New Rifle Advice? - Page 3

#61 12-29-2009, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by sheepguide

And that is why I stated in post number 50 TJ that I wasnt refering to everyone. A good number of people shoot them guns well but a good number dont. And im glad to hear how well you shoot them guns. Every doe in Alberta is shaking!!!
SG

Never said I could shoot them well...just the same........

sheepguide · #62 12-29-2009, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BrownBear416

lol Once your nuts drop and you mature into a grown man SG I am confident you will be able to handle the larger Caliber rifles..

Ya I cant wait Brown Bear! So since you and your big gun are so much better than me and my pea shooters why is this forum not flooded with you and all your trophy pics. Remember to back your bragging.

A gun is only as good as the guy pulling the trigger! If a .338 is what you like then great, if my .270WSM is what I like then great. Doesnt mean they are what others shoot well.
SG

BrownBear416 · #63 12-29-2009, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by sheepguide

Ya I cant wait Brown Bear! So since you and your big gun are so much better than me and my pea shooters why is this forum not flooded with you and all your trophy pics. Remember to back your bragging.

A gun is only as good as the guy pulling the trigger! If a .338 is what you like then great, if my .270WSM is what I like then great. Doesnt mean they are what others shoot well.
SG

You need to go back to grade 6 and learn how to read a post..lol

I dont recall doing any bragging and please tell me where in my post i said i used a 338????????????????????????

I will wait for your apology

sheepguide · #64 12-29-2009, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BrownBear416

You need to go back to grade 6 and learn how to read a post..lol

I dont recall doing any bragging and please tell me where in my post i said i used a 338????????????????????????

I will wait for your apology

OMG sorry if I hurt your feelings there BB. Just asumed since you were promoting the .338 thats what you shot. So what caliber does Bown Bear shoot then?

#65 12-29-2009, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by sheepguide

OMG sorry if I hurt your feelings there BB. Just asumed since you were promoting the .338 thats what you shot. So what caliber does Bown Bear shoot then?

Brownbear doesn't shoot girl calibres...he is the ultimate big bore ****!

Dang, who knew that would get edited....well I compared him to a woman of ill repute!

1899b · #66 12-29-2009, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by rustynailz

If you get the last issue of Outdoor Canada, there's an awesome write up in there where they've surveyed a bunch of outfitters and asked what their choice would be.

Of course, the .300 Win Mag and .30-06 ruled the roost for the most part as you might expect.

Having said that I really liked what one outfitter said: "Bring a gun that you can hit a beer box with at 100 yards. The rest is for the magazines."

There was an article in Successsful hunter a few years ago where a rangemaster in Alaska surveyed all the calibers that came through his rifle range and .30-06 and .300 win mag were the top two. My 180 grain Nosler Partition handloads chrony 2940 fps on average with H4350. This is very close to .300 win mag performance. The locals in Alaska get by without magnums. I'm just a huge 06 fan i guess. Tried and true.

DuckBrat · #67 12-29-2009, 10:23 PM

Hey Ben, too bad we didn't realize your addiction to hunting back in Lethbridge, I was always looking for a sidekick. Those were the days, hunting everyday after school and 15 minutes out of town. Thinking about it is almost enough to give up everything and go back to college/university especially now that I found a superstar trout hole just upstream of town. Anybody looking for help in the Lethbridge Area, I think I just convinced myself to move back.

benrudmik · #68 12-29-2009, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DuckBrat

Hey Ben, too bad we didn't realize your addiction to hunting back in Lethbridge, I was always looking for a sidekick. Those were the days, hunting everyday after school and 15 minutes out of town. Thinking about it is almost enough to give up everything and go back to college/university especially now that I found a superstar trout hole just upstream of town. Anybody looking for help in the Lethbridge Area, I think I just convinced myself to move back.

Ha. Yeah Fly Fishing was my game back in college. still love to fish, but hunting has taken over on the passion meter for sure.

DuckBrat · #69 12-29-2009, 10:39 PM

First golf and now hunting who would have thought?

benrudmik · #70 12-29-2009, 10:40 PM

looks like someone fixed my spelling mistake, ha. I was wondering how long it would take for someone to make fun of me for asking for advice a new type of stream morphology (riffle).

benrudmik · #71 12-29-2009, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DuckBrat

First golf and now hunting who would have thought?

Oh golf passion hasn't left me yet Jason! i got a whole lot of rounds in this year (close to 70). Maybe I should spend a bit more time at the shooting range this summer in stead of the driving range though!

#72 12-29-2009, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by benrudmik

well if Vanessa can shoot the .338 so can I. Sold!!!!

well put again Sheephunter. See this is why I post these threads to hear from guys who have been doing this a hell of a lot longer than me. I really appreciate everyone's different opinions and. I knew when I posted this one, I was gonna get a ton of different ideas. I made up my mind earlier that I am gonna shoot some different guns this year and find one I am comfortable shooting and buy my second gun and begin my gun collection.

