AB Election

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by Bigwoodsman

Some things I've learned around here are.

Ethics violations by a conservative are acceptable...just part of doing business.

Ethics violations by a non-conservative require a full public inquiry and resignation of the offender.

BW

Trudeau is the only PM to have been found guilty of ethics violations, and he has never been held accountable.

[Bigwoodsman]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

Trudeau is the only PM to have been found guilty of ethics violations, and he has never been held accountable.

DS was found in violation of the law today. Is that not an ethics violation? Or just not convenient because she's a conservative?

Ethics violations and breaking the law by a politician of any stripe should be enough to raise serious questions about their ability to be trusted with government coffers.

BW

[lmtada]

Originally Posted by Bigwoodsman

Some things I've learned around here are.

Ethics violations by a conservative are acceptable...just part of doing business.

Ethics violations by a non-conservative require a full public inquiry and resignation of the offender.

BW

Might as well dig up as much dirt as possible on UCP candidate two weeks from election. Polls favouring Danielle smith. No momentum for NDP. Media will be throwing grenades daily. Guaranteed. Anything to unseat conservatives. All part of politics. That’s why it’s ugly business for power. Why Federal liberals hand over 1.2 billion to ‘approved media’, six months prior to federal elections.

[raab]

Originally Posted by 58thecat

Kinda like here, debate away, ain’t gonna change no one’s vote but is entertaining.


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The debate here should be educational.

The more I think about this election the more I’m realizing it’s about the economic system we as Albertans want to endorse.

An NDP government will lead to bigger government and more centralization of power. Which will drive private business out of the province as they struggle to support the government bureaucracy. As more businesses fail as a result of the bloated government, the government will be there to bail them out as the become government entities. If we follow this path eventually everything will be run by the government, as private business will not survive and government employees become the biggest voting block.

On the other side is those of us that believe in free markets and individualism. Where we think you should be able to make your own choice about who to support. If we go this way the government bureaucracy should decrease and take the load off our private businesses and individuals who will prosper as a result. As government gets smaller these businesses and individuals will have more money to donate to charities and non profits which will help them grow. As these private charities grow the need for government will become less and and less to the point where the whole system will become privatized and everyone will have more choice in everything from education to where they live.

Just my perspective but I don’t see how the two systems will coexist long term. One will take over the other. If I had to bet, I would bet on it being the government system in Canada because they have a monopoly on force and can take from you and I whenever they need bailed out.

[58thecat]

Both are not telling the truth so that being said pick your liar and hope it works out…..welcome to life in all aspects.


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[millartech]

I'm not voting Notley but let's keep to facts, Notley openly dismissed the federal NDP leap manifesto, calling it naive, ill-considered, and tone deaf.

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[chasingtail]

If you have older children still living at home voting NDP cut them off and kick them out. At least warn them it will happen if the NDP wins.

[CBintheNorth]

Originally Posted by millartech

I'm not voting Notley but let's keep to facts, Notley openly dismissed the federal NDP leap manifesto, calling it naive, ill-considered, and tone deaf.

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What she says she will do and what she is bound to do, are two different things.
And we've been through this before, so I'm not posting the NDP rules again. You can search the threads.

[millartech]

Originally Posted by CBintheNorth

What she says she will do and what she is bound to do, are two different things.

And we've been through this before, so I'm not posting the NDP rules again. You can search the threads.

You don't need to post them. I know them very well. Posting them doesn't change the fact she openly denounced the manifesto.

As for what she says she will do and what she actually does, that goes for every politician in every party. Smith already has a track record of saying things and not following through. It's politician 101.

They are all liars and criminals and aren't worthy of a vote. It's like trying to pick the smartest kid in the remedial class. Sad state of affairs the politicians we have provincially and federally. Bunch of sad sack useless leeches. Notley, Smith, Trudeau, Pollivierre, they all suck. Through ole mad Max into that group of sad sacks as well.

The picture attached best describes how I feel about the political atmosphere in our province and country.

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[CBintheNorth]

Originally Posted by millartech

You don't need to post them. I know them very well. Posting them doesn't change the fact she openly denounced the manifesto.

As for what she says she will do and what she actually does, that goes for every politician in every party. Smith already has a track record of saying things and not following through. It's politician 101.

