My Lake X Rant...

[Walleyes]

Originally Posted by packhuntr

Relax guys. Big fish are where you FIND THEM. Pin em down, fish them hard and it is possible to bury the iron on one. That said X is the only place I fish anymore.... The fishing is nothing short of fantastic. Wanna see some more slammer pike pics Walleyes?? Nahhh, I didnt think so.

Like I always say,, The only reason God made Pike is for the peolpe who can't catch Walleye...

[noslack]

Originally Posted by Walleyes

Like I always say,, The only reason God made Pike is for the peolpe who can't catch Walleye...

[WayneChristie]

Originally Posted by Walleyes

Like I always say,, The only reason God made Pike is for the peolpe who can't catch Walleye...

[big]

Originally Posted by Banger

I am all about not sharing your good fishing spots. But i personally am not going to come on here and tell you about how great of a spot it is and how many fish i caught. Some things you can just keep to your self. But some people like to puff out their chest and tell everyone how great they are.

who cares if you show off about fishing. i mean seriously its fishing...its a joke sport. its not like i think i'm great t when i limit out. i just like to think that i'm extremely lucky for going on a day when they're biting.

but if i go end to end dangling the whole team and going bar down

thats something to puff your chest out about.

[smitty9]

Just another perspective/angle to add:

Keep in mind that SRD's budget has been cut. Positions have been cut, less enforcement, less biologist, less management on an overutilized resource (at least in some waterbodies).

So yes, sorry, but i can't trust some of the faceless internet people out there. So I'll gladly help with the how to catch, when to catch, and what to use. But where?

That's a judgment call.

Were some people actually insinuating that if I only help by offering help on what, when, how, but not where I am not being helpful? That's ludicrous!

I'm not going to tell you where I can catch native cutts or athabascan rainbows. And since they get fished out so quickly - often after the word is spread on the internet - , and their worth more than gold nowadays, no, I am not going to tell you my best perch humpie holes. That's not selfish; its prudence, its good judgement, because you never know when the word finally gets out, the 2nd, or 5th or 11th person in line is an idiot/ignorant poacher.

Some fisheries are fragile, and its because they're simply not a priority. 2010 AB fisheries management frankly does not allow us the luxury of just pointing fish are here, here and here. Sorry, that just would be dumb.

Plus, its called using the search function on this site. Its called reading the regs and the stocking lists. Its called buying Barry's AB Fishing Guide, and its called doing your homework.

Now having said that, I have no problem pointing out exactly where to catch walleye in Pigeon, or rainbows out of the many put and take lakes. Clearly, a lot of our lakes are popular and the ship has sailed in terms of false sense of secrecy. I mean, Wabamun has big jacks by the warm water discharge? Holy...I can't believe I let that one slip!

So use your head and common sense. Not every spot needs to be published and shared. I say that with a sense of balance and protection for the future...

Smitty

[Walleyes]

Good point smitty..
But,, if you want to keep it secret and its not about chest pounding then why even put it on here.. I got no problem if some want to keep a secret. Fine keep it but don't come on here and look for gratuity and not give info,,one or the other,, secret or give it up..

There is no room for a braggart in my world.. Only room for fellow outdoorsman..

Sylvan Lake,, Lake X,,

[superspud]

i agree 100% with the lake x thing.
it takes tons of work to find the best spots and to learn rivers or lakes like the back of your hand.

i dont mind helping people out, but honestly i dont really know any of you and therefore i dont really trust you. no offence i hope. (and when i say you i mean the 100's of people who read the board)

tons of people poach, use barbed hooks and pratice wack and stack your freezer kind of fishing. which is fine for the people who do it, but thats not the way i fish.

i prefer to respect my enviroment.
therefore, if i get to know you and learn your fishing habits, and learn your not going also going to protect a resource then i am more then happy to share spots with you.
just pm a guy i bet he will take you fishing and let you in on a ton of tips

and i do not think that is poor sportsman or outdoorsmanship like conduct.
part of being a outdoorsman is protecting the enviroment from potential poachers and abusers.

