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01-09-2012, 04:09 PM
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There just is no commercial market for them(not sure why). They are currently not considered a "game fish" so it is different when it come to by catch for walleye/pike.
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They change in taste if flash frozen or frozen,, which is weird as cod is frozen,, maybe it's the oil content, who knows but what a waste of good fish'n chips fish. I hate seeing this thread.
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01-09-2012, 04:47 PM
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The biologists would have likely been on the lake when the nets were pulled. If you want action send it to the newspaper, every newspaper you can think of. I have sent a link for this thread to the Edmonton Sun and my mla George Vanderburg. Disgusting waste.
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01-09-2012, 05:04 PM
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I've seen this many times with suckers and burbot, bigger piles than that even. Happens all across the prairie's that I know of. Maybe 'gatorhunter' will reply as he's a CO over in Manitoba. He must have some insight on this topic, even tho these pic's are from Alberta.
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01-09-2012, 05:10 PM
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ok lets clarify we r ok with the commercial fishery just not the waste of bye catch or like my self repulsed at the wholesale slaughter of any fish species all commercial fisheried have a lesser or greater # of bye catch tuna use to have dolphin as a bye catch salmon had steelhead. I care I told fisher men that what they were doing was wrong they laughed. I called fins and skins they said not their problem. called mla nothing he can do not our riding. so one has no recourse ling are not cuddly dont look good on a t-shirt will never have a movie. the few that care will never make a differance except the radicals who would end all sports fishing in to the bargain probably. sad state of affairs
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01-09-2012, 05:28 PM
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Not shure why people think these fish are so ugly. Since i was a kid i can remember fishing for these in dief and always thought they were the coolest fish, Never did i think id catch the mother of them all. lol.
Dug up a length of the W/R back in 2010. Cant believe the girth of her. What a TANK. Now im itching to get a crack at another beast.
Thought id share this pic, havent ever shown it to anyone except IGFA.
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You sure thats not a baby orca.......lol
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01-09-2012, 06:13 PM
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You sure thats not a baby orca.......lol
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do you mean the 10ton sea living mammals or am I misunderstood
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01-09-2012, 06:15 PM
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do you mean the 10ton sea living mammals or am I misunderstood
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I believe your misunderstood alot
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01-09-2012, 06:18 PM
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i believe your misunderstood alot
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01-09-2012, 06:20 PM
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in this pic we can clearly see the coloration is wrong and if I am correct the tape is in inches not feet u sir need glasses
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01-09-2012, 06:27 PM
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Good catch on a coloration
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01-09-2012, 06:32 PM
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sir this is your method operandi not mine u dont like it nether do I . you do not like your own medicine that is all.this thread is abought the wholesale slaughter of our resources and I hope putting if to an end. showing you an example if how you make people feel is all that was intended
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01-09-2012, 06:36 PM
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Sorry, it must be my English. I think the wasted burbot (or any fish) is a shame too
PS. It's still an unbelievably impressive fish on the photo! Congratulations!
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01-09-2012, 06:41 PM
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sir this is your method operandi not mine u dont like it nether do I . you do not like your own medicine that is all.this thread is abought the wholesale slaughter of our resources and I hope putting if to an end. showing you an example if how you make people feel is all that was intended
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Personally don't care how you feel or what you care you mean nothing to me. as far as getting my own medicine could not care about that either because again don't care what you think so why would what you say bother me. same reason I did not acknowledge your apology it means nothing. so you are dismissed.
Just to get this back on thread it is to bad that the ling are wasted iI like them a lot..
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01-09-2012, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by fishinggeek
Not shure why people think these fish are so ugly. Since i was a kid i can remember fishing for these in dief and always thought they were the coolest fish, Never did i think id catch the mother of them all. lol.
Dug up a length of the W/R back in 2010. Cant believe the girth of her. What a TANK. Now im itching to get a crack at another beast.
Thought id share this pic, havent ever shown it to anyone except IGFA.
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this is the size all those wasted fish may have achieved .could you please post the measurements of your lunker ling ,and if you dont mind your rig used in taming this behemoth
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01-09-2012, 06:56 PM
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good to know if I ever get the pleasure of your company
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01-09-2012, 07:01 PM
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For those who will actually contact F&W with their concerns.
Besko, Matt
Acting Head, Allocation and Use
Fisheries Allocation and Use
Sustainable Resource Development
matt.besko@gov.ab.ca
Bodden, Ken
Provincial Commercial Fisheries Specialist
Fisheries Allocation and Use
Sustainable Resource Development
ken.bodden@gov.ab.ca
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01-09-2012, 07:17 PM
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this is the size all those wasted fish may have achieved .could you please post the measurements of your lunker ling ,and if you dont mind your rig used in taming this behemoth
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Dimensions were 40.5inch length, by 26.5inch girth. Caught on a 6 inch herring just off bottom. Caught this fish at 9am in the morning. Drove from edmonton to dief friday night that trip, fished from 11pm to 4am, had a 3 hour nap in my veh, then landed her 3 hrs later. I WAS WIPPED. but it was all worth it. hahaha.
I got a 19.5lber last year at the end of march also. Now im really itching to get out. lol. Gonna start planning my trip i guess. Start dropping some hints to the wife so she gets the hint and lets me take off for the weekend.
