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Old 07-11-2019, 07:09 PM
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The advantage of Queen is we have someone that could get rid of a inept Prime Minister, something the Americans lack when they get a problem like Trump that can buy their way to a Presidents job with no qualifications.
Wrong. The left tried that with Harper. The queen wrote back that she didn't have authority to punt him from office. Governor General gave the same response.

That being said, it's rather strange that everyone in government and the law profession swears an oath of allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second. That means that they actually work for the queen, and not us.

In my opinion, we elect those who represent the government to us, and not us to the government. If the people elect a right government, certain plans slow down, and if we elect a left government, those plans accelerate. Ever notice how the direction of the government never really changes?
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Old 07-11-2019, 07:29 PM
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It's good to be king----Mel Brooks

The royalty in Canada should have ended shortly after confederation
It ended after the death of Victoria. She signed off of any claim as Queen of Canada. That hasn't translated into fact here it seems. Unless you have the document that states that Queen Vicci did that.

Also, Canada was never confederated. It was consolidated as a supercolony to lower the costs of administration. That's right in British legislation till it was repealed by the statute of Westminster in 1931.

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agreed, the Queen is a fine lady, no doubt about that, but when she goes, are we going to get Charles' face on our $20 bill? a foreigner? The Queen should say: "after me, no more!" but it won't happen, there is just too much money behind it
Again, a foreign monarchy should have no power here. But Canada never became a country. They use 'shadow magic' to have the populace think that Canada is a country. In reality, Canada is a corporation formed under British Royal Charter. However, the Royal Charter forming the company called Canada did not come into effect. The Royal Proclamation of 1982 states the the Charter comes into effect subject to section 59 coming into effect. If you read the annoted PDF of the so called "Constitution of Canada", the footnote states that section 59 has never come into effect.

So why is lizzie her granging a Charter that she has no authority to grant?? Maybe she has the old Hudson's Bay Company Charter and is ruling under that Charter instead?

Oh, and the word 'Charter' is very interesting and significant. The only legal definition the I have found of a Charter is letters patent forming the articles of incorporation for a company.
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Old 07-11-2019, 07:33 PM
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Should be voted in, not born in, that goes for everyone and everything.
Did your parents vote?

Being a Brit, you colonials don't know jack.
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Old 07-11-2019, 07:35 PM
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Did your parents vote?

Being a Brit, you colonials don't know jack.
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Old 07-11-2019, 07:36 PM
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I think that the entire idea of a monarchy is long outdated, serves no purpose, and should be done away with.The last thing that this world needs is more "entitled" people.
Bingo! Hit the nail right on the head.
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Old 07-11-2019, 08:00 PM
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Only time I care about royalty is when I am playing poker.
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Old 07-11-2019, 08:09 PM
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I'm kinda curious on the view of royalty here.

In some minds it's akin to religion.

I remember telling a joke about the queen while one of her kids was sitting across from me. His guys tensed, the guys I was with sat uncomfortably, but we all laughed when I was done. We being everyone but him and his guys on the plane.

No one killed each other that day, in fact we all had beers afterwards.

I personally don't believe the crown has weight on this continent, what say you?
Pretty disrespectful to the son of the queen and the monarchy. Telling a joke when they’re not present is fine but putting it in his face is a pretty douche move!

If the queen can remove an incompetent PM then she should be lobbied to do so.

Pretty expensive for what you get.

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Old 07-11-2019, 08:55 PM
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I respect the Queen, more so than the vast majority of our politicians anyway, and have no issue with the Royalty.
Would love go have a private tour of the Queen's firearms collection .
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Old 07-11-2019, 09:29 PM
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Commonwealth trade deals, good for Canada and all the other countries in our commonwealth.

The Commonwealth comprises 53 countries, across all continents. The members have a combined population of 2.4 billion people, almost a third of the world population, of whom 1.26 billion live in India, 220 million live in Pakistan and 94% live in Asia and Africa combined.

God save the Queen.
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I'm kinda curious on the view of royalty here.

In some minds it's akin to religion.

I remember telling a joke about the queen while one of her kids was sitting across from me. His guys tensed, the guys I was with sat uncomfortably, but we all laughed when I was done. We being everyone but him and his guys on the plane.

No one killed each other that day, in fact we all had beers afterwards.

I personally don't believe the crown has weight on this continent, what say you?
At one point you took this oath:

"I, HalfBreed, do swear that I will well and truly serve Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth the Second, Queen of Canada, Her heirs and successors according to law, in the Canadian Forces until lawfully released, that I will resist Her Majesty's enemies and cause Her Majesty's peace to be kept and maintained and that I will, in all matters pertaining to my service, faithfully discharge my duty. So help me God."

