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Old 11-22-2017, 06:55 PM
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This is possible at some ranges.

Would 100 and 300 ever work like this?


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Not at the gum counter but close enough, Calgary gun show, sitting with the father in law as he had tables there, fella says he sight his 30-06 spot on at 100 yards, 5 shot cluster all bulls eyes...rifle is bang on at 300 yards too...I ask what the hold over, drop etc he says your not listening, spot on at 100 and 300.
Beauty eh!

Really met some real characters at these shows...oh well as long as they are buying you just keep on smiling.
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Old 11-22-2017, 06:55 PM
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This is possible at some ranges.

Would 100 and 300 ever work like this?
Not in my experience.

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Old 11-22-2017, 06:56 PM
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So sad but even this isn't necessarily true. Most of their lens on their consumer cameras are made by Panasonic...and who knows where they source them.
A number of years back some of their spotting scopes were made by Kowa...don't know if that still holds true.
Old Leica was a microscope and lens company, maybe new Leica is commercialized more.

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Old 11-22-2017, 07:05 PM
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Not in my experience.

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I'm -1 at 100, 0 at 200 and -5.1 at 300 so might be able to get close to this scenario?
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Old 11-22-2017, 07:38 PM
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I'm -1 at 100, 0 at 200 and -5.1 at 300 so might be able to get close to this scenario?
What bullet and what velocity? Even my 7mmRUM wouldn't shoot that flat, and not many cartridges shoot as flat as the 7mmRUM.
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Old 11-22-2017, 08:40 PM
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What bullet and what velocity? Even my 7mmRUM wouldn't shoot that flat, and not many cartridges shoot as flat as the 7mmRUM.
257 Weartherby with 110 grams accubonds
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Old 11-22-2017, 08:57 PM
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Not at the gum counter but close enough, Calgary gun show, sitting with the father in law as he had tables there, fella says he sight his 30-06 spot on at 100 yards, 5 shot cluster all bulls eyes...rifle is bang on at 300 yards too...I ask what the hold over, drop etc he says your not listening, spot on at 100 and 300.

Beauty eh!



Really met some real characters at these shows...oh well as long as they are buying you just keep on smiling.


Maybe he had a 7" scope mount haha


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Old 11-22-2017, 09:02 PM
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257 Weartherby with 110 grams accubonds
About the only way that I can come close to those numbers is with the reticle mounted 5"- 6" above the bore.
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Old 11-23-2017, 05:31 AM
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About the only way that I can come close to those numbers is with the reticle mounted 5"- 6" above the bore.
Got my numbers directly from the Nosler website.

Personally, I don't shoot anything further than 300 yards, so it's point and shoot.

I'm sighted in 1" high at 100.

If I'm wrong in the thinking here, correct me .

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Old 11-23-2017, 07:53 AM
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Got my numbers directly from the Nosler website.

Personally, I don't shoot anything further than 300 yards, so it's point and shoot.

I'm sighted in 1" high at 100.

If I'm wrong in the thinking here, correct me .
You previously posted -1 at 100, not +1. Huge difference.
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Old 11-23-2017, 08:10 AM
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You previously posted -1 at 100, not +1. Huge difference.
Oh crap! My mistake.
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Old 12-04-2017, 04:43 PM
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I used to think that the stories of guys not knowing what kind of ammo their gun uses were urban legends.

And then, last week at WSS Calgary.
A guy walks up to the counter and asks the salesperson if the box of dies are the right ones for his gun. The guy is right beside me and I can see the box is labelled 300 Savage.

Salesperson asks if the gun is chambered for 300 Savage.
The guy states that the gun is a savage.

Salesperson asks what kind of ammo the gun shoots.
The guy says 300 mag.
Salesperson asks 'which one?'
The guy says 'what do you mean?'

The discussion went on for a bit. I have to say that the salesperson was very patient.
I wouldn't have believed it if I wasn't right there.
Not sure if the guy was trolling the salesperson or if there were hidden cameras set up.
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Old 12-06-2017, 12:47 PM
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I was in the local shop when a fellow walked in, walks up to the gun counter, buts in fromt of a couple of regulars buying thier son his first rifle and says I need a gun for home defense! Without missing a beat, the owner of the shop says " Well, personally I've never been afraid of a house, but a chainsaw would prob do you just fine. They are mighty slow moving, so you might get away with just lightin it on fire."

Made my freaking day.
Best one yet. 😎👍👍👍
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Old 12-06-2017, 05:16 PM
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One doesn't actually have to visit a gun counter to witness idiotic comments, questions or suggestions. Just stay tuned on the internet, you'll get a full day's worth.
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Old 12-07-2017, 08:29 AM
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Maybe he had a 7" scope mount haha


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Yeah, 7" difference between center of scope and centerline of barrel,then it's possible to hit at 100 and 300 yards.

Practical or realistic... Nope.
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Old 06-16-2018, 08:59 AM
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Guy at counter talking to customer while getting him a box of ammo....." your 270 is an ok rifle, you just need to be sure to really get them in the chest cause it's a really small bullet"........as if you could just get "close" to the chest with a 30 cal and not need to worry???
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Old 06-16-2018, 11:29 AM
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There used to be a fellow who worked at Phoenix Range, was a bit of a BS machine. Anyways, I had to butt in when he was trying to sell a 300 RUM to a dad and his12 year old boy, maybe 80 pounds soaking wet, as a first rifle. The kid had probably gotten his youth PAL and thre salesman's reasoning was, you could start with the .308 velocity loads, move up to the 30-06 velocity loads, and eventually graduate to full power 300 RUM game slaughtering magic loads.

