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Why wouldn’t you include northwestern bc? Have the ocean. Been working the area for the last year, they are more rednck anti Trudeau than probably anywhere from what I’ve seen. Same with Prince George.
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Northern BC would be far more likely to take that deal than Yukon... they have a larger demograph that actually works for a living, for someone other than the government.
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I'm gonna do a Nancy Regan and just say no, no ,no and no to all this government's BS. Just when you thought they could not do anything more stupid than their last stupid move, one of their brainless (hell, they are all brainless) minions come up with another stellar idea. Only in turdos ottawa.
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So where is the plan to update the electrical grid to charge them all, and where will the electricity come from? As it is we get electricity alerts during cold spells.
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12-21-2022, 03:40 PM
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I'm also always surprised at not just the reluctance, but the adamant opposition to the idea of separation. I'd vote for it in a hot second.
I'm sick and tired of all the More Special situations (like the huge cement manufacturer in QC that is exempt from the carbon emissions rules) and so on and so forth. Time to carry on and go our own way. If SK MB and parts of BC, YK want to join the party, better yet.
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The rest of canada just wants us for our money
That’s it
I’m tired of supporting people that don’t want to support themselves
Time to separate
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12-21-2022, 03:41 PM
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So where is the plan to update the electrical grid to charge them all, and where will the electricity come from? As it is we get electricity alerts during cold spells.
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That’s going to cost trillions
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12-21-2022, 04:06 PM
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Totally insane, as has been mentioned our electrical grids are already under stress, I can't imagine plugging in a few million vehicles daily during normal times, never mind during winter and during peak hours in summer with air conditions on full tilt.
I forget the figure but if Canada achieves 100% carbon neutrality isn't it only 3% or is it .03% of the worlds carbon emission?
I've read the cost of replacing a battery on an EV is upwards of 25-30,000 dollars, who the heck can afford that after dishing out 50-90 grand on an EV!!!!!
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12-21-2022, 04:10 PM
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I favor separtion as well but didn't really know how it works myself. I'm sure there is much more to it than this but this article taught me a few things i didnt know.
https://www.constitutionalstudies.ca...e/?print=print
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Totally insane, as has been mentioned our electrical grids are already under stress, I can't imagine plugging in a few million vehicles daily during normal times, never mind during winter and during peak hours in summer with air conditions on full tilt.
I forget the figure but if Canada achieves 100% carbon neutrality isn't it only 3% or is it .03% of the worlds carbon emission?
I've read the cost of replacing a battery on an EV is upwards of 25-30,000 dollars, who the heck can afford that after dishing out 50-90 grand on an EV!!!!!
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I feel like that is the point. Make everything so expensive that you wipe out the middle class and create a society where 90% of the population relies on the government for everything.
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12-21-2022, 04:26 PM
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The rest of canada just wants us for our money
That’s it
I’m tired of supporting people that don’t want to support themselves
Time to separate
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Northern Montana has a nice ring to it. Home of open carry and cheap copenhagen
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12-21-2022, 04:30 PM
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So where is the plan to update the electrical grid to charge them all, and where will the electricity come from? As it is we get electricity alerts during cold spells.
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The electricity?
It comes out of the wall. Doesn't it?
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12-21-2022, 04:47 PM
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Don't understand what all the fuss is about.
Just gotta live in a yurt and ride your Yak to work.
I'm sure that's how Justin gets to his private jet...
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I feel like that is the point. Make everything so expensive that you wipe out the middle class and create a society where 90% of the population relies on the government for everything.
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Is there any plan to add a road tax to the use of electric vehicles? They are heavier and I would assume that means they're harder on the roads. A big chunk of our fuel prices is tax.
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Here's a quick video that makes sense to me. It's in the USA but same point. https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMFnVdKrg/
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Yes, he nails it perfectly. And in a way less outraged way then I could pull off.
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12-21-2022, 05:22 PM
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I feel like that is the point. Make everything so expensive that you wipe out the middle class and create a society where 90% of the population relies on the government for everything.
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It’s called Socialism. I have lived the first 23 years of my life thru that crap. Not again!
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12-21-2022, 05:43 PM
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So where is the plan to update the electrical grid to charge them all, and where will the electricity come from? As it is we get electricity alerts during cold spells.
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Well Elk11...we finally agree with something!...hehe...
All this woke Bull Bowel Movement (BS) from Trudeau and his conquistadors is to satisfy his buddies from WEF. Let's no forget that. He still wants a seat there. Which I will not comment further.
I, and others, have said for quite some time that an adequate infrastructure needs to be built first. We don't have it! That won't happen for at least 20+ years, or more. City slugs don't get that yet.
My buddy's son is a manager for a large electrical supply business in Calgary. Head Office folded and installed some "charging stations" there. First of all, these are hardly used. And guess what...many of them have been put out of commission because thieves are cutting off the cables for the copper. Do we hear about that? Nope. I'm sure if it happens there...happens in many other places too.
