Coyotes Not coming into bait.

[Fer-Tak-Er]

Hey.
Anyone out there know how I can get these damn coyotes out to my bait.
I got a dead cow from the Auction Mart, on Nov/23/12. No one there could tell me if it had been given any shots. But I'm going to guess it has. Nothing had been to it in 2 weeks, So I moved that cow away from my bait set. I got 6 pigs from the local colony, and the pig boss said that none of them had been given any shots, but still nothing. So I made up 2 big popsicles of blood, and trim from the butcher shop. Still just birds........... Last year at this time I had already taken 5 from my bait set. Any ideas on what I can do to get them damn coyotes over to my bait set.

[wwbirds]

Just put a second meatsickle out yesterday. Hear a few, but very few, after dark and even on my road trips around 5 miles of the area I am seeing very few even in the distance. have to figure a few contributing factors.

We have hit them very hard for the past 4-5 years and the local numbers are down and those remaining are very educated (nocturnal).

Up until the past couple days the temperatures and snow cover did not really make it too difficult for them to find food. (feeding on deer gut piles wounded waterfowl etc)

the pressure from local hunters has increased 5 fold from past years with everyone and their brother now owning a coyote rig and looking for "dogs"

have not even seen one in the distance for over a week and he was bleeding badly for 1/2 mile before he went on property I do not have permission on.

[bsmitty27]

Same for me.
I put my deer gut pile and scraps in a bait pile. Nothing but birds. What's up?

[DustDee]

Ain't cold enough yet.

[Fer-Tak-Er]

I would have to disagree on the cold factor, As I said before last year this time I had shot 5 off my bait site. Way less snow and way less cold this time last year. I'm just wondering if that tