. 8lbs total. Topped with an old straight 6x Zeiss scope. Using 180 nosler partitions, 80 gr rl 22.
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Nice ram and rig. How is the recoil on that 300? At 8lbs I am guessing fairly stout. My buddy wants to setup a 300 WBY but is holding off because it seams like it may be unpleasant to shoot.
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01-16-2019, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by outdoorsman12b
Nice ram and rig. How is the recoil on that 300? At 8lbs I am guessing fairly stout. My buddy wants to setup a 300 WBY but is holding off because it seams like it may be unpleasant to shoot.
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Thanks.
It does kick but replacing the stock with something that fit and a good recoil pad made a world of difference.
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01-16-2019, 09:09 AM
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Thanks.
It does kick but replacing the stock with something that fit and a good recoil pad made a world of difference.
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I had a vanguard backcountry in a 300 wby
Most ignorant rifle I’ve ever shot
I’d take a 378 wby over that thing
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01-16-2019, 09:33 AM
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01-16-2019, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by marky_mark
I had a vanguard backcountry in a 300 wby
Most ignorant rifle I’ve ever shot
I’d take a 378 wby over that thing
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I believe you, I've never shot a Vanguard before but stock design and fit sure made a difference for me from the standard Rem 700 plastic stock.
I had an Ruger Stainless Stalker once in 7RM that was awful to shoot as well. Was glad to get rid of that cannoe paddle with a barrel.
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01-16-2019, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by bdub
I believe you, I've never shot a Vanguard before but stock design and fit sure made a difference for me from the standard Rem 700 plastic stock.
I had an Ruger Stainless Stalker once in 7RM that was awful to shoot as well. Was glad to get rid of that cannoe paddle with a barrel.
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8lbs is a way nicer weight for a rifle
Makes a huge difference when it comes down to crunch time
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01-16-2019, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by marky_mark
8lbs is a way nicer weight for a rifle
Makes a huge difference when it comes down to crunch time
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That’s a reflection of capability not rifle weight.
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01-16-2019, 12:14 PM
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That’s a reflection of capability not rifle weight.
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Not really
Ultra lights are typically finicky with stock pressure, barrel pressure, balance, they recoil harder, harder to spot shots etc
I’d rather cut a few lbs off other gear or myself rather than the rifle
1-2 lbs off of a rifle makes a huge difference
1-2 lbs off everything else is minor
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01-16-2019, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by marky_mark
Not really
Ultra lights are typically finicky with stock pressure, barrel pressure, balance, they recoil harder, harder to spot shots etc
I’d rather cut a few lbs off other gear or myself rather than the rifle
1-2 lbs off of a rifle makes a huge difference
1-2 lbs off everything else is minor
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Well, no, that’s wrong. I will agree that many will find it easier to shoot a heavier rifle, but again, that’s a shooter problem, not a rifle problem.
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01-16-2019, 12:21 PM
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Well, no, that’s wrong. I will agree that many will find it easier to shoot a heavier rifle, but again, that’s a shooter problem, not a rifle problem.
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Well I don’t know many guns that are accurate with a lousy person pulling the trigger
They kinda work together
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01-16-2019, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by marky_mark
Well I don’t know many guns that are accurate with a lousy person pulling the trigger
They kinda work together
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Lousy is exacerbated by light rifles.
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01-16-2019, 01:38 PM
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And it does make a huge difference in rifle weight. Your gear is usually inside your pack. The gun on outside. You feel the weight of your gun, every pound of it. Your pack makes little difference from lets say 45lbs to 47lbs.
Pack a 8lb gun up the mountain and then pack a 6lb gun up the mountain and tell me if there is a difference.
I have put hundreds of miles on boots in the mountains, and it makes a huge difference on how you feel at the end of the day. I hunt with a Kimber Andronidak now for that reason.
If you are just walking down a wooded trail for 10 miles deer hunting, you don't notice the weight that much.
Now take that same 10miles and make it up and down shale slopes and scrub, and it is totally different.
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01-16-2019, 03:20 PM
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Thanks all for sharing your rigs so far and keep them coming. Everyone has what works for them. If they didn't only one rifle would need to be made. Let's try and keep the spirit of this thread away from opinions regarding shooting theory and focused on sharing toys
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01-16-2019, 03:21 PM
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Well now you need to share the specs of what his is??? Looks custom. What reticle did you go with on the SHV?
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01-16-2019, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by JoshT
First year sheep hunter so nothing fancy and no intentions to upgrade it anytime soon but it works none the less! Used it on my BC mountain goat this past September. Savage 111 in 3006 with a Bushnell elite. 8lbs 3oz with 10rounds.
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That's a good setup Josh. Have you been out in the real wet stuff yet with blued though? I baby my rifles and still get rust forming when raining every day. A buddy had stainless and did not even look at his rifle and the thing was fine. It made a believer out of me in stainless.
Just to clarify not implying you should change your setup at all.
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01-16-2019, 04:15 PM
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Well now you need to share the specs of what his is??? Looks custom. What reticle did you go with on the SHV?
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rem model 7 in 6.5x47 Lapua. KS arms barrel, wildcat composites stock, titanium recoil lug, timney calvin elite trigger. a few other little things.
it's the international hunters reticle on the SHV
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