Justin Trudeau on Alberta...

[rugatika]

Originally Posted by BeeGuy

Perhaps upper and lower Canada should have just left the west to the Spaniards, Russians, Americans and first peoples for all the thanks they are getting.

What a joke.

Don't forget it is treason.

The Canadian Criminal Code, at §46, defines "treason" as:


"Every one commits treason who, in Canada, (a) uses force or violence for the purpose of overthrowing the government of Canada or a province; (b) without lawful authority, communicates or makes available to an agent of a state other than Canada, military or scientific information or any sketch, plan, model, article, note or document of a military or scientific character that he knows or ought to know may be used by that state for a purpose prejudicial to the safety or defence of Canada; (c) conspires with any person to commit high treason or to do anything mentioned in paragraph (a); (d) forms an intention to do anything that is high treason or that is mentioned in paragraph (a) and manifests that intention by an overt act; or (e) conspires with any person to do anything mentioned in paragraph (b) or forms an intention to do anything mentioned in paragraph (b) and manifests that intention by an overt act."


Since so many seem to be so willing to "stretch" the meaning of treason. Just thought everyone would like to know what it REALLY means.

And anything you think was ever owed to UPPER AND LOWER Canada by the west, we have more than paid back in spades. If anything is owed to anyone...it's to us.

[petey100]

Justin can deliver the Trudeau salute just as well as his dad , he is just more direct at us. The only greatness he will serve will be as an organ donor.

[honda610]

I love the fact i work away from my family to earn a good wage with pension , pay a obsean amount of taxes to have a piece of $#@% tell me only people from the east should run the country. Wait i have an idea if everyone in the oil industry quit there jobs, stopped paying huge income tax and lived off the social tit of the federal government we would be able to run Canada for what maybe a couple months?

[greylynx]

Originally Posted by hillbillyreefer

I smell the tracks of Stephen Carter on this one. He is the db that ran the red queens campaigns and is now directing Martha Hall Findlay's run for LPC leader.
Dredge up the dirt, smear the opponent, leave no evidence you did it. Brilliant really.

Another excellent point.

I never thought of that.

Something to watch and evolve.

Thanks hillybillyreefer.

[BeeGuy]

Originally Posted by rugatika

If anything is owed to anyone...it's to us.

I absolutely believe that you believe that.

Funny, AB has been blessed with as much opportunity as one could dream of, and it is still not enough.

No one owes you anything.

[greylynx]

Originally Posted by nof60

He has a point about the prime ministers. After all the only pm Alberta ever gave us was Joe Who and wasnt he a dandy. I get so sick of this Alberta should seperate nonsense. Grow up you babies. You are Canadians. End of story. You moan and whine about Quebecers yet you sound exactly the same. Canada does not end at Thunder Bay as some down east may believe, nor does it end at Lloydminster.

Some of us babies remember our pedophile... the NEP...by Da Da Trudeau.

[BeeGuy]

Originally Posted by rugatika

Since so many seem to be so willing to "stretch" the meaning of treason. Just thought everyone would like to know what it REALLY means.

The only stretch, is pretending that AB could separate without violence.

Your group is so small, special interest, and extremist, that you will never pass a referendum.

You can't even elect politicians significantly more central than your own ideologies.


So, any AB separatists care to elaborate on a MO for separation?

Pretty please?

[hal53]

Originally Posted by BeeGuy

I absolutely believe that you believe that.

Funny, AB has been blessed with as much opportunity as one could dream of, and it is still not enough.

No one owes you anything.

[honda610]

I agree no one is owed anything so stop all transfer payments and let the east earn there meal ticket!

[hal53]

Originally Posted by greylynx

Some of us babies remember our pedophile... the NEP...by Da Da Trudeau.

^^^ true...so we do "owe" those b****rds something.....

[Twisted Canuck]

It's official. After years of time spent on various forums, I'm finally going to use the 'ignore' function. I feel better already. One can only stand so much of the Richard Noggin perspective.

[rugatika]

Originally Posted by BeeGuy

The only stretch, is pretending that AB could separate without violence.

