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05-05-2016, 12:12 PM
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They don't need Canadian oil anymore!
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They will need Canadian oil for quite a while......
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05-05-2016, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Huntnfish
Man he's such a breath of fresh air. I love watching all the establishment crooks scramble and squirm as he gets more popular. Also all the loud-mouth lefties who have called him a joke and swore up and down that he wouldn't last a month are now crapping their pants.
I just wonder how he's going to survive all of these psychos once he's elected. Not to mention that the guy said that he eats bacon, sausage and eggs every morning....even a chunker like me knows that you cant do that.
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The military-industrial complex is squirming very much with the idea of Trump becoming Commander in Chief.
They apparently already have their own Republican candidate in place and ready to roll - General James Mattis - who will maintain the gravy train and keep the establishment happy.
One can only speculate about Trumps survival and how these psychos will get their guy in. Military coup? Suspended elections? Mattias - vs - Trump?
It's anybody's guess but these guys are deadly serious about continuing with their game plan.
http://patriotrising.com/2016/05/04/...-versus-trump/
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05-05-2016, 01:26 PM
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What about Bloomberg? He was suppose to run as an independent but I haven't heard anything about him lately. He is the only other guy who can win over Trump.
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05-05-2016, 01:36 PM
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Bloomberg is too anti-gun, not a chance in hell. Clinton's ol man did a gun ban awhile back, voters don't forget.
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05-05-2016, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by avb3
I must say I was wrong about Trump. There I said it.
I never thought that the Republican party would lower itself to have a loud mouth misanthrope as their nominee.
Now I'm going to have to say that I can't imagine the mouth that roared will be elected, even with Clinton being as disliked as she is. I can't see the volunteers on the ground working to GOTV for him, and that's what is going to be required.
But I've been proven wrong once before. He scares the bejesus out of me.
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If people like you don't like him then he must be a solid candidate to run a western country.
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05-05-2016, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott h
They will need Canadian oil for quite a while......
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Yup - Oil imports from Canada now surpass imports from the Mid East.
http://investmentwatchblog.com/this-...past-15-years/
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05-05-2016, 02:14 PM
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Better a businessman moonlighting as a politician, then a career politician moonlighting as a businessman/woman. The States need a firm hand on the tiller to steer her back to the waters of common sense and prosperity. I have for many years wondered how and why the electorate put up with all the illegal immigration, and the incredible costs associated with it. Muslim extremists.....who in their right mind is in favor of them. I agree that the many nations that have rushed to look proper on the world stage should slow down and take a good hard look at all of the Muslim refugee's and immigrants coming into the western nations and vette them with greater diligence. I don't for a second believe they are all bad. In reality I'm sure the vast majority are not militant, but how many does it take to cause mass destruction.........only a few really. The Paris attacks were carried out by a handful were they not?
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05-05-2016, 02:15 PM
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05-05-2016, 02:20 PM
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Jackie Gleason for Prez! Trump won't be the first entertainer president but he may very well be the last president entertainer.
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05-05-2016, 02:38 PM
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The left is scared witless. The crooked establishment of both left and right feels very threatened by Trump. This shakedown is overdue. The vehement over the top resistance to Trump is very telling. May the expose continue. I hope Trump has good security.
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05-05-2016, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Bushrat
The left is scared witless. The crooked establishment of both left and right feels very threatened by Trump. This shakedown is overdue. The vehement over the top resistance to Trump is very telling. May the expose continue. I hope Trump has good security.
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Trump may very well have the left as his ally when he gets attacked by the neocons. It's going to get real weird very quickly.
The Bush Dynasty has announced today Daddy, Dubya and Jeb will not be attending the Republican National Convention.
Trump and his family will need very good security.
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05-05-2016, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by JimPS
Trump may very well have the left as his ally when he gets attacked by the neocons. It's going to get real weird very quickly.
The Bush Dynasty has announced today Daddy, Dubya and Jeb will not be attending the Republican National Convention.
Trump and his family will need very good security.
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Weird is a very good way to put it. While I support him over the other options, I don't feel he would have been better than Rand Paul.
He will do a good job of exposing some corruption, but he will likely become part of a new coverup of some sort.
What is also interesting the the whole kerfuffle over the 28 pages of the 9/11 Commission's report. It just goes to show the level of corruption that has been in place.
If the Bushes won't be at the RNC, it is probably not safe for anyone..
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05-05-2016, 03:54 PM
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The Bush Dynasty has announced today Daddy, Dubya and Jeb will not be attending the Republican National Convention.