How many stories have we heard already in places like Southern California? Power blackouts because of excessive demands. And during their wildfire seasons? No power, and many EVs got stranded, and some burnt down because they couldn't go anywhere. Not much media coverage on that.
You think Canada is ready for this? Absolutely not. And they won't be for quite awhile. Virtue signaling at best.
Some have brought up some very good and valid points about the present temperatures, especially in rural areas that we are presently experiencing. I live in a rural area, so I know. Ain't gonna work!
But that is just me, what do I know, and my rant is over...
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Totally insane, as has been mentioned our electrical grids are already under stress, I can't imagine plugging in a few million vehicles daily during normal times, never mind during winter and during peak hours in summer with air conditions on full tilt.
I forget the figure but if Canada achieves 100% carbon neutrality isn't it only 3% or is it .03% of the worlds carbon emission?
I've read the cost of replacing a battery on an EV is upwards of 25-30,000 dollars, who the heck can afford that after dishing out 50-90 grand on an EV!!!!!
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I’ve got a lithium ion battery that lasted 2 charges on an ebike and I can’t get rid of it as no one can recycle it. Into the garbage and to the landfill it goes, recycling at its finest!!
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It’s called Socialism. I have lived the first 23 years of my life thru that crap. Not again!
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Agreed. Socialism is just a polite word used in the west to not get people suspicious. The flip side of socialism is called communism.
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Proud to be Albertan, ashamed to be canadian.
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This cartoon is more than 100 years old.
And still we're not fed up with the east enough to do something?
Alberta just works harder to put up with all the extra theft. And it works, because Alberta is that great.
At some point we have to kick out the freeloaders.
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Wondering why they haven't mandated every home to go to electric heat, after all nothing comes out of the chimney right? If they want to overload and short out the electrical grid that should do it in no time flat. No Gas, petroleum, oil, electricity, wood is to dirty. That should set them right up for the next global step of incinerating taxpayers to heat globalist homes.
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My Daughter and Son in-law bought a electric car 2 years ago. This vehicle served a practical purpose driving in Edmonton only. There is no way they would have considered leaving the Edmonton city limits to drive out in - 30 C conditions with small children. They have come to realize that it is far more practical to have a reliable safe gasoline vehicle that saves time and money, safe to drive 300 miles on a tank of gasoline in - 30 C conditions with out having to go out of their way to search for a charging station. Much to my relief they sold this electric car experiment.
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Of course it makes our lives better. Cheap energy is why Canada has prospered as much as it has, and why so many no longer live in true poverty. If the goal was to give people high quality living standards then there’d be no carbon tax and we’d be flat out drilling for oil.
The goal is to control people and use climate change as the excuse to implement the control. You know that’s true because if it was about the environment they’d be pushing Nuclear energy hard to get the power output we need for the “green” economy.
Check out this article from Forbes in 2016 to get an idea what’s coming.
“ My biggest concern is all the people who do not live in our city. Those we lost on the way. Those who decided that it became too much, all this technology.”
https://www.forbes.com/sites/worldec...h=452931841735
But the WEF is a conspiracy theory, they wouldn’t be trying to change human behaviours and set up a digital ID which the Vax pass was a trial for would they?
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Wind turbines going up all over Alberta. In about 100 years maybe we will be there.
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It’s called Socialism. I have lived the first 23 years of my life thru that crap. Not again!
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Well at least some other Canadians know what’s going on.
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If someone really cared about the environment, their first priority would be to lift people out of poverty. With as much coal and fossil fuel and coal as it takes. But no one really does. They are worried about themselves. No one else. Let alone the environment.
Regarding carbon emissions. Is there one shred of actual evidence that it is damaging the earth? I’m old enough to remember when the poster children for this climate crisis were Polar Bears and trees. Well that was a failure of epic proportions. Both have thrived on my carbon footprint apparently.
We know Justin has ZERO clue about firearms. We know this. Yet he is making laws about them. So why in the world would we think he’s capable of navigating the desire to change the world’s weather?
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Wind turbines going up all over Alberta. In about 100 years maybe we will be there.
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I doubt it. There will never be an economical or feasible way to store any amount of power for when the sun isn't shining or the wind isn't blowing. Thinking there will be is a pipe dream. To think otherwise is naïve
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I'm also always surprised at not just the reluctance, but the adamant opposition to the idea of separation. I'd vote for it in a hot second.
I'm sick and tired of all the More Special situations (like the huge cement manufacturer in QC that is exempt from the carbon emissions rules) and so on and so forth. Time to carry on and go our own way. If SK MB and parts of BC, YK want to join the party, better yet.
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Agree 100%. I've been promoting for years at least our own cops & pension to get us started. Some leverage for a better deal for Albertans & avoiding FED/GTA/Montreal/Vancouver malarkey foisted upon us.
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