They are all liars and criminals and aren't worthy of a vote. It's like trying to pick the smartest kid in the remedial class. Sad state of affairs the politicians we have provincially and federally. Bunch of sad sack useless leeches. Notley, Smith, Trudeau, Pollivierre, they all suck. Through ole mad Max into that group of sad sacks as well.

The picture attached best describes how I feel about the political atmosphere in our province and country.

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You missed my point. She can't denounce the manifesto. It's in their bylaws. She is bound to "tow the line", and follow orders, as someone else pointed out.
Her saying she denounces it is nothing more than lip service.

[millartech]

Originally Posted by CBintheNorth

You missed my point. She can't denounce the manifesto. It's in their bylaws. She is bound to "tow the line", and follow orders, as someone else pointed out.

Her saying she denounces it is nothing more than lip service.

No, I got your point, just don't believe it to be correct. Maybe we will find out as I could see a NDP minority gov coming. She didn't follow it or tow the line last time so I doubt she would this time. She battled both Singh and Horgan in BC because she refused to tow the manifesto line.


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[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by millartech

You don't need to post them. I know them very well. Posting them doesn't change the fact she openly denounced the manifesto.

As for what she says she will do and what she actually does, that goes for every politician in every party. Smith already has a track record of saying things and not following through. It's politician 101.

They are all liars and criminals and aren't worthy of a vote. It's like trying to pick the smartest kid in the remedial class. Sad state of affairs the politicians we have provincially and federally. Bunch of sad sack useless leeches. Notley, Smith, Trudeau, Pollivierre, they all suck. Through ole mad Max into that group of sad sacks as well.

The picture attached best describes how I feel about the political atmosphere in our province and country.

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She can say whatever she likes, but as an ndp member she must follow the ndp bylaws , whether she agrees with them or not. It's mandatory, it's not optional.

[millartech]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

She can say whatever she likes, but as an ndp member she must follow the ndp bylaws , whether she agrees with them or not. It's mandatory, it's not optional.

She didn't follow it to a "t" last time, why would she this time?

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[GrandSlam]

The most pathetic reason to vote NDP is because they don’t like Smith. Gee, so you are going to vote for a socialist instead. Unbelievable.

[crazy_davey]

Originally Posted by GrandSlam

The most pathetic reason to vote NDP is because they don’t like Smith. Gee, so you are going to vote for a socialist instead. Unbelievable.

Ya, well… read below.

[Supergrit]

Originally Posted by GrandSlam

The most pathetic reason to vote NDP is because they don’t like Smith. Gee, so you are going to vote for a socialist instead. Unbelievable.

How about if you don’t like her and you what she is trying to bring to province as the leader.
Does that count

[GrandSlam]

Originally Posted by Supergrit

How about if you don’t like her and you what she is trying to bring to province as the leader.
Does that count

So you vote for the other relevant party instead? A party that goes against all your beliefs and values. Yep, that’s a good move.

[Supergrit]

Originally Posted by GrandSlam

So you vote for the other relevant party instead? A party that goes against all your beliefs and values. Yep, that’s a good move.

I vote for who I think would do the best job. Be if wild rose, NDP Green Party. Let me guess you vote conservative no matter who the leader is.
This time around I won’t vote conservative cause Daniel smith is terrible.
She terrible leader and she spreads fear.
It’s to bad the best the Conservative Party could find was her. She is like northern trump just pandering to the fears to get votes.

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by Supergrit

I vote for who I think would do the best job. Be if wild rose, NDP Green Party. Let me guess you vote conservative no matter who the leader is.
This time around I won’t vote conservative cause Daniel smith is terrible.
She terrible leader and she spreads fear.
It’s to bad the best the Conservative Party could find was her. She is like northern trump just pandering to the fears to get votes.

So if Smith is pandering to fears to get votes, what is Notley doing by trying to convince voters that the UCP will make them pay to see a doctor?

[pikergolf]

Originally Posted by Supergrit

I vote for who I think would do the best job. Be if wild rose, NDP Green Party. Let me guess you vote conservative no matter who the leader is.
This time around I won’t vote conservative cause Daniel smith is terrible.
She terrible leader and she spreads fear.
It’s to bad the best the Conservative Party could find was her. She is like northern trump just pandering to the fears to get votes.

Spread fear? I guess you missed the debate, NDP ads, and every time Rach opens her mouth?