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that is quite the endorsement of Donald Trump
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05-05-2016, 04:07 PM
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Since his run for the nomination began, Trump has been mopping the floor with people who call him names or accuse him of poor behaviour and he gets stronger as a result. He is the right man for the times and l hope he has decided on Ben Carson as a running mate, he will make a great straight man, kinda like Cherry and MacClean.
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05-05-2016, 04:14 PM
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If he picks Ben Carson as his running mate, at the very least there is going to be some awesome political cartoons with Trump having a Neuro surgeon as his potential VP...
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05-05-2016, 04:57 PM
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If he picks Ben Carson as his running mate, at the very least there is going to be some awesome political cartoons with Trump having a Neuro surgeon as his potential VP...
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Perhaps he would be too much of a challenge to correct even for someone of Dr. Carson's talents.
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05-05-2016, 06:34 PM
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Trumper said he is going to tear up NAFTA with Canada and Mexico. He thinks we are taking all the American jobs. The fool does not realize that the Americans wanted to secure Alberta's oil for their use by signing NAFTA.
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On that note I would vote for trump. Please tear up nafta!
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05-05-2016, 06:43 PM
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I think it's pretty good when you can get a successful billionaire who cares enough about his country to take time away from his business for the benefit of his country. Very generous and altruistic of him.
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Very well stated Rug. "Lefty socialists" hate anyone with a brain and a drive to succeed(he is a capitalist billionaire,over and over) and a vision for the future and also would try to make a country back into what it once was. For most communist("read" I hate hard working,driven capitalist people), socialist types, this is pure blasphemy.
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05-05-2016, 06:48 PM
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I have never liked Donald Trump as a person. The guy is one big EGO and not my style whatsoever. That said there are lots of successful businessmen and others who I don't care for that have different value/moral systems than me that still get the job done.
Trump is not going to be any kind of savior. He is no hero. But I think he is confronting one of the biggest issues of today. That being the bent to political correctness over baldass unadulterated logic. He says what he thinks and doesn't apologize for it. I do respect that. For the first time in a long time a political player is actually leading rather than being led by party lines and media bias. Just what the US needed. Much of what he says is what others are thinking but have been shunned into not saying. Today we are expected to tow the line the media and certain outspoken members of society decide or we are made out to be just bad people...probably Nazi's of barbarians. I mean how dare one question a person who ignores the rules and enters a country illegally. How dare someone put more scrutiny to a visitor who comes from a country facing rampant terrorism. Nazi!
Cutting the PC crap is IMO the biggest reason he is getting the numbers. I know I'm tired of seeing the media and political establishment play puppetmaster and dictate what we should think. I am very happy to see anyone stand up to that BS whether I agree with them on every view and opinion or not. They all hate him but he is making them his biotch and making them eat crow which is amusing to watch.
As a Canadian dependant on US business I am somewhat worried at the proposed protectionism but at the same time I do think he makes some very valid points about what would be best for the US. From Footing all the military bills around the world to selling out their manufacturing whilst the same companies reap the rewards of selling back to key US consumers. Every outside country is floundering to find a reason to discount his comments...I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that they will lose as the US gains back jobs
In the face of a strengthening China and Russia along with many other countries asserting their dominance the US needs a strong leader who isn't afraid to stand strong. Can't think of a better person than Trump. People might hate him...so frickin' what. Do we like Putin? But he's getting it done for Russia. Career politician Clinton most definitely will be a waffling pawn to the establishment.
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On that note I would vote for trump. Please tear up nafta!
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So then we REALLY need a pipeline to tidewater, rather than going to the States. Oh, and our cattle industry? Guess we're just going to have to sell that ... where? Hey, why not trade it to the Saudi's for that oil!
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05-05-2016, 07:32 PM
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So then we REALLY need a pipeline to tidewater, rather than going to the States. Oh, and our cattle industry? Guess we're just going to have to sell that ... where? Hey, why not trade it to the Saudi's for that oil!
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We REALLY need a pipeline to tidewater either way....but the Global Warming Alarmists are fighting it every inch of the way.....
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We REALLY need a pipeline to tidewater either way....but the Global Warming Alarmists are fighting it every inch of the way.....
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Different topic, and one I'm not touching until the Ft. Mac thing settles down a bit. Not the time or place, and frankly, a bit concerned that my son has to be downtown there overnight.
As far as Trump is concerned, as someone just put it, he is the icing on the fruitcake.
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05-05-2016, 08:24 PM
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Different topic, and one I'm not touching until the Ft. Mac thing settles down a bit. Not the time or place, and frankly, a bit concerned that my son has to be downtown there overnight.
