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02-12-2013, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by canadiantdi
It's either him or LL Cool J's winter cabin has been destroyed.
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my first thought was this dude looks like a chunkier version of ladies love cool james. lmao i thought i was the only one.
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02-12-2013, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by finsnfeathers
hmm, 9:10 PM, (8:10 PM LA time)...news conference just announced no body has been discovered...cabin remains too hot to investigate at this time.
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LOL...all the nut job paranoid conspiracy theorists are putting together extensive flow charts, cropping photos, and making an awesome scrap book to start the next wave of "the Government is COMING!" scare videos.
I predict massive stock piling of food and water and the power being turned on in bunkers.
And when did "Preppers" go from kids that like homework and home comings to adults that like end of the world planning?
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02-12-2013, 09:20 PM
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Is it just me or are reporters full of crap these days
Lets go on Facebook and ask him if he's dead.
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02-12-2013, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by silverdoctor
Pretty sad that there's conflicting news stories, other news are saying the police had the body and claiming it was definitely him...
considering they were shooting black people in vehicles that fit the description of Dormers truck, I wouldn't believe a word the police say about it anymore.
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News coverage is sad because things are happening in real world timing, with real people and not an Arnold Schwarzenegger movie. Media jumps on anything...makes up statements just hoping to guess right and be a scoop or guess wrong and draw in a crowd.
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02-12-2013, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by silverdoctor
considering they were shooting black people in vehicles that fit the description of Dormers truck, I wouldn't believe a word the police say about it anymore.
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And elderly hispanic ladies.. hey, mistakes happen ha!! Shoot first, ID later I guess...
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02-12-2013, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Classic_Cool
Is it just me or are reporters full of crap these days
Lets go on Facebook and ask him if he's dead.
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I need a better excuse than that to join facebook...lol I'm gonna pass.
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02-12-2013, 09:25 PM
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The media is a joke. Riverside says he's dead. La says they don't know. Maybe the riverside police spoke out of turn. Either way I'd believe they pulled him out and want airtight Identification before announcing but who knows.
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02-12-2013, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Sundancefisher
News coverage is sad because things are happening in real world timing, with real people and not an Arnold Schwarzenegger movie. Media jumps on anything...makes up statements just hoping to guess right and be a scoop or guess wrong and draw in a crowd.
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It makes you wonder how easy it would be to contact a news agency during a time like this and pretend to be a solid source with real information. I've seen videos before on youtube of guys calling into CNN and pretending to be police and then swearing or whatever.. and this is LIVE too.. So desperate to get the story out there first..
http://www.youtube.com/results?searc....1.SxalRDLjfbw
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02-12-2013, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by silverdoctor
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If there is any sort of cover up this is where it will happen. I want to see how these trigger happy officers were disciplined.
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02-12-2013, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by huntingd
The media is a joke. Riverside says he's dead. La says they don't know. Maybe the riverside police spoke out of turn. Either way I'd believe they pulled him out and want airtight Identification before announcing but who knows.
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By morning they'll have dumped his body off an aircraft carrier and sold the movie rights
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02-12-2013, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by canadiantdi
It makes you wonder how easy it would be to contact a news agency during a time like this and pretend to be a solid source with real information. I've seen videos before on youtube of guys calling into CNN and pretending to be police and then swearing or whatever.. and this is LIVE too.. So desperate to get the story out there first..
http://www.youtube.com/results?searc....1.SxalRDLjfbw
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I think most reporters will have trusted sources or check before throwing a story out but as sundance said it happening in real time so maybe they don't have time.
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02-12-2013, 09:30 PM
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One of the cleaning ladies called in Dorner's location, if what i hear is correct...so, does she qualify for the $1 Mill??
Wonder how purdy she is, and marital status...
I'm joking....maybe.
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02-12-2013, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by huntingd
If there is any sort of cover up this is where it will happen. I want to see how these trigger happy officers were disciplined.
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I heard that the vehicle matched, had tinted windows, driving slowly, no lights on, getting dark out, threw a newspaper out the window.. got lit up. I'd be willing to bet that the discipline will be very very very light. I can't believe that no one was killed! They should be fired 100% in my opinion. Some mistakes are completely unacceptable.