Your group is so small, special interest, and extremist, that you will never pass a referendum.

You can't even elect politicians significantly more central than your own ideologies.


So, any AB separatists care to elaborate on a MO for separation?

Pretty please?

I've got an idea.

Trudeau For PM!!

I think an NEP II would about do it.

[hillbillyreefer]

Originally Posted by honda610

I agree no one is owed anything so stop all transfer payments and let the east earn there meal ticket!

X2

[mgvande]

Originally Posted by honda610

I agree no one is owed anything so stop all transfer payments and let the east earn there meal ticket!

Transfers should stop all together. It rewards provincial governments for bad decisions because they know they will get bailed out. A halt to Transfer payments would make the provinces govern in a manner that attracts business and keeps it people working.

[greylynx]

Originally Posted by BeeGuy

The only stretch, is pretending that AB could separate without violence.

Your group is so small, special interest, and extremist, that you will never pass a referendum.

You can't even elect politicians significantly more central than your own ideologies.


So, any AB separatists care to elaborate on a MO for separation?

Pretty please?

I will elaborate. You have not lived in Alberta very long, have you?

With all due respect your posts are nothing more than those of an eastern insider that one reads in liberal blogs.

If you think the people in Alberta are not concerned about separation, and living a better life then why do you even respond to these posts with such vitriolic hate.

Beeguy: Are you scared of what you see?

[CNP]

Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck

It's official. After years of time spent on various forums, I'm finally going to use the 'ignore' function. I feel better already. One can only stand so much of the Richard Noggin perspective.

I had no idea.............had to google the name lol

[Roughneck12]

Originally Posted by ehntr

I had no idea.............had to google the name lol

We have an ignore button? And who is Richar.... Never mind.....

[CanuckShooter]

It's no big surprise....doesn't anyone notice the disparity in provincial representation in the upper houses? On a per capita basis the east holds the majority of the seats.....virtually guaranteeing they rule the roost.

Just look at the population of each province...and compare that to how many MPs and Senators each has.

[CanuckShooter]

Good doggy! ;-)

[ESOXangler]

I am canadian, I will always be a canadian, im proud of diversity, im pround we span 3 oceans, and im proud that 95% of our population feels exactly the same, whether from t.dot to newfieland to port hardy to tuk. Its just unfortunate that its the loudest a**face at the bar that gets heard. My centralist view in life makes me a liberal(by definition) but I could never vote for one by todays standards. I admit that because im honest, if you hate my country and want to leave go ahead, head to texas or lousianna, or whether turns your crack. But have some pride on where you're from, because really all our gripes are just first world problems. Well they do matter they aren't life and death(yet).


and the whole quebec thing is a bunch of bs too, sure its nice having such a strong culture add to what we have but we need to stop catering to their rediculous wants and needs. but we won't until the pop tide changes. giver a few more years, it'll happen!

[Sneeze]

Originally Posted by greylynx

Also Justin's brother (not the one I think about every time I drink Kokanee) is his campaign manager.

You still drink Kokanee after they added that ingredient?

[avb3]

Is one Canada my preference? You bet.

Is one Canada my preference if Alberta is always viewed as the cash cow and doormat?

Not in your life.

Things have been pretty good in Alberta the last number of years, both economically, and our relationship with the rest of Canada. The federal Conservatives have done a reasonable job of not pitting one region against the other, unlike the DNA that the Liberals live by.

Most Albertans would prefer one Canada. But other than the sentimental reason, what benefit would staying in Canada bring to Albertans? Economically? Nothing. Scratch the surface of any Albertan that's been here for a while, especially ones who lived through the NEP, and it would not take a whole bunch to p!$$ us off enough to say FU, good bye.

Get an ashhat like Trudeau II into power, and Albertans would be quite willing to abide by any restrictions of the Clarity Act, and have a referendum accordingly. Don't count on it failing.

[Sneeze]

Originally Posted by 6.5 shooter

IS this guy for real ??? WOW! more pink, fuzzy soup, coming from the mind of the unknowing.