Yup, only you will know for sure what you are comfortable shooting. Some shooters are definitely recoil sensitive but the .338 is hardly the cannon some on here would have you believe. I actually never shot a .338 much until this year and I've really grown fond of it.

1899b · #73 12-29-2009, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by benrudmik
well if Vanessa can shoot the .338 so can I. Sold!!!!
well put again Sheephunter. See this is why I post these threads to hear from guys who have been doing this a hell of a lot longer than me. I really appreciate everyone's different opinions and. I knew when I posted this one, I was gonna get a ton of different ideas. I made up my mind earlier that I am gonna shoot some different guns this year and find one I am comfortable shooting and buy my second gun and begin my gun collection.

Keep in mind that recoil is not only about the caliber. The rifle and or stock design can be the culprit when it comes to recoil. I have a Savage 99 in .308 that is not fun to shoot off the bench at all. It just plain kicks. Its design just makes it a hard kicking rifle for me that i really feel. More so than my Guide gun in .45-70 or my Ruger #1 in .300 Win Mag. I also have a .308 in a Rem 700 that feels like an airgun. Go figure eh??

#74 12-29-2009, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 1899b

Keep in mind that recoil is not only about the caliber. The rifle and or stock design can be the culprit when it comes to recoil. I have a Savage 99 in .308 that is not fun to shoot off the bench at all. It just plain kicks. Its design just makes it a hard kicking rifle for me that i really feel. More so than my Guide gun in .45-70 or my Ruger #1 in .300 Win Mag. I also have a .308 in a Rem 700 that feels like an airgun. Go figure eh??

Exactly.....my .338 is in a sub 7-pound gun yet the felt recoil is very manageable. A good stock design and quality recoil pad definitely help.

sheepguide · #75 12-29-2009, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sheephunter

Yup, only you will know for sure what you are comfortable shooting. Some shooters are definitely recoil sensitive but the .338 is hardly the cannon some on here would have you believe. I actually never shot a .338 much until this year and I've really grown fond of it.

And if you are refering to me I hardly said it was a cannon but it is a bigger cartridge than what alot of people shoot. Im sure the average caliber shot would be down around a 30-06. And if it makes me a hero to shoot a .338 then I guess im gunna keep shooting my girly guns.LOL

Funny how you guys jump on the band wagon if someone comments against you. I just commented that alot of guys say they need more knock down power instead of just saying they want a new gun.And I never said any cartridge was bad just said that shot placement should be 1st priority before rifle power. You can shoot anything in Northamerica with any caliber with the right shot placement! Some of the biggests moose and bears have been killed with a 30-30. Lots of deer have been shot with .22shorts. If you wanna shoot everything with a .500NITRO giver I could really care less. A GUN DOESNT MAKE A HUNTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SG

#76 12-29-2009, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by sheepguide

And if you are refering to me I hardly said it was a cannon but it is a bigger cartridge than what alot of people shoot. Im sure the average caliber shot would be down around a 30-06. And if it makes me a hero to shoot a .338 then I guess im gunna keep shooting my girly guns.LOL

Funny how you guys jump on the band wagon if someone comments against you. I just commented that alot of guys say they need more knock down power instead of just saying they want a new gun.And I never said any cartridge was bad just said that shot placement should be 1st priority before rifle power. You can shoot anything in Northamerica with any caliber with the right shot placement! Some of the biggests moose and bears have been killed with a 30-30. Lots of deer have been shot with .22shorts. If you wanna shoot everything with a .500NITRO giver I could really care less. A GUN DOESNT MAKE A HUNTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SG

No, I wasn't refering to you!

spotnstockhillbilly · #77 12-29-2009, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by benrudmik

I agree with this statement. However, you and everyone here knows that when your in the heat of the moment and an animal walks out on you and the heart starts pumping, you dont always make a perfect shot, at least I dont. Choosing a heavier bullet with more knockdown will increase you chances of dropping that animal especially if its a big bull moose or Elk.

As for the 30-06 suggestions, I am not sure I want to have two guns so similar. They are the exact same brass just necked up or down. I agree with those of you who said that its fun exploring larger calibers and getting into re-loading etc. Ill probably end up using my .270 for 80% of my hunting in alberta but just wanted to get a big mean boomstick that can hurl 225 grain bullets i guess

totally agree i got a 338 win mag. i reload for it i stuff a 225 gr nosler accubond in it 72.5 grains of IMR 4350 and i shoot a group under an inch at a hundred yards and shoot everything with it moose elk muleys whitetails antelope. i found my it makes less of a mess on deer than my 270 does

Billyboy · #78 12-29-2009, 11:51 PM

I wanna chime in with the girly girls. I like my old .303 but my 308 in m88 kicks the snot outta me. Not sure I'd want to fire anything more.

#79 12-29-2009, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Billyboy

I wanna chime in with the girly girls. I like my old .303 but my 308 in m88 kicks the snot outta me. Not sure I'd want to fire anything more.