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02-12-2013, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by canadiantdi
I heard that the vehicle matched, had tinted windows, driving slowly, no lights on, getting dark out, threw a newspaper out the window.. got lit up. I'd be willing to bet that the discipline will be very very very light. I can't believe that no one was killed! They should be fired 100% in my opinion. Some mistakes are completely unacceptable.
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I agree. I understand its a high pressure situation and they have their lives on the line. I've never done the job but shooting civilians is hard to take.
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02-12-2013, 09:45 PM
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I'm fairly sure if I knew a crazy guy in a Honda Civic was after me and I saw a Civic, I'd take cover and assess things. Don't think I'd open fire on it.
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02-12-2013, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Classic_Cool
I'm fairly sure if I knew a crazy guy in a Honda Civic was after me and I saw a Civic, I'd take cover and assess things. Don't think I'd open fire on it.
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Even if they threw a deadly newspaper???
Maybe LA has harsh littering penalties?
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02-12-2013, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by finsnfeathers
Even if they threw a deadly newspaper???
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Even if he had a pizza.
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02-12-2013, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by huntingd
I agree. I understand its a high pressure situation and they have their lives on the line. I've never done the job but shooting civilians is hard to take.
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Kinda thinking about this... i heard that Dorner was "spotted" on the freeway nearby shortly before the shooting.. If the police had reason to believe that it could be Dorner due to the slow moving vehicle, no lights.. and they saw something thrown towards the target house.. then they commanded the truck to stop and it didn't, would that be a justified shoot? I mean legally... I still don't agree with it because they didn't know for certain, but I can see them being cleared for this based on what they reasonably believed at the time... what do you think?
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02-12-2013, 10:01 PM
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Apperantly one of the guys they shot in a vehicle was white. You have to wonder how you confuse a white guy with a black guy.
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02-12-2013, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by canadiantdi
Kinda thinking about this... i heard that Dorner was "spotted" on the freeway nearby shortly before the shooting.. If the police had reason to believe that it could be Dorner due to the slow moving vehicle, no lights.. and they saw something thrown towards the target house.. then they commanded the truck to stop and it didn't, would that be a justified shoot? I mean legally... I still don't agree with it because they didn't know for certain, but I can see them being cleared for this based on what they reasonably believed at the time... what do you think?
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Not in my mind. They have to know for certain there was a weapon I would think. If it had been dorner in the vehicle they would be heros. It wasn't.
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02-12-2013, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by huntingd
Not in my mind. They have to know for certain there was a weapon I would think. If it had been dorner in the vehicle they would be heros. It wasn't.
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Instead of being heros they are just a bunch more out of control paramilitaries hosing down civilians with gun fire.
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02-12-2013, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by huntingd
Not in my mind. They have to know for certain there was a weapon I would think. If it had been dorner in the vehicle they would be heros. It wasn't.
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Well I like to believe this also, but people pulling out cellphones or wallets etc have been shot before.. and legally. I get it, I mean they can only do what they reasonably believe is right and necessary... I guess we'll see how this situation gets sorted out soon.
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02-12-2013, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BeeGuy
Instead of being heros they are just a bunch more out of control paramilitaries hosing down civilians with gun fire.
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That about sums it up.
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02-12-2013, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by canadiantdi
Well I like to believe this also, but people pulling out cellphones or wallets etc have been shot before.. and legally. I get it, I mean they can only do what they reasonably believe is right and necessary... I guess we'll see how this situation gets sorted out soon.
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My thoughts on this are if they reasonably believe engaging a vehicle with firearms before positively identifying its occupants is right and necessary they don't belong in a uniform. Even under a pressure situation it is inexcusable.
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02-12-2013, 11:21 PM
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02-12-2013, 11:50 PM
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Only in America .
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02-13-2013, 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by canadiantdi
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He is dead? It is over? Justice is served?
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02-13-2013, 01:33 AM
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He is dead? It is over? Justice is served?
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Not "officially" confirmed but yeah, he had a gun fight with the police, shot himself and cooked in the fire. Unless he has a twin he's done.
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