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04-02-2020, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by RandyBoBandy
Looks like BigJohn got 10 min misconduct and permanent ban
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bigjohn87 sounds a lot like mooseknuckle that was banned about 6 weeks ago, one and the same, anyway he will be back on here under a new name tomorrow, that's his MO
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04-02-2020, 05:39 PM
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The released that they had a verbal altercation and then a fight
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04-02-2020, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by marky_mark
The released that they had a verbal altercation and then a fight
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And then a 3rd vehicle showed up.
Strange things are afoot.
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Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck
I wasn't thinking far enough ahead for an outcome, I was ranting. By definition, a rant doesn't imply much forethought.....
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04-02-2020, 05:48 PM
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I swear that not all of my anti-police sentiment is expressed throughout my messaging system!
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04-02-2020, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Ken07AOVette
Amazing how fast they have someone in custody, the turn of events that facilitated that would be interesting to know. Turned himself in maybe?
Horrible situation and what a terrible thing for family and friends.
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The article I read stated that he did in fact turn himself in, yes
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04-02-2020, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by waldedw
bigjohn87 sounds a lot like mooseknuckle that was banned about 6 weeks ago, one and the same, anyway he will be back on here under a new name tomorrow, that's his MO
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News to me? Iikely a different one.
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04-02-2020, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by mooseknuckle
News to me? Iikely a different one.
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Swing and a miss!!
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Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck
I wasn't thinking far enough ahead for an outcome, I was ranting. By definition, a rant doesn't imply much forethought.....
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04-02-2020, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Ken07AOVette
Swing and a miss!!
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I think the handle in question was “deadmoose”
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04-02-2020, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by mooseknuckle
News to me? Iikely a different one.
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My most humble apologies sir, no offence meant, it was moose something maybe moosepasture
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04-02-2020, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by waldedw
My most humble apologies sir, no offence meant, it was moose something maybe moosepasture
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Lol, none at all taken. There was one punted a while back with a slightly differnt spelling i believe.
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04-02-2020, 06:54 PM
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I think the handle in question was “deadmoose”
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Too many members that have " MOOSE" in there handles...HArd to keep track of...LOL
Deadmoose trolled the Flames/Oilers threads and was a ********!
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04-02-2020, 07:11 PM
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Sounds like this murder was over some kind of argument and not just random at least
Outside of that it sounds like we are not going to get much else for a bit
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04-02-2020, 08:16 PM
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Too bad for all involved, glad no RCMP got hurt, young guy born in 1988, married with kids, I know father & his grandfather is a real nice guy.
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04-02-2020, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Smoky buck
Sounds like this murder was over some kind of argument and not just random at least
Outside of that it sounds like we are not going to get much else for a bit
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I'm sure there's a story here, question being if we get to hear it ? If he pleads guilty, no trial, or plea bargains, more likely. we're at the mercy of what the authorities and the media decide to tell us.
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04-02-2020, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Blastoff
Too bad for all involved, glad no RCMP got hurt, young guy born in 1988, married with kids, I know father & his grandfather is a real nice guy.
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The accused?
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04-02-2020, 08:41 PM
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https://edmontonjournal.com/news/cri...-b175a8718767/
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Mounties on Thursday afternoon said investigators believe two vehicles stopped on the road around 9:30 p.m. last Friday, and the occupants got into a verbal, then physical, fight. The driver of a third vehicle then stopped before a man from that vehicle fired a weapon several times, killing Sansom and Cardinal.
The victims’ bodies were discovered on the road outside a parked black 2014 Ram 1500 truck near Township Road 622 and Range Road 84 the next morning around 4 a.m.
RCMP say the investigation led them to the accused man, who then turned himself in to the Bonnyville RCMP detachment where he was arrested and remanded into custody on Wednesday, following a judicial hearing.
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Series of events as in articles
So person A pull up with vehicle to the victims vehicle
Person A got out of the vehicle
Person A and the victims has verbal confrontation( accusation or same heated words)
leads to physical altercations (fight )
persons B and C was in the vehicle 3 driving up and saw both victims tussle with person A
Person B shot both victims.
