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06-03-2021, 09:41 PM
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Farmer showed me a picture of a pair in his yard on the north side of Pine Lake last summer.
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06-03-2021, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by marky_mark
When was there a wolverine at elk island park?
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Wes Olson, the Buffalo expert biologist from the park, told me about it maybe 10 years ago.
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06-03-2021, 10:59 PM
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Start with limited tags in private land, problem grizz.
They will fear man again.
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06-03-2021, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by sir_charlie
There is a great article in last months Outdoorsmen magazine on the growing grizzly bear population, range expansion east into the prairie country and the resulting increasing conflict between bears and people. There’s also another on the things we can do as hunters to best promote/secure our cause and interests. I recommend reading them.
From my perspective we shouldn’t be advocating to hunt them yet. The population levels are not large enough to be sustainable or moved off the threatened list. Instead we should be advocating as hunters to continue to allow them to expand, for people/farmers/society to instead learn to coexist with the bears, who are rightfully reclaiming their natural range, and when numbers have stabilized and are sustainable, push for the grizzly bear hunt to be included as a population management tool. Anything less and we only hurt our case and ourselves by entrenching the narrative that bear hunters are trophy hunters and are not concerned with conservation.
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I’m sorry, but I believe we have more than enough population to have a hunt. As stated it would be a helpful first step to get them a bit less relaxed around people. West of DV the population has increased significantly, and they are starting to cause issues in the West Country. I know of hunters that had to put a bullet in the dirt between their feet to finally get it to back off. Up in the GP area now and there is way more bears up here. Again, getting very brave.
Close to 10 years ago a buddy was watching a valley with 7 different Grizz at the same time. I have heard numerous reports of the same in the past few years also.
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06-04-2021, 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by marky_mark
Lethbridge isn’t elk island
Little closer to the mountains and a lot less people in the way
Everyone has a camera with them these days
Pretty easy to confirm or debunk myths
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My boys have a trail cam pic of a wolverine near Hardisty from last year
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06-04-2021, 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by TBark
Start with limited tags in private land, problem grizz.
They will fear man again.
TBark
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This. It's pretty simple really, problem bear eliminate it. Landowners should have that right, bears and cougars.
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06-04-2021, 06:42 AM
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My boys have a trail cam pic of a wolverine near Hardisty from last year
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Fisher or wolverine?
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06-04-2021, 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Positrac
I believe Kurt got the boot for good last I saw. He’s playing with his flute in banned camp now...
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Kurt is enjoying a nice bear skin in front of the fire place sipping a bevy!
Most land owners are probably taking this into consideration....time to protect your investment and if critters come calling well ya get a lead pill.
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06-04-2021, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 58thecat
Most land owners are probably taking this into consideration....time to protect your investment and if critters come calling well ya get a lead pill.
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This is simply not the case at all. No one wants the hassle and expense of such things. And if you think the poor farmer overlooking Saskatchewan has problems, then you can only imagine what the ranchers in the shadow of the Rockies are dealing with.
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06-04-2021, 07:33 AM
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Fisher or wolverine?
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wolverine
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06-04-2021, 07:37 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 58thecat
Kurt is enjoying a nice bear skin in front of the fire place sipping a bevy!
Most land owners are probably taking this into consideration....time to protect your investment and if critters come calling well ya get a lead pill.
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I really cant see land owners taking the risk to shoot shovel and shut up. Who knows what tracking devices have been put on, or in Grizzly Bears. Id be burying it on land that didn't have my name on it.
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06-04-2021, 08:24 AM
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Wolverine in my horse pasture on Wabamun lake couple years ago. I am trapper with RFMA trapline so guys some idea what one looks like.
PS trapline overrun with grizzly now, could hardly find 'Any' few years ago north of Edson, need to carry 357 magnum now to back them off or give them lead pill if necessary.
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06-04-2021, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by JBE
My boys have a trail cam pic of a wolverine near Hardisty from last year
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A friend spotted one there years ago also.
Another friend and a fish cop seen one on the Beaver river noth of St Paul.
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06-04-2021, 09:32 AM
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also saw
A marten in zone #220 Pine Lake last fall.
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06-04-2021, 11:40 AM
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How many problem bears are killed every year by CO’s?
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I got talking with a guy a month ago and he mentioned last year CO shot 9 grizzlies and dumped them on his wolf bait pile on his trapline. That is south of white court.
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grizzlies on farmland
A friend of mine had a sow and two cubs on camera in 336 a couple of years ago, not far from Seba Beach. There have been a few spotted around Drayton in recent years too. Wouldn't surprise if a few continued east.
Look up some threads about how far north pronghorn have been spotted. What about the muskox that was shot in Alberta a couple of years ago? Animals move around
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06-04-2021, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by tbrown
A friend of mine had a sow and two cubs on camera in 336 a couple of years ago, not far from Seba Beach. There have been a few spotted around Drayton in recent years too. Wouldn't surprise if a few continued east.
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More than a few and they are not strays anymore, they are resident bears.
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06-04-2021, 09:35 PM
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Grizzly east of writing on stone 2 weeks ago. They are within a day trip of the Cypress Hills.
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06-04-2021, 11:49 PM
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In the late 70s I was the telephone installer for Conklin and Janvier. I knew most everyone in these communities and there was talk back then of one of the locals running into a grizzly north of Janvier on the Christina river. I had no reason to doubt him. He was a trapper/hunter and knew his way in the outdoors.
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06-05-2021, 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by martyparty
Ok - I heard they (F*W) trapped a grizz near Wetaskawin and have a friend who lost 3 cows in last 2 wks near Lamont from a large brown bear.
How Far East in AB have you seen a grizz, trail cams or live
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Informal/anecdotal thread I started a while ago...I try to remember to bump it every September.
http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/showthread.php?t=219225
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