Marlin 1895G .45 70 Guide gun

noelb · #1 06-06-2009, 08:11 PM

Anyone have one of these. I'm really looking at one of these as a backpack/hiking gun. I would also use it for whatever (close range) ungulate I draw. All the web reviews seem positive. Also I just love Marlin lever guns. Talk me out of this before my wife uses the .30 30 to end the discussion.

huntinstuff · #2 06-06-2009, 08:23 PM

If you reload, it is a great cartridge for close up.

Factory ammo is a bit weak by comparison.

Marlin makes a good lever gun. I have had about 12 or so.

The Moose Whisperer · #3 06-06-2009, 09:49 PM

I have the 1895GS Guide Gun and love it. Use mine for the same as what you intend. No regrets, probably my favourite gun. Everything you have read is true. Quick go buy it while she is distracted loading up the 30-30

x2 on the reloading comment. This gun is the reason I started reloading and I'm sure glad I did.

pogo · #4 06-07-2009, 01:14 AM

Until you can handload, or if you absolutely refuse to handload, Hornady has a slightly peppier load than other factory's:

https://www.hornady.com/shop/?ps_ses...a5509977a8de6e

https://www.hornady.com/shop/?page=b...duct_sku=82747

Smaller bullet, but still a good whack!

shooter55 · #5 06-07-2009, 08:23 AM

One of my favorite guns. Very easy to pack around and the either the Hornady lever-revolution ammo or handloads make it a great defender or offender. I keep my in open sights. Can't beat it for the money and nice feeling gun.

Jetski · #6 06-07-2009, 09:40 AM

The model 1895SBL stainless with laminated stock might be a better choice for extensive outdoor use. I also like the closed Pachmayr Decelerator type pad Marlin supplies with that one and the pistol grip stock would help improve control over 400 - 500 gr bullet recoil.

hansol · #7 06-08-2009, 09:36 PM

I've got a custom one I built up. They are pretty handy rigs, with a few pros and cons. I like how light it is, and how nicely the rifle carries.

A couple cons, the straight stock definitely makes you feel the recoil more, and you really need to handload the 45-70 cartridge to make it a worthwhile boomer. Personally, I also hate the thick factory wood stock, prefering the slim wood from the 1895 cowboy or the 336 instead.

It's definitely a niche rifle, handy for packing long distance when you need a thumper, and it really excells for horseback stuff.

noelb · #8 06-10-2009, 11:53 AM

Any thoughts on the .450?

hansol · #9 06-10-2009, 12:49 PM

If you handload, go for the 45-70. If you don't handload, get the .450.

The Moose Whisperer · #10 06-10-2009, 06:35 PM

My thoughts are only slightly different than Hansol's on the 450:

If you handload, get the 45-70, if you don't handload, get the 45-70 and start handloading

ACKLEY ABE · #11 06-11-2009, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by The Moose Whisperer

My thoughts are only slightly different than Hansol's on the 450:

If you handload, get the 45-70, if you don't handload, get the 45-70 and start handloading

lol........My thoughts exactly. Dont bother with a braked Guide Gun. Really not effective and really annoying and hard on ears. Brakes are for cars. If you need a brake on a rifle, you need a smaller rifle. Even with good hearing protection, brakes have been known to damage hearing.

I'm loading hot 400's and with a decelerator recoil pad, I have shot 40 rds off the bench in one session. Don't get me wrong, you do have to hold onto the beast, but not unmanageable at.

Factory loads are good fun for plinking, and then you have the brass for reloading.

hansol · #12 06-12-2009, 03:24 PM

I actually don't mind the porting. It helps more with muzzle jump when firing the heavy loads, than helping to reduce recoil. Plus I've experienced both ported/non-ported guide guns going off, and they are both stupidly loud regardless.

I still have a preference for the unported ones, but the porting does undeniably help with muzzle jump.

#13 06-14-2009, 03:58 PM

A lot of mentions within the thread concerning the 45-70 and .450, both awesome cartriges I'm sure. But what about the .444 Marlin? I shoot one and it's done extremely well for me. Took my latest elk with it and it did so very effectively. I chose the .444 over the other two due to milder recoil. I wanted an effective and hard hitting cartridge in a good saddle gun and I'm very happy with it.

noelb · #14 06-23-2009, 08:25 PM

Slowly filling the "Guide Gun" jar with extra cash

.Shouldn't be too long now......

huntinstuff · #15 06-23-2009, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by gitrdun

A lot of mentions within the thread concerning the 45-70 and .450, both awesome cartriges I'm sure. But what about the .444 Marlin? I shoot one and it's done extremely well for me. Took my latest elk with it and it did so very effectively. I chose the .444 over the other two due to milder recoil. I wanted an effective and hard hitting cartridge in a good saddle gun and I'm very happy with it.

That is a direct quote from the Bible.

God asked Adam "and what calibre shalt thou makest for thee so thou can livest in comfort amonst the beasts?" And Adam replied, " I choose the .444" And it was good.
-Genesis 13: 1-5

PoppaW · #16 06-24-2009, 02:27 AM

I think for what your doing with the gun, close up furry stuff shooting, the 444 will be as good or better. Less recoil means easier to handle and the 444's I have seen seemed to function better(smoother). They would be slightly lighter too I would think with a smaller diameter barrel. Maybe wrong on that. With some stout 300's the 444 would be tough to beat.

ACKLEY ABE · #17 06-24-2009, 07:26 AM

I'd own a 444 too, iffn one came along.

rembo · #18 06-24-2009, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ACKLEY ABE

I'd own a 444 too, iffn one came along.

careful what you wish for.......

course you'd probably desecrate it like the 45-70 I sold ya....

#19 06-24-2009, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by huntinstuff

That is a direct quote from the Bible.
God asked Adam "and what calibre shalt thou makest for thee so thou can livest in comfort amonst the beasts?" And Adam replied, " I choose the .444" And it was good.
-Genesis 13: 1-5

By John Wayne's arse Randy, you never fail to crack me up.

Keep 'em coming, I'm thinking to start up a collection of your "quotes".

Ps: the John Wayne one comes from City Slickers. , the Legend of Curly's Gold if I recall.

#20 06-24-2009, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by PoppaW

I think for what your doing with the gun, close up furry stuff shooting, the 444 will be as good or better. Less recoil means easier to handle and the 444's I have seen seemed to function better(smoother). They would be slightly lighter too I would think with a smaller diameter barrel. Maybe wrong on that. With some stout 300's the 444 would be tough to beat.

I'm under the impression that barrel OD's are the same. The slightlly smaller bore of the .444 might make it a tad heavier.........no? I could be wrong.

Anyhow...I only have two. The 336XLR barrel is notably thinner, but then it's a 30-30.

ACKLEY ABE · #21 06-25-2009, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by rembo

careful what you wish for.......

course you'd probably desecrate it like the 45-70 I sold ya....

It is now a thing of beauty and a joy to behold. The longer mag tube is very nice, thank you. The balance is better and in addition to an extra two in the mag......it just looks right.

Selkirk · #22 06-25-2009, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by hansol

If you handload, go for the 45-70. If you don't handload, get the .450.

X2 ^

Or the .444 Marlin ... whatever turns yer crank.

- .450 Marlin; https://www.hornady.com/shop/?ps_ses...a12894ec7783d8
- .444 Marlin; https://www.hornady.com/shop/?ps_ses...9ed8b329416eae

Keep one eye on the horizon, and yer muzzel out o' the mud,

TF

Tundra Monkey · #23 06-25-2009, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by huntinstuff

Marlin makes a good lever gun. I have had about 12 or so.

Hello, my name is Huntinstuff and I am an addict

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noelb · #24 06-25-2009, 09:18 PM

20 hrs of OT since tuesday.That jars' gettin' fuller

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Roebag · #25 06-25-2009, 10:00 PM

I originally bought mine for a camp gun. It shoots so well I carry it for deer hunting quite often now

This deer was shot from camp

Castincowboy · #26 06-25-2009, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by gitrdun

I'm under the impression that barrel OD's are the same. The slightlly smaller bore of the .444 might make it a tad heavier.........no? I could be wrong.

Anyhow...I only have two. The 336XLR barrel is notably thinner, but then it's a 30-30.

Hey Gitrdun, I really dig these leather butt stock shell holders you got here!
Where did ya come by them? I think my 1895 could use one too...

#27 06-26-2009, 05:23 PM

I get them made up at Eamor's Saddlery in High River. I've got one left, $50.00. The tan/black was made by a Hutterite leather guy, but it's not for sale. First $50.00 takes it.

Brian Bildson · #28 06-29-2009, 12:08 AM

I pack one in the mountains and use as camp bear gun. It's handy on a horse as you can pack it in a dry bag if you don't need it in a scabbard. I added a hammer spur extension as I have a 1.5 - 3 scope on it. Sure lays the moose and elk down. A good gun

sinawalli · #29 06-29-2009, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by gitrdun

I get them made up at Eamor's Saddlery in High River. I've got one left, $50.00. The tan/black was made by a Hutterite leather guy, but it's not for sale. First $50.00 takes it.

I own a couple of those!!

You won't be disappointed... if you can talk him into getting one for you!! Really inhances the "rustic" look of a lever gun!!

rembo · #30 06-29-2009, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Roebag

I originally bought mine for a camp gun. It shoots so well I carry it for deer hunting quite often now

This deer was shot from camp

Nice pics.....your sidekick looks like he's really in to it...you're going to have a hunting buddy for life with that fella....

Are you using the factory sights?