Then abc all drove away
Maybe it was the local crime watch on duty. They obviously have a gun ready upon arrival ?
Last edited by fishtank; 04-02-2020 at 08:54 PM.
Reason: Correction for events
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04-02-2020, 08:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fishtank
https://edmontonjournal.com/news/cri...-b175a8718767/
Series of events as in articles
So person A and B pull up with vehicle to the victims vehicle
Person A got out of the vehicle
Person A and the victims has verbal confrontation( accusation or same heated words)
leads to physical altercations (fight )
person B was in the vehicle with when he saw both victims tussle with person A
Person B shot both victims.
Then a person C pull up in another vehicle .
Maybe it was the local crime watch on duty. They obviously have a gun ready upon arrival.
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Shots came from 1 of the people in the third vehicle
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04-02-2020, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by marky_mark
Shots came from 1 of the people in the third vehicle
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Sorry my mistake after reading Sounds like The persons in the 3 rd vehicle came and saw the 2 victims fighting with the person from the second vehicle, so person from vehicle 3 took the shot ? Man slaughter but Why they left and didn’t call rcmp right away ...
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04-02-2020, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by fishtank
Sorry my mistake after ready. Sounds like. The persons in the 3 rd vehicle came and same the 2 victims fighting with the person from the second vehicle, so person from vehicle 3 took the shot ? Man slaughter but Why they left and didn’t call rcmp right away ...
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Because they killed 2 people
Kind of a “uh oh, now what” moment I’m sure
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04-02-2020, 08:59 PM
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Going to be very hard to argue self defense by not calling the cops right away. If thats the case.
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04-02-2020, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Fur
Going to be very hard to argue self defense by not calling the cops right away. If thats the case.
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Rural crime out there is bad
Rcmp are stretched pretty thin
You would hate to have to take them off of patrolling the highway for speeders
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04-02-2020, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by marky_mark
Rural crime out there is bad
Rcmp are stretched pretty thin
You would hate to have to take them off of patrolling the highway for speeders
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Hmmm.... if only there were a simple answer to such a intriquite question huh? lol
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Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck
I wasn't thinking far enough ahead for an outcome, I was ranting. By definition, a rant doesn't imply much forethought.....
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04-02-2020, 11:07 PM
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The accused?
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Yes the accused.
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Kind of curious what happens with all this. Circled area is apparently the intersection where the victims were found.
Doubt whatever happened was serious enough two fellows had to lose their lives but something not exactly smelling right.
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04-03-2020, 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by marky_mark
Rural crime out there is bad
Rcmp are stretched pretty thin
You would hate to have to take them off of patrolling the highway for speeders
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Which doesn't change the fact,that anyone involved in the shooting of other humans, should have immediately called the police, especially, if they felt that the shootings were justified, as in self defense. The police may be pretty much useless at preventing crime, but you still need to call them in a situation like this.
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04-03-2020, 06:28 AM
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Picture
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The person in the picture is Jacob Sansom - Nobleford Emergency Services
One of the victums
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04-03-2020, 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by bat119
The person in the picture is Jacob Sansom - Nobleford Emergency Services
One of the victums
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Ahhhh. Ya that guy don’t look like a murderer.
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04-03-2020, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Talking moose
Ahhhh. Ya that guy don’t look like a murderer.
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I have to ask what does a murderer look like lol
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If you look at the map
The accused lives directly to the south of where the incident happened
In the press release, the accused is barred from contacting any males with the same last name.
Directly beside the accused property you can see land owned by roger Bilodeau
I’m guessing that his old man or relative confronted the 2 deceased and a fight broke out
And junior came to the rescue
Just my guess
Not sure if I’ll get in trouble for trying to piece together a probable theory with the info that’s been release but it would be logical
Even if I’m wrong, which IS very likely
The root causes of this shouldn’t be swept under the rug
There is a lot of people that are very strongly opposed to the ndp giving harvesting rights to Métis
And the multiple tiered judicial system had let down people from both sides of the pendulum.
In no way is harvesting moose, poaching or legal, worth 2 lives. Well 3 actually
And it’s a travesty that people feel they have to take matters into their own hands because the judicial system won’t do anything and the police can’t do anything
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