[RedFisher]

Originally Posted by superspud

i agree 100% with the lake x thing.
it takes tons of work to find the best spots and to learn rivers or lakes like the back of your hand.

i dont mind helping people out, but honestly i dont really know any of you and therefore i dont really trust you. no offence i hope. (and when i say you i mean the 100's of people who read the board)

tons of people poach, use barbed hooks and pratice wack and stack your freezer kind of fishing. which is fine for the people who do it, but thats not the way i fish.

i prefer to respect my enviroment.
therefore, if i get to know you and learn your fishing habits, and learn your not going also going to protect a resource then i am more then happy to share spots with you.
just pm a guy i bet he will take you fishing and let you in on a ton of tips

and i do not think that is poor sportsman or outdoorsmanship like conduct.
part of being a outdoorsman is protecting the enviroment from potential poachers and abusers.

Thanks...

[spopadyn]

Quote:
Originally Posted by RedFisher
nice perch.... where abouts did you get those..

Posted by spopadyn
Funny how a guy like you who keeps his spots secret wants to know where this guy caught his fish> Funny.....

Posted by RedFisher
You know what go **** yourself ... that all .... and read what i asked N E S W ... i was not asking for exact spot i was just trying to figure out if they were picking up by lac la biche ... i was not asking for an exact spot just a general idea. ....

Look at how offended RedFisher got on the other thread, even though he was asking. I don't get guys like him. Nothing personal, but you are a guy who doesn't practice what you preach. Keep up the chest pounding you fish slaying titan!

[RedFisher]

Originally Posted by spopadyn

Quote:
Originally Posted by RedFisher
nice perch.... where abouts did you get those..

Posted by spopadyn
Funny how a guy like you who keeps his spots secret wants to know where this guy caught his fish> Funny.....

Posted by RedFisher
You know what go **** yourself ... that all .... and read what i asked N E S W ... i was not asking for exact spot i was just trying to figure out if they were picking up by lac la biche ... i was not asking for an exact spot just a general idea. ....

Look at how offended RedFisher got on the other thread, even though he was asking. I don't get guys like him. Nothing personal, but you are a guy who doesn't practice what you preach. Keep up the chest pounding you fish slaying titan!

Wow we sure know who can read

RedFisher

LOL... just wondering North EAST SOUTH OR WEST... im heading out to lac. la biche ... soon for some perch and wondering if there picking up or not..
Reply With Quote Multi-Quote This Message

read the whole post... helloo.. anybody home

[nicemustang]

Wow this has probably gone on long enough. At least I know now who not to give information to via pm. Thanks for narrowing down the idiots.

[Walleyes]

Yah but,, Sylvan Lake,,, lake X ???

That's like going to a Nice little Ukrainian Restaurant on the weekend,, eating perogies and not telling anyone where it was cause your scared they will get there and eat them all before you..

Sylvan Lake,, Lake X

[nicemustang]

Hey yeah I hear ya! Definitely a strange motive.

[RedFisher]

Originally Posted by Walleyes

Yah but,, Sylvan Lake,,, lake X ???

That's like going to a Nice little Ukrainian Restaurant on the weekend,, eating perogies and not telling anyone where it was cause your scared they will get there and eat them all before you..

Sylvan Lake,, Lake X

Hell no im aint going to go to no resturant if i want perogies ... im going into my freezer and eat some home made ones... ...damit now im crazing them ...

[addicted]

true, enough said

[spopadyn]

Walleyes, you are now my favourite poster - bar none. Redfisher thinks he is saving the world by not telling anyone Sylvan Lake has burbot. Whoa! That guy has to slow down or the two other lakes he fishes will also be poached to death. PS - where can I find some good perogies! Now Red will call us both ******************ing idiots (he doesn't ever use the correct amount of stars!)

[flynick]

if it was like some of the other forums i have joined.... i actualy contribute to... you must be signed in to view some certain information..... would that work better?

[RedFisher]

Originally Posted by spopadyn

Walleyes, you are now my favourite poster - bar none. Redfisher thinks he is saving the world by not telling anyone Sylvan Lake has burbot. Whoa! That guy has to slow down or the two other lakes he fishes will also be poached to death. PS - where can I find some good perogies! Now Red will call us both ******************ing idiots (he doesn't ever use the correct amount of stars!)

you can find good perogies in edmonton ... opps City X ... off of 97 st & 167 ... Shrumka ...or should i say store Z ..