[6.5 shooter]

Originally Posted by Supergrit

I vote for who I think would do the best job. Be if wild rose, NDP Green Party. Let me guess you vote conservative no matter who the leader is.
This time around I won’t vote conservative cause Daniel smith is terrible.
She terrible leader and she spreads fear.
It’s to bad the best the Conservative Party could find was her. She is like northern trump just pandering to the fears to get votes.

HAHAHAHAA... no better come back then Northern TRUMP?? please give it up. You lost get over it! Now you have sleepy or is it creepy Joe? A much better choice.... LMAO.

But anyone but Smith or is it Trump? So hard to follow the Illogic's of the argument.

[ram crazy]

Originally Posted by Supergrit

I vote for who I think would do the best job. Be if wild rose, NDP Green Party. Let me guess you vote conservative no matter who the leader is.
This time around I won’t vote conservative cause Daniel smith is terrible.
She terrible leader and she spreads fear.
It’s to bad the best the Conservative Party could find was her. She is like northern trump just pandering to the fears to get votes.

Spoken like a true dipper!

[cody j]

Originally Posted by Supergrit

I vote for who I think would do the best job. Be if wild rose, NDP Green Party. Let me guess you vote conservative no matter who the leader is.
This time around I won’t vote conservative cause Daniel smith is terrible.
She terrible leader and she spreads fear.
It’s to bad the best the Conservative Party could find was her. She is like northern trump just pandering to the fears to get votes.

In a world of Trudeaus and Bidens always vote for the Trump

[GrandSlam]

Originally Posted by Supergrit

I vote for who I think would do the best job. Be if wild rose, NDP Green Party. Let me guess you vote conservative no matter who the leader is.
This time around I won’t vote conservative cause Daniel smith is terrible.
She terrible leader and she spreads fear.
It’s to bad the best the Conservative Party could find was her. She is like northern trump just pandering to the fears to get votes.

Yep, always have and always will vote for a party that aligns with my values and beliefs. I don’t vote for someone who has nice hair or wears colourful socks. Nor will I change allegiance because the current leader is not fully to my liking. I’m not a diehard Smith supporter, but there is no damn way I will ever vote for the NDP.

[ram crazy]

Originally Posted by Supergrit

I vote for who I think would do the best job. Be if wild rose, NDP Green Party. Let me guess you vote conservative no matter who the leader is.
This time around I won’t vote conservative cause Daniel smith is terrible.
She terrible leader and she spreads fear.
It’s to bad the best the Conservative Party could find was her. She is like northern trump just pandering to the fears to get votes.

Explain how she is spreading fear!
You do know that all the ones crying about the CPP it would go to a referendum where the people of Alberta would vote on it right, you do realize that right.
As far as the RCMP being remove she would leave that up to municipalities, MD, and counties.
Paying to see a doctor is another fallacy, we would lose federal funding!
I don’t really see a problem with any of these issues.

[I’d rather be outdoors]

Originally Posted by Supergrit

How about if you don’t like her and you what she is trying to bring to province as the leader.
Does that count

Plenty of other less damaging to Alberta options available. Unless you like what trudeau has done with the place.

[GrandSlam]

I’’ will just leave this here…

[raab]

Further to my point on Lockdowns and the US. The tweet below came out from Governor Kristi Noem of South Dakota yesterday. South Dakota never had one lockdown or any mandates. Which is what I saw trucking down there.

For us as conservatives we believe in personal liberty and freedom. Jason Kenney compromised on those values and was run out of the party and province. As the old Paul Brandt song “Alberta Bound” says, we as Albertans have “Independence in our veins.”

I’m proud to be conservative because we believe in people. When you get government out of the way of people, you’ll be amazed at what can be accomplished. Alberta has done that better than any province in Canada, and we have prospered as a result. We need to continue doing just that, and together we will build a better Alberta, Canada, and World for future generations.






Edit: I just want you guys to think of what it was like for me as a cross border trucker during the pandemic. Imagine going from everything being shutdown to driving down to South Dakota and everything being completely normal. Then after 2 years of doing that the idiot in Ottawa wants to force a vaccine on me. I'm vaccinated by the way, but it's a matter of principle and supporting my friends in the industry.

[GrandSlam]

Vote cast. Was pretty busy as well.

[GrandSlam]

Got a chuckle from this.