As far as Trump is concerned, as someone just put it, he is the icing on the fruitcake.
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Sorry, I thought this thread was about the possibility of Trump becoming president.... hope your son and all the rest of the crews there stay safe...
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Maybe we can start charging the US more for our oil instead of giving it away?
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Don't forget water and Electricity.
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05-05-2016, 08:37 PM
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So then we REALLY need a pipeline to tidewater, rather than going to the States. Oh, and our cattle industry? Guess we're just going to have to sell that ... where? Hey, why not trade it to the Saudi's for that oil!
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Watch some interviews of Canadian Lawyers who worked on the NAFTA agreement on behalf of the United States and they say we got screwed over royally.....
Forget building pipelines. Lets start investing that money into industries to make products that then can be sold around the world.
Cant see why we give it away for next for nothing, bankroll private pipelines with taxpayers dollars... AND THEN PAY THROUGH THE NOSE TO BUY FINISHED PRODUCTS BACK! STUPIDITY
This country was strong when we made sh*t. Were not strong by buying SH*T....
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Sorry, I thought this thread was about the possibility of Trump becoming president.... hope your son and all the rest of the crews there stay safe...
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No problem, Hal, you're well aware on my stance of climate change, but while stuff is going on up there, I'm no about to get into any kind of mix that may sidetrack into issues surrounding that topic. What is happening in Ft. Mac is now, and it affects way to many people, and I bet there isn't a person on this board who doesn't know at least 3 families affected. I'll let the ably represented regressive left go down that path.
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Watch some interviews of Canadian Lawyers who worked on the NAFTA agreement on behalf of the United States and they say we got screwed over royally.....
Forget building pipelines. Lets start investing that money into industries to make products that then can be sold around the world.
Cant see why we give it away for next for nothing, bankroll private pipelines with taxpayers dollars... AND THEN PAY THROUGH THE NOSE TO BUY FINISHED PRODUCTS BACK! STUPIDITY
This country was strong when we made sh*t. Were not strong by buying SH*T....
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The cost of manufacturing is so high in Canada, mainly because of unions, that it is very difficult to sell anything made in Canada on the world market......not impossible mind you, just difficult.
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The cost of manufacturing is so high in Canada, mainly because of unions, that it is very difficult to sell anything made in Canada on the world market......not impossible mind you, just difficult.
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The reason for that is not unions or any labor movement. It is globalization and supposed free trade. Our jobs head to china where a product is made for next to nothing but sold for the same price in our markets as if it was made here. It allows for massive corporate profits with none of the societal costs of making it. Those companies pay next to no wages, no benefits, no future for the workers and next to nothing in taxes.
Its a bad system.
Id rather buy a Canadian cell phone. I mean that little piece of crap costs $1000 bux either way.
Unfortunately people believe that our high wages make it unprofitable. It is still very profitable.
Our banks have been making Billions of dollars a year for quite a while. Its only been the last few years that they started answering phones in India for us. They were profitable before and they are still profitable now.
All this done for supposed "SHAREHOLDER VALUE"
One thing I agree with trump. I am a protectionist when it comes to my country! Put up the wall.... kick em out..... Just kidding......... I think.
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Originally Posted by JimPS
Trump may very well have the left as his ally when he gets attacked by the neocons. It's going to get real weird very quickly.
The Bush Dynasty has announced today Daddy, Dubya and Jeb will not be attending the Republican National Convention.
Trump and his family will need very good security.
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I can think of 28 reasons the Bushes won't be there.
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The reason for that is not unions or any labor movement. It is globalization and supposed free trade. Our jobs head to china where a product is made for next to nothing but sold for the same price in our markets as if it was made here. It allows for massive corporate profits with none of the societal costs of making it. Those companies pay next to no wages, no benefits, no future for the workers and next to nothing in taxes.
Its a bad system.
Id rather buy a Canadian cell phone. I mean that little piece of crap costs $1000 bux either way.
Unfortunately people believe that our high wages make it unprofitable. It is still very profitable.
Our banks have been making Billions of dollars a year for quite a while. Its only been the last few years that they started answering phones in India for us. They were profitable before and they are still profitable now.
All this done for supposed "SHAREHOLDER VALUE"
One thing I agree with trump. I am a protectionist when it comes to my country! Put up the wall.... kick em out..... Just kidding......... I think.
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The other big reason it is cheaper to make things in china is no environmental accountability, whilst we are being made to believe that one of the building blocks of life is a pollutant, china is poisoning the planet and no-one bats an eye.
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