Sitting in the aircraft cabin, I suspect you were either cabin crew or VVIP MP security detail. In any case, I think it was in poor taste to joke about ones mother...……... to their children. Maybe it was just fun?......maybe it wasn't? What was the joke?
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Old 07-12-2019, 09:40 AM
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Nominal head of our government, works, but too damned expensive for this cowboy. Family scandals kind of worked on the respect and integrity angle. Charles as King ?

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How much does it cost Canada? Less than one family of "Gimmiegrants" I'll bet. FWIW I'm no fan of royalty or any other religion either.
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Old 07-12-2019, 09:55 AM
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How much does it cost Canada? Less than one family of "Gimmiegrants" I'll bet. FWIW I'm no fan of royalty or any other religion either.

Aside from the costs associated with the serving governor general, we are still paying six figure expenses for a single former governor general. And that does't include their very generous pensions.


https://nationalpost.com/news/politi...ar-in-expenses

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/joh...n-gg-1.4912848
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Old 07-12-2019, 02:21 PM
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Maybe it was just fun?......maybe it wasn't? What was the joke?
I will guess:

Why did the Queen wear white gloves to Princess Diana’s funeral?


Because she got brake fluid on her black ones
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Old 07-12-2019, 03:33 PM
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It's good to be king----Mel Brooks

The royalty in Canada should have ended shortly after confederation
That’s my favourite movie! History of the world part 1!
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Old 07-12-2019, 03:53 PM
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I'm with you guys, I don't think a monarchy system has much, if any place in modern society.
"Royalty" is nothing but tyranny from the Dark Ages. Kinda reminds of ol' Dolphie Hitler and Good Ol' Joe Stalin.

Laugh at me and hate me, and "hate Americans", if you will, but in my mind "dark ages" means any era before 1776 AD.
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Old 07-12-2019, 04:21 PM
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So I am confused...are political posts allowed or not?
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Old 07-12-2019, 11:18 PM
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An example of why we don't need royalty.

https://calgaryherald.com/news/world...box=1562940994
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Old 07-13-2019, 12:01 AM
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An example of why we don't need royalty.

https://calgaryherald.com/news/world...box=1562940994

I LOVE the comments and agree with all of 'em (so far as of Friday night)
Especially the one about the "celebrities".
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Old 07-13-2019, 08:18 AM
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So I am confused...are political posts allowed or not?
Good question.

No one is gonna ban you for mentioning a politician's name in the context of a thread on the royal family, as that is not a political discussion. If it turns stupid, insulting, and argumentative, which it usually does, that is when threads get shut down, and penalties given.

Threads on purely political topics are not allowed and are shut down when seen, keeping in mind that all mods are volunteers, and we basically respond to complaints that are made by members, so sometimes it takes a while. Contrary to popular opinion, we do not read every word of every thread. Far, from it. Just being honest.

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Old 07-13-2019, 08:45 AM
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I'm with you guys, I don't think a monarchy system has much, if any place in modern society.
Nor does treaties etc.....time to get with a modern society that today makes the best decisions for tomorrow....not digging up the past and reliving all the BS etc


As for royalty......meh
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Why did the Queen wear white gloves to Princess Diana’s funeral?


Because she got brake fluid on her black ones
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Old 07-13-2019, 08:48 AM
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The advantage of Queen is we have someone that could get rid of a inept Prime Minister, something the Americans lack when they get a problem like Trump that can buy their way to a Presidents job with no qualifications.
This has to be the funniest thing I have ever read.
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Old 07-13-2019, 09:24 AM
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"Royalty" is nothing but tyranny from the Dark Ages. Kinda reminds of ol' Dolphie Hitler and Good Ol' Joe Stalin.

Laugh at me and hate me, and "hate Americans", if you will, but in my mind "dark ages" means any era before 1776 AD.
Not very appropriate comparison here. Hope you choke on your bangers and mash.
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Aside from the costs associated with the serving governor general, we are still paying six figure expenses for a single former governor general. And that does't include their very generous pensions.


https://nationalpost.com/news/politi...ar-in-expenses

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/joh...n-gg-1.4912848
To be fair, those are crooked Canucks taking advantage of an antiquated system. I agree, that position should be eliminated as it is useless. Clarkson was a former cbc journalist used to slurping at the public trough just like her ol' pals Duffy and Wallin. Remember them?
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Old 07-13-2019, 12:29 PM
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An example of why we don't need royalty.

https://calgaryherald.com/news/world...box=1562940994
It's really hard to believe that anyone would seek out that idiot's opinion about anything. They guy was literally recorded one time saying that he'd like to be a tampon
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