[BBJTKLE&FISHINGADVENTURES]

I agree and disagree with Folks posting Lake X or whatever they might call it .

People in the past years have gotten lazy . Not many guys going out and getting there own hot spots , they resort to the Internet , Myself included .
I think its a great tool to help , people who wanna go out have a good time , hook into a few fish. But Where I think its wrong is that people are relying on Exact spots where fish are being caught .

I know myself have stopped posting where I catch fish Including Pictures , as being pressed into everyone wanting to know the Hot spot , Or argue whatever , Simply got sick of it . Not to mention the Huge amounts of people showing up where we might be at . I know offer , you wanna message me I will probably tell you where to go . Probably wont give out the Hot spot , but will give an area .

I think as The Internet forums grow larger and larger every year , people are going to continue to take the lazy way out . Instead of cutting a new trail , drilling a few holes and if nothing move on . And continue to do so until you get into fish . I know this is what I like to do . Maybe gain a little Information , on how a lake is fishing , or Ice thickness , or whatever , I could careless if you give me your Hot spot ( Honey Hole ) .

I was always taught that half the fun is finding the fish , I guess this is why I like hunting also . So much Thrill in the stalk . Its not even about catching all those fish . But Ill admit thats fun to . SO remember dont be rude , just simply give basic Information . Lakes are huge places . Lets get along instead of Bickering back and forth.

REMEMBER WERE IN THIS SPORT TOGETHER INSTEAD OF MAKING IT A BIG SECRET .

[Walleyes]

Yup my sweetie makes all the perogies this old dog can eat beleive me,,( cause I married a good Ukrainian girl from Vegreville).. Fish on the other hand I am on my own..

[trophybook]

wonder who that would be?

[RedFisher]

LOL... ...Veg .... thats where im from ... **** small world after all....

[Jack&7]

Originally Posted by flynick

if it was like some of the other forums i have joined.... i actualy contribute to... you must be signed in to view some certain information..... would that work better?

I've been on forums with that format as well. It's a nice idea...but really, in the grand scheme of things, is the fact that someone doesn't want to tell me where they went fishing going to stop me from going anyway? If it does and I feel the need to berate that person for not telling me...I need to sell the fishing equipment and take up lawn bowling.

Originally Posted by BIGBADJOHN

I agree and disagree with Folks posting Lake X or whatever they might call it .

People in the past years have gotten lazy . Not many guys going out and getting there own hot spots , they resort to the Internet , Myself included .
I think its a great tool to help , people who wanna go out have a good time , hook into a few fish. But Where I think its wrong is that people are relying on Exact spots where fish are being caught .

I know myself have stopped posting where I catch fish Including Pictures , as being pressed into everyone wanting to know the Hot spot , Or argue whatever , Simply got sick of it . Not to mention the Huge amounts of people showing up where we might be at . I know offer , you wanna message me I will probably tell you where to go . Probably wont give out the Hot spot , but will give an area .

I think as The Internet forums grow larger and larger every year , people are going to continue to take the lazy way out . Instead of cutting a new trail , drilling a few holes and if nothing move on . And continue to do so until you get into fish . I know this is what I like to do . Maybe gain a little Information , on how a lake is fishing , or Ice thickness , or whatever , I could careless if you give me your Hot spot ( Honey Hole ) .

I was always taught that half the fun is finding the fish , I guess this is why I like hunting also . So much Thrill in the stalk . Its not even about catching all those fish . But Ill admit thats fun to . SO remember dont be rude , just simply give basic Information . Lakes are huge places . Lets get along instead of Bickering back and forth.

REMEMBER WERE IN THIS SPORT TOGETHER INSTEAD OF MAKING IT A BIG SECRET .

You hit that nail on the head, BBJ. Can't agree more.

[Fishfinder]

Originally Posted by Walleyes

Like I always say,, The only reason God made Pike is for the peolpe who can't catch Walleye...

I wanna agree with u but can't. Depends on where one fishes right? I can catch Pike or Wallys. Depends on circumstance. Why u choose to defend ur walleye ( even though that is not really the ? at hand) is your choice. Have u ever fought a 5 ft pike? Till then, keep tellin us of ur tuff wally fights. When I personally am searchin for LARGE pike or sturg, I often end up with Walleye on the end of my line. Maybe it's jus me..... but i think Walleye are the easiest fish to catch.... Very easy..jus gotta locate

This is where location differs.