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Morals/ethics
This doesn't say much for the commercial fishermen and F&W when it comes to having a conscience, morals, and ethics.
Learn from these mistakes and ensure things like this don't happen again; or
one day after man has run his course over the planet maybe then he will ask where did we go wrong?
I will be contacting my MLA!!!
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01-09-2012, 07:29 PM
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For those who will actually contact F&W with their concerns.
Besko, Matt
Acting Head, Allocation and Use
Fisheries Allocation and Use
Sustainable Resource Development
matt.besko@gov.ab.ca
Bodden, Ken
Provincial Commercial Fisheries Specialist
Fisheries Allocation and Use
Sustainable Resource Development
ken.bodden@gov.ab.ca
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thank you this could be of use. however my last encounter with these politic types made me feel they were slippery in fact worse than a ling.thank you for this post
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01-09-2012, 07:33 PM
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Dimensions were 40.5inch length, by 26.5inch girth. Caught on a 6 inch herring just off bottom. Caught this fish at 9am in the morning. Drove from edmonton to dief friday night that trip, fished from 11pm to 4am, had a 3 hour nap in my veh, then landed her 3 hrs later. I WAS WIPPED. but it was all worth it. hahaha.
I got a 19.5lber last year at the end of march also. Now im really itching to get out. lol. Gonna start planning my trip i guess. Start dropping some hints to the wife so she gets the hint and lets me take off for the weekend.
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do you use bait runners, bite alarms, is feeding allowed in sask? ?
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01-09-2012, 08:12 PM
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If you mean the WR burbot and WR rainbow.
the WR rainbow got sent to California to get weighed and tested, then got mounted there.
the WR burbot got sent to Toronto for the same, and then sent to Advanced Taxidermy in toronto as we speak still getting a fiberglass replica made. I cant wait for Burbot mount . They said the burbot mount should be ready march sometime. Cross my fingers.
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Is it not possible to do a skin mount with a world record? Or will no one do a burbot skin mount?
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01-09-2012, 08:23 PM
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A waste of fresh water lobster!!! changes have to be made.
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01-09-2012, 10:37 PM
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Thanks for putting up the pics. Disgusting! F'n Disgusting!
No point having two threads on this, and these pictures say it best. This link is to the Queen's Printer, this is the Act that must be amended to stop this from being legal.
http://www.qp.alberta.ca/574.cfm?pag...=9780779745258
To clarify, Burbot are lagally listed as a game fish, but this section of the Fisheries Act allows this to happen. All that needs to be done to stop this is to have SRD request parliament to amend section 57- 2-a.
WildCats, those pictures are invaluable in closing this loophole to abuse. Thanks for taking them, and sharing them. Please keep them posted in the photobucket account so others can see them, and forward the link to the government with their complaint/request for a change to this law.
If someone doesn't beat me to it, I'll post up some email address where people can voice their concerns, pictures included.
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Section 2 says game fish does not apply to burbot.
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What a waste, you could feed a whole village of people with all these wasted burbs, shame on the Alberta government for letting this happen.
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01-09-2012, 10:52 PM
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There is a pet food outfit up in Morinville that uses fish for cat food and dog food supplement as I understand. Can't they use Ling? It would mean some money for the commies and no waste on the ice.
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Section 2 says game fish does not apply to burbot.
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that's what I was pointing out in the legislation. Burbot ARE a game fish, but are exempt from the No wastage laws.
Section 57-2-a is the Offensive Offal statute.
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http://www.qp.alberta.ca/574.cfm?pag...=9780779745258
To clarify, Burbot are legally listed as a game fish, but this section of the Fisheries Act allows this to happen. All that needs to be done to stop this is to have SRD request parliament ( legislature )to amend section 57- 2-a.
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I sent a letter to Brian Mason with that pic last year. I got a response that he will look into it. Keep me happy letter. Got no reply back after that. Heard nothing on the news. The Government does not care! For anything to happen it would take 10s of thousands of letters to mutiple gov officials. If you look closely and zoom in those pics you can see what looks like a few walleye too.
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Is it not possible to do a skin mount with a world record? Or will no one do a burbot skin mount?
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Advanced said that a skin mount on this type of fish will not last, they have done only one other one in a fiberglass mold and said it turned out awesome with all the different patterns on the fish. If they do a good job i will be getting a 2nd mount and you can only do that with a fiberglass mold.
i caught this fish with a rod and reel. And i think baiting the area is ok in sask, but im not shure on that, there is no need to bait the area once you find the burbot ball, (where there spawning). whatever moves or is stinky they will eat.
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when i first found this thread i was at a loss of words. i dont see how anyone can do this to the fish. so what if you get burbot and dont want them. you could atleast put them back for someone who does want them. people always wonder why species keep going extinct on our planet, this is exactly why it keeps happening. so many people have no concern about how there actions will effect the environment. in my opinion the people who did this to those fish should be stripped down and thrown out on the ice just like those fish were. it is absoultly disgusting how those fish were treated. this is one of the reasons i want to become a f&w officer. i have currently made 17 phone calls to fish and wild life offices that deal with the location. i have also been incontact with albertas government multiple times.
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Netting killed them I assume, can't go back. I doubt it will make burbot extinct either, but it's a shame to just waste a good eating fish that also has catch limits for all normal people.
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