Haha, oh boy upper and lower Canada, leaving us to the natives, Russians!

Too bad he is 100% serious.

I wouldn't have seen the post unless somebody replied to it. The ignore function will help you with him. I sure miss Eastcoast and Roadkill, at least they didn't make blood vessels in my eyes rupture.

[Cyclops]

Well, I was born in Alberta but grew up in New Brunswick and have lived the second half of my life back here. All of my family lives in NB so I'm not crazy about the idea of Alberta separating. I have a better idea. Quebec can leave and we can stay. They're the problem really. They are what is sucking all of Alberta's money with their idiotic socialist province and they hate us to boot. But if we can't boot them out then maybe we should leave because the deal as it stands stinks and it's not going to get better.

P.S. Richard Noggin...now that is hilarious! ...and so fitting.

[silverdoctor]

Trudeau is just an arrogant little putz that couldn't find his own arse with a map.

[KegRiver]

Originally Posted by avb3

Is one Canada my preference? You bet.

Is one Canada my preference if Alberta is always viewed as the cash cow and doormat?

Not in your life.

Things have been pretty good in Alberta the last number of years, both economically, and our relationship with the rest of Canada. The federal Conservatives have done a reasonable job of not pitting one region against the other, unlike the DNA that the Liberals live by.

Most Albertans would prefer one Canada. But other than the sentimental reason, what benefit would staying in Canada bring to Albertans? Economically? Nothing. Scratch the surface of any Albertan that's been here for a while, especially ones who lived through the NEP, and it would not take a whole bunch to p!$$ us off enough to say FU, good bye.

Get an ashhat like Trudeau II into power, and Albertans would be quite willing to abide by any restrictions of the Clarity Act, and have a referendum accordingly. Don't count on it failing.

Well said.

[brownbomber]

I still think Canada is very fixable. Then again as a Canadian and a albertan giving up on things isn't in my nature.

But that little ***** JT isn't thinking long term in the least. Sure get elected by blaming Alberta. Destroy the patch as is the family legacy, but then who to blame when the transfer payments stop and cousin Leo comes back east kicking stones??? The federal conservatives have a long term game plan, they have stuck to it and hope they will continue to do so. Worst case scenario JT is a one term PM and routed on a reelection attempt.

It's a hard lesson to learn about biting the hand that feeds you. I thought Canada has been doing quite well under a conservative helm. I know the response is it's terrible everywhere but the west, but that's why we adapt and overcome. Diversify and lead the world, stay the same hope for different results and crumble. Come on 'back home' start punching your weight!!!!

'back home' - where new albertans that don't where green come from lol

[KegRiver]

Originally Posted by CfnR

This is not the typical eastern attitude towards Alberta. This is the attitude of a delusional, self centered liberal.

Correct.

A close look at most Albertans would find most came from Eastern Canada or their ancestors did.

My Dad came from Nova Scotia, and one of his relatives is recorded as one of the fathers of confederation. But I guess the Western attitude isn't really western. Dad hated Sir Charles long before he (dad) came west.


I agree with avb3, my first choice would be a united Canada. But I really haven't felt like Canada wanted westerners as part of the country since the senior Trudog took office.

Still, Beeguy has a point. Without oil, Alberta wouldn't be in such great shape.
Many of you might not remember it, but Alberta was one of the poorer provinces before oil was discovered here.
We don't have much in the way of minerals, our forests aren't high value timber, and we are far from the big markets to the east and the south of us.
About all we have besides oil is farming and that's not going to pay the bills when the oil runs out.

We need Canada as much as Canada needs us. The only difference is, we know it and they don't.
It's sad but true, the USA appreciates us a whole lot more then Canada does.

Central Canada may think they can push us around, and we are a tolerant bunch, but we do have limits and we do have friends.

[BeeGuy]

good post

[Erik]

This guy is a buffoon, just leaning on daddy's name. Everything he says tries to avert the obvious. The Liberals are just pinning their hopes on the Trudeau name and his fairy-tale story to get them back into power. The hypocrisy of this party amazes me sometimes.