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05-03-2010, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by RADAKALS
We would be better of to educate of young hunters and kick the ---- out of the older hunters that have no ethics....
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If your looking to kick the crap out of an old guy come knock on my door son. I'll give you a go.
PM me for directions.
Best hunting is found were there are no roads!
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05-03-2010, 04:02 PM
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Gone Hunting
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Originally Posted by uglyelk
If your looking to kick the crap out of an old guy come knock on my door son. I'll give you a go.
PM me for directions.
Best hunting is found were there are no roads!
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Good One!!!!!
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05-03-2010, 05:11 PM
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Hal and Ugly Elk
I'm not sure where you get the idea that I am implying that old hunters are the problem. I never stated that if you read my post. There are equal amounts of old and young that don't follow proper ethics in my area. I think we have a BETTER chance of educating young hunters rather than trying to RE-educate those with a life time of no ethics. I`m also not sure where you get the idea that I`m a younger hunter. You don`t even know me... I`m even older than 209. Don`t jump to any conclusions from what you miss-read on my post.
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05-03-2010, 05:31 PM
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Hey! Don't say that like it is a bad thing! LOL!
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05-03-2010, 07:44 PM
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i email them and it is truck hunter they are mainly after and i couldn't agree more . it will make hunting a little safer with out the yahoos shooting from the road not know who might be in the bush they are shooting at. they also sent me this pdf
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05-03-2010, 08:03 PM
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05-03-2010, 10:20 PM
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Well this is good to hear. Looks like the proposal is dead. As I had stated earlier let the group regulate it's self and look what happend. No need to start spoutin off about beef boycotts.Sometimes it pays to have a little faith.
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05-04-2010, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by The cooter
Well this is good to hear. Looks like the proposal is dead. As I had stated earlier let the group regulate it's self and look what happend. No need to start spoutin off about beef boycotts.Sometimes it pays to have a little faith.
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Sure, like RAMP....
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05-04-2010, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by uglyelk
If your looking to kick the crap out of an old guy come knock on my door son. I'll give you a go.
PM me for directions.
Best hunting is found were there are no roads!
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"Old age and treachery will always overcome youth and skill!"
"Never pick a fight with an old fella, He doesn't have the speed or the energy to "dance" with ya, he'll just kill ya!" (see the above, hehehe)
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05-04-2010, 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by RADAKALS
I'm not sure where you get the idea that I am implying that old hunters are the problem. I never stated that if you read my post. There are equal amounts of old and young that don't follow proper ethics in my area. I think we have a BETTER chance of educating young hunters rather than trying to RE-educate those with a life time of no ethics. I`m also not sure where you get the idea that I`m a younger hunter. You don`t even know me... I`m even older than 209. Don`t jump to any conclusions from what you miss-read on my post.
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The only way some of us "older folk" get excersize is to "Jump to conclusions"
and sometimes we even "Run off at the mouth!"
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05-04-2010, 07:07 AM
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Hey Trooper;
You know your getting old when your wife says "Honey, let's run upstairs and make love", and your answer is.........." I cannot do both"
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05-04-2010, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by rednecknewfie
i email them and it is truck hunter they are mainly after and i couldn't agree more . it will make hunting a little safer with out the yahoos shooting from the road not know who might be in the bush they are shooting at. they also sent me this pdf
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How is this law going to make things safer?
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05-04-2010, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by chuck
How is this law going to make things safer?
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What? You maybe know of a law written that doesn't make things safer .
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05-04-2010, 09:37 AM
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Well I'd hate to burst the bubble of all you road hunter's but according to the ACA report a poacher web site you guys are concidered poachers.
http://www.ab-conservation.com/go/de...ort-a-poacher/
You are a poacher if you:
Hunt or fish out of season
Road hunt
Night hunt
Trespass
Exceed bag limits
Sell wildlife or fish illegally
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05-04-2010, 10:19 AM
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Ironically I have to laugh not all road hunters are bad and to say your hunting ways are better then the next persons well it wont be long before someone question’s your way of hunting also .
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i email them and it is truck hunter they are mainly after and i couldn't agree more . it will make hunting a little safer with out the yahoos shooting from the road not know who might be in the bush they are shooting at.
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What about the hunters in the bush shooting at game how safe it that .
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05-04-2010, 10:21 AM
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I see that road hunt is in fact in there but I wish they would spell it out better...do they mean shot OFF a road or is it the actual act of driving around.For the most part I hunt in the field but what if I'am driving to or from a hunting spot and I see a deer on land that I have permition on, as long as I am standing on the property( not the road) I can shot the deer.Now is that road hunting?
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05-04-2010, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ksteed17
theres nothing illegal with looking for game from the road.
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True.
But its what tends to happen after you found the game from the road that creates the problems.
If your process is to spot the game. Go ask permission. Park the truck and then go hunt. Or along these lines. Great.
If your process is to spot the game (from maintained roads). Slam on the brakes. Use the door, hood or box as a gun rest. Jump across the fence and quickly get your deer because you don't know whos land your on. Then thats creates problems and is illegal.
For some, it is the second process that is used. Way too much temptation (or desperation) for them as the drive until you see something is generally an ineffective way to hunt. But your within your rights to legally hunt however you want.
I have no intent to be preachy or judgemental....just was stating that the response of ABP was related to an ISSUE, that has become a problem for farmers/ranchers in some areas.
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05-04-2010, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by yamaha 1
I see that road hunt is in fact in there but I wish they would spell it out better...do they mean shot OFF a road or is it the actual act of driving around.For the most part I hunt in the field but what if I'am driving to or from a hunting spot and I see a deer on land that I have permition on, as long as I am standing on the property( not the road) I can shot the deer.Now is that road hunting?
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Road hunting would indeed be shooting off the road. If you are off the road right of way you are not road hunting. In some areas you are going to be standing on private property that you better have permission for.
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05-04-2010, 11:45 AM
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Solution
Plain and simple................ more enforcement of the laws we have now, period. More laws will not make any difference.....they will still road hunt when they are out of sight of any enforcement personal, and it may increase injuries as the dip****e poachers shoot themselves trying to conform to a law such as this when they see an police/F&W/sheriff pulling up behind them etc. If they were more likely to get busted for it, they wouldn't do it, simple!
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05-04-2010, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by 209x50
Road hunting would indeed be shooting off the road. If you are off the road right of way you are not road hunting. In some areas you are going to be standing on private property that you better have permission for.
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I do not shoot off the roads ,never have never will....and ONLY hunt on land that I have permission. I was just stating that the term ROAD HUNTING should be better explained.
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05-04-2010, 06:02 PM
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Sure, like RAMP....
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I'm sorry could you explain?
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05-04-2010, 07:58 PM
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The proposal recommends changing the law only for big game season, BS. Give the road hunters that do something wrong more punishment than a slap on the wrist, this is severe overkill. To the alberta beef farmers who cherish the freedom we do have in this country with firearms, you are attempting to take this one step closer to something like what the Brits have. I understand being ****ed at some road hunters but this is your freedom also.
If this became law it would do nothing to the people your ****ed at and open the door to the people who actually lobby against guns/hunting ( I'd bet not too many of them are farmers).
Give your head a shake.
I won't buy beef, I won't let hunting........ childish and stupid, this affects us all weather you see it yet or not (if it goes thru which I really hope it does not).
that is all
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