I realise it's rude to interfere with someone carrying out their business, but I was pretty annoyed and kind of called him out right in the middle of his sales pitch.

No idea what the kid ended up with as I obviously left the store after rudely interfering in what was probably a lucrative sale. It would have too be for this guy to try to push that sale as he had been around long enough to know better. Really just plain greed and dishonesty.

I do realise that Remington marketed their 300 Ultra Mag this way but I'm certain that a 300 RUM loaded to .308 win velocity would still generate more recoil than a .308 and cost far more to shoot.

Not to mention, .308 win wouldn't be on my list of appropriate chamberings for a young shooter to begin with.
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Old 06-16-2018, 01:15 PM
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Last year when WSS was clearing out I was flip-flopping between buying a new Fierce CT Edge vs. buying a Sako Greywolf?
So the "gun expert" at the counter tells me he's never heard tell of Fierce Firearms,so I go on to explain who they are and that they are essentially a "semi-custom"/production rifle based on a Sako action with extreme tight tolerances,match grade barrels,sub .5 MOA guarantee out of the box yada yada yada.....
So after a few minutes fondling this Sako and debating wether I should pony up x2 the price for the Fierce that I REALLY want,he tells me the Sako is a much better value and I'm just wasting my money buying a Fierce (which is imho out of the box comparable with most any full custom build and substantially less $$ for what you are getting)

Ok....so let me get this straight......5 minutes ago you'd never even heard tell of Fierce Firearms,and now all of a sudden you are an expert and can definitively say that Sako is a much better value??
Sorry bud....you obviously don't have a clue what you nor I am talking about....thx anyway for your expert opinion though.

FWIW....I ended up buying the Fierce.🙂
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Old 06-16-2018, 08:24 PM
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I can hit bull at 100 and 300y with no holdover but it’s hard to find a place where you can shoot straight down
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Old 03-08-2021, 11:50 PM
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Thought I would bump this, there has to be some fresh stories after 3 years

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Nobody can afford to go to the gunshop any more.
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Old 03-09-2021, 08:11 AM
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Nobody can afford to go to the gunshop any more.
And yet some people are buying up to $20-30,000 orders of ammunition and reloading components these days.

The thing that seems most common these days though, is people claiming that their cheap Turkish made shotguns are just as reliable and durable as the Browning, Benelli, and Beretta guns. I was actually in Canadian Tire a few weeks ago, picking up some handwarmers, and I couldn't help but overhear a clerk telling someone that the Turkish shotgun that he was looking at was exactly the same gun as a Benelli, but at half the price.
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Not at a gun counter but I was told by someone at the range a while back that the 308 is no good for 1,000 meter shooting, you need the 338 Lapua to be accurate.
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Old 03-09-2021, 10:09 AM
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Hypothetical saying... You'all got any of that CERB money to spend??
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Old 03-09-2021, 11:23 AM
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I don't need to hang out at the gun counter to hear some real off the wall crap, all I have to do is read some of the posts on AO.
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Old 03-09-2021, 11:48 AM
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I don't need to hang out at the gun counter to hear some real off the wall crap, all I have to do is read some of the posts on AO.
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Bullets leave the muzzle going UP cross your line of sight at X then reach there maximum height at Y then drop back till they cross you line of sight at X2, then proceed to fall to the ground at some point which is point Z.

So with the right sight in and ballistics it is VERY possible to sight in at at two useable real life hunting ranges.

P.S. bullets never shoot FLAT they are falling the MOMENT they leave the muzzle.
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Old 03-10-2021, 08:52 AM
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Not at gun counter, semi-truck driver from work joined a conversation 3 of us were having about rifles. He proceeded to tell us he loves his 338 Lapua, can shoot up to 2 km and the best thing is that the bullet actually picks up speed after 750yds. 😳🤯
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Old 03-10-2021, 09:12 AM
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I don't need to hang out at the gun counter to hear some real off the wall crap, all I have to do is read some of the posts on AO.
Well said;
Dean you are post 775, can you imagine how many days a guy would have to stand at the gun counter to get this amount of entertainment...Hahaha
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Old 03-10-2021, 10:50 AM
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I did over hear a lady ask what her first gun should be for property defence against two and four legged creatures. Had a laugh hearing the salesmen repeatedly ask what she was going to hunt with it. Apperently “I just want somthing to scare them” wasn’t a good enough answer.

I did have a salesman tell me to “get over it” and “you shouldn’t need to reload if you’re any good” when I asked if they had any left handed rifles.
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Old 03-10-2021, 11:00 PM
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6.5 Shooter who ever said that to you was correct. Yes the bullet starts falling the moment it leaves the rifle if it is perfectly level and sighted at the muzzle. How you would do that I don't know. How ever even sighted in at 100yds the bullet crosses the line of sight twice. The reason being your muzzle is below your scope or sights. We would likely have a tough time seeing this in real life because the climb would be so hard to notice.
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