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06-24-2021, 10:42 AM
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New Gun Law Background Checks
https://www.newswire.ca/news-release...839345934.html
I hope the link works, July 7,2021 Your new PAL license will require a lifetime background check instead of the last 5 years, could be a problem for some I suppose
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06-24-2021, 11:29 AM
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It definitely could be an issue for some; you're right.
Conversely, criminals don't care about that sort of thing. It's nauseating to think that they are promoting this as an improvement to public safety.
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06-24-2021, 12:11 PM
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as per link from above post......
As part of the Government's comprehensive strategy to build safer communities and combat gun and gang violence, the Minister of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness, the Honourable Bill Blair, announced that effective July 7, 2021 the Government of Canada is expanding mandatory firearms licence background checks to cover the lifetime of an applicant and reinstating the requirement to seek Authorization to Transport (ATT) for restricted and prohibited firearms to most locations.
They are calling this common sense gun laws for canadians.
also note ....
and combat gun and gang violence ... like its an after thought!!!
go figure
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06-24-2021, 12:17 PM
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I’m betting on them using this to revoke licenses for teenage mistakes.
Just a reason/ability to knock down our numbers “legally”
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06-24-2021, 12:19 PM
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Could some existing PAL holders lose their license ?
The Liberals should use all the money spent on harassing firearm owners to crush gangs and drugs
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06-24-2021, 02:16 PM
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I'm glad they never demanded the ATT for trips to and from range and left it alone as a condition on your RPAL.
But the Libtards are all fools that let criminals into the country and now they are having a field day exercising their violent culture shooting up Toronto.
So of course a big eastern city's problem is in the Libtards distorted view a National problem ?? Just slays me.
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06-24-2021, 02:47 PM
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What I fail to understand as there are many a people that had a sorted history, ( there’s likely a few on this forum) realized that path was not the one they wanted to take, and turned their lives around are now going to pay for it for life. I’m sure they are going to be petty. Likely based on being charged and not convicted. It just means there are going to be more people in court fighting these allegations.
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06-24-2021, 02:49 PM
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So why can't we use the Not Withstanding Clause
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06-24-2021, 04:03 PM
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not to get off topic // did any one ever get proper answer from Kenny and co. as to why they stopped shopping for a Alberta C F O ??
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06-24-2021, 04:38 PM
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The ever growing rapidly downward spiral of our Country….I’m at a loss for words. There is just so many red flags being showed to us and yet,I feel there is nothing at all that we can truly do to change the course…we are in the middle of a basket ball game and we just got hooped one more time!
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06-24-2021, 04:47 PM
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Hmmmm interesting. Crap, I made a booboo 25 years ago. Actually a bit concerned now. Guess will see when I have to renew I belive November 2023. Huh. That would suck.
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06-24-2021, 04:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 45/70/500
not to get off topic // did any one ever get proper answer from Kenny and co. as to why they stopped shopping for a Alberta C F O ??
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My understanding is that they are at the interview stage currently.
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06-24-2021, 04:52 PM
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Is it just first time applications or does a renewal count as well? Also has there ever been an actual list of what bars you from getting a pal?
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06-24-2021, 04:55 PM
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Here is hoping that parking ticket in university doesn’t come back to haunt me.
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06-24-2021, 05:13 PM
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Could some existing PAL holders lose their license ?
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Most definitely, isn't that the point?
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06-24-2021, 05:19 PM
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If Quebec Hell's Angel Lead Maurice "Mom" Boucher was able to apply for and receive an RPAL, I doubt anyone on this site needs to worry!
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06-24-2021, 07:08 PM
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So I wonder, if a person is refused a renewal for a pal, say non-restricted, will they come and take your rifle away?
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06-24-2021, 07:46 PM
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Quote:
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Here is hoping that parking ticket in university doesn’t come back to haunt me.
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Ha that's priceless !
What i want to know is when OUR [Alberta] CFO gets behind the switch and our Government can grow a set and tell Ottawa to pound sand.
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06-24-2021, 08:57 PM
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Quote:
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So I wonder, if a person is refused a renewal for a pal, say non-restricted, will they come and take your rifle away?