[DeanP]

Okay, this is exactly why I joined this site: for info. I am relatively new to AB. Grew up in B.C. (25yrs there), we had only one species of fish: rainbow trout. (at least while I was there, central B.C.)
So now I'm here in AB and there are many species to which I haven't a clue on how to catch on hard water. I was the guy buying all of those "shiney" lures thinking:"boy! this should work" to which was usually unsuccessful.

I have now bought enough open water stuff that I do okay. But I just started hard water, and I am searching the internet for clues. I have obtained enough info to be able to land lakers, burbot and pike, all in relatively a small amount of time of learning on how.
So, I guess if I grew up anywhere else in Canada, where there are multiple species, then I wouldn't have to seek out info. But because I spent 25 yrs fishing only one specie, I have to learn fast cause 25yrs from now, I'll be almost too old to go!

My only quest now is to catch a perch; I've heard/read lots about these great little fish but have yet to catch one.

[adventures]

A good topic, and I know it’s been brought up before. One of the reasons I joined this board was for the information exchange it provides and to read about other’s success or lack of it. In the pre-internet days I used to regularly call the FH Hotline for their weekly updates. While a bit vague, it helped point me in the right direction at least. Early message boards were also helpful, and I found I contributed more reports back then, and then I stopped simply because very few others were reporting. I do understand why we shouldn’t always post detailed info on specific spots on a lake or on a small lake for example, so in some reports the Lake X thing is necessary. But that being said I’d really like to see more reports (hot or cold) coming in from the hundreds/thousands of fishers who use this site as an information source. I agree with nicemustang who doesn’t believe that posting info on the net is the main reason why a lake falls. As others have said before it’s the reactive SRD management, mother nature, etc. that contribute more to collapsing fisheries. I can think back to the mid 70’s when I first started icefishing with my Dad and the lakes we went to seemed a lot busier than today. Long, La Nonne, Fork, North Buck were fantastic quality perch fisheries, but they seemed much busier in the past than in recent years - and the fishing was much better even with what looked like heavy pressure and obviously higher kill rates compared to today. It may be true that message boards are putting some extra pressure on lakes that are mentioned, but I’m not sure how much or if it’s significant.

I’m guessing hundreds of members and readers went fishing over the past week, but not a lot of report threads. Some report info does make it into other threads, but overall it makes up for a lesser amount of the content of the board. I’m guilty too. I’ve been out a few times this year and haven’t offered a single report. So that will change, as I’m trying to get out at least a few more times before the season shuts down next month. I also like the PM idea to contact anglers directly to share info (should be a two way street). The other idea of limiting page views or content to members only is another good idea, but I guess it limits traffic/ad rates which is important to the hosts.
Keep up the excellent content and discussions guys & gals, and for what it’s worth I’d like to encourage more legit reports being posted.

Jim

[albertadave]

There's fish in Sylvan Lake??? Who knew?? Glad you told us that redfisher, now I'm going to go out to your secret lake and catch them,......all of them. BTW, if you guys think fishermen are secretive about their spots I've got news for you, they've got nothing on sheep hunters. Go over to the hunting discussion and start a thread asking for a good location to shoot a ram and see how far you get.

[fish-man]

Originally Posted by Walleyes

Like I always say,, The only reason God made Pike is for the peolpe who can't catch Walleye...

That's funny, I thought walleye were made to be pike food

[moosehunter3-0]

seriously you guys are a complete joke. If someone doesnt want to include a location just dont comment if it really doesnt bother you. No sense in ***** footing your way around this forum when someone doesnt share information you demand from them hahaha. In the "lake X" post he was simply stating the ling are picking up, does the lake really matter? Figure it out.

[Shmag]

Well i work every other week-end, and it kills me not to get out especially with the mild winter this year. I do enjoy reading stories of how the week-end fishing was and really enjoy checking out the pictures and i usually give them congrats on a good day on the water. If they don't post what lake they are at or post Lake X, well thats just fine by me. It's still nice to know they are out there "somewhere"