Pretty sure it's all tongue in cheek. You definitely shouldn't shoot anything you aren't comfortable with. No comment on your manhood...lol

sheepguide · #80 12-30-2009, 09:16 AM

Sheep is right. Just some good bantering betweeen a few guys. Any gun is good no matter age size or configuration as long as it fits you good and shoots straight!

RobinHood · #81 12-30-2009, 11:19 AM

Seems like everyone is starting to show the first signs of cabin fever, on here and the archery section.Maybe we should very be general as to not ruffle anyone's feathers.

Just like choosing a bow, do your due diligence and read up on as many calibres and models as you can. Determine what you will really be using the rifle for, and narrow your selection down to two or three. Then MAYBE ask on here for the the pro's and con's of your selected group...Then hopefully you can access some of these rifle through gun ranges, or board members and give them a test drive, and see what fits you.Everybody is build diffrent , height , size...etc so what might be good for someone on here might not agree with your stature or expierence.Best advice I think is due diligence and test drive as many as possible, good luck, let us know how you made out.

Mountain Guy · #82 12-30-2009, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by sheepguide

And if you are refering to me I hardly said it was a cannon but it is a bigger cartridge than what alot of people shoot. Im sure the average caliber shot would be down around a 30-06. And if it makes me a hero to shoot a .338 then I guess im gunna keep shooting my girly guns.LOL

Funny how you guys jump on the band wagon if someone comments against you. I just commented that alot of guys say they need more knock down power instead of just saying they want a new gun.And I never said any cartridge was bad just said that shot placement should be 1st priority before rifle power. You can shoot anything in Northamerica with any caliber with the right shot placement! Some of the biggests moose and bears have been killed with a 30-30. Lots of deer have been shot with .22shorts. If you wanna shoot everything with a .500NITRO giver I could really care less. A GUN DOESNT MAKE A HUNTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SG

Dude.... you need to re-read his post.
He has a 270 and wants another gun, a bigger gun for , I'm assuming bigger game.
You think he should get a 30-06 to go along with his 270 ????

He wants more power, and the 338 will give him more power. Plain and simple.

This isn't a thread about 270 vs. the cannon. You can find lots of those threads to argue till your blue in the face if you so wish.

sheepguide · #83 12-30-2009, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mountain Guy

Dude.... you need to re-read his post.
He has a 270 and wants another gun, a bigger gun for , I'm assuming bigger game.
You think he should get a 30-06 to go along with his 270 ????

He wants more power, and the 338 will give him more power. Plain and simple.

This isn't a thread about 270 vs. the cannon. You can find lots of those threads to argue till your blue in the face if you so wish.

DUDE... did you see anywhere in my post where I said he should get one?

I was commenting on what was said to me. And exactly I understand when people "WANT" more power, thats fine with me. I just laugh when they say they "NEED" more hitting power. LOL if you "NEED" more hitting power then your not shooting very good. End of story.

echo · #84 12-30-2009, 07:34 PM

try a .325wsm has a ton of knock down power.

kayaker · #85 12-30-2009, 07:52 PM

Pragmatic choice is a .300 Win Mag, followed by .300WSM

However if you want to push more bullet and not get pounded why not a .338Fed or .338-06?

Hornaholic · #86 12-30-2009, 07:55 PM

300 rum

benrudmik · #87 12-30-2009, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by echo

try a .325wsm has a ton of knock down power.

Yeah I was looking into that caliber. But when I looked at a recoil chart, the .325wsm had more recoil than a .338 win mag ( Thats pretty standard for shot mags though I guess) . It was only by like 1 foot pound or something like that. I will definitely shoot one though and see how it feels.

Here is the link to the table I looked at. They say that people develop a flinch with anything over 20 foot pounds. If thats the case Im in trouble with the .338.

I know there are a ton of different variables that will affect recoil, this is just a neat chart to look at.

http://www.chuckhawks.com/recoil_table.htm

I dont no how accurate these things are but check it out.

mulecrazy · #88 12-30-2009, 08:01 PM

That chart is pretty tough to believe. It has the 264 kicking more than the 270wsm. I know my 270wsm kicks a heck of a lot more. The weight difference is likely the major contributer. The custom barrel on my 264 adds quite a bit of inertia.

ram crazy · #89 12-30-2009, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mountain Guy

Dude.... you need to re-read his post.
He has a 270 and wants another gun, a bigger gun for , I'm assuming bigger game.
You think he should get a 30-06 to go along with his 270 ????

He wants more power, and the 338 will give him more power. Plain and simple.

This isn't a thread about 270 vs. the cannon. You can find lots of those threads to argue till your blue in the face if you so wish.

Maybe he should get a .50 cal. That should take care of the knock down power and those not so perfect shots!!

Mountain Guy · #90 12-30-2009, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by sheepguide

DUDE... did you see anywhere in my post where I said he should get one?

I was commenting on what was said to me. And exactly I understand when people "WANT" more power, thats fine with me. I just laugh when they say they "NEED" more hitting power. LOL if you "NEED" more hitting power then your not shooting very good. End of story.

I think you need a piece of tail