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There is no long gun registry any more, how are they going to know?
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06-24-2021, 11:28 PM
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There is no long gun registry any more, how are they going to know?
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My assumption would be that a denied renewal would come with an order to turn in any firearms you currently have and probably a visit to ensure such a thing happened. Or else what’s the point of the check anyway?
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06-25-2021, 01:27 AM
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Quote:
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Is it just first time applications or does a renewal count as well? Also has there ever been an actual list of what bars you from getting a pal?
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It is in the Firearms Act. But instead of the 5 year limit quote in section 5(2), they can now look at the applicants entire life.
Authorized Possession
Eligibility to Hold Licences
General Rules
Marginal note:Public safety
5 (1) A person is not eligible to hold a licence if it is desirable, in the interests of the safety of that or any other person, that the person not possess a firearm, a cross-bow, a prohibited weapon, a restricted weapon, a prohibited device, ammunition or prohibited ammunition.
Marginal note:Criteria
(2) In determining whether a person is eligible to hold a licence under subsection (1), a chief firearms officer or, on a reference under section 74, a provincial court judge shall have regard to whether the person, within the previous five years,
(a) has been convicted or discharged under section 730 of the Criminal Code of
(i) an offence in the commission of which violence against another person was used, threatened or attempted,
(ii) an offence under this Act or Part III of the Criminal Code,
(iii) an offence under section 264 of the Criminal Code (criminal harassment),
(iv) an offence relating to the contravention of subsection 5(1) or (2), 6(1) or (2) or 7(1) of the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act, or
(v) an offence relating to the contravention of subsection 9(1) or (2), 10(1) or (2), 11(1) or (2), 12(1), (4), (5), (6) or (7), 13(1) or 14(1) of the Cannabis Act;
(b) has been treated for a mental illness, whether in a hospital, mental institute, psychiatric clinic or otherwise and whether or not the person was confined to such a hospital, institute or clinic, that was associated with violence or threatened or attempted violence on the part of the person against any person; or
(c) has a history of behaviour that includes violence or threatened or attempted violence on the part of the person against any person.
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06-25-2021, 05:25 AM
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Hmmm I might be screwed because back in 78 I refused to give my SIN for my first FAC.
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06-25-2021, 06:06 AM
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Sounds like a similar check that they do when you apply for a passport, they look back all the way at any criminal charges I think. If you have had an FAC or PAL for years I'm sure you will be OK, but then again with the Liberals you never know.
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06-25-2021, 06:49 AM
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Quote:
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So I wonder, if a person is refused a renewal for a pal, say non-restricted, will they come and take your rifle away?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Off in the Bushes
There is no long gun registry any more, how are they going to know?
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That’s right they won’t come take them because they don’t know you have them but you also won’t be able to buy ammo or take a shotgun camping or or to the range or go hunting, unless you are willing to be caught with a firearm and no PAL
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06-25-2021, 07:30 AM
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This is going to suck.... I could be ruined due to a simple fist fight 15 years ago.
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06-25-2021, 11:56 AM
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Canada has one of the highest rates of anti depressant use in the world. Can they pull your PAL if you’ve tried head pills?
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06-25-2021, 12:46 PM
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This is going to suck.... I could be ruined due to a simple fist fight 15 years ago.
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“Sell” them before the requirement to report private sales comes in effect.
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06-25-2021, 01:49 PM
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I wonder if there will be some exceptions to the rule like there was for the new firearms restrictions or when there’s a fire ban and atv’s are restricted.
Last edited by Dark Wing; 06-25-2021 at 01:56 PM.
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06-25-2021, 06:50 PM
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Are they going to go back and talk anyone who had an EX? It used to be 2 years, but will we now have to say we had an ex-wife 15 years ago?
Cheers
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06-25-2021, 06:58 PM
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We gun law
The ideas that Trudope and his band of idiots come up with make me gag! Another complete waste of money that will make no difference at all to criminals. Maybe much harsher penalties would be a better plan. Bring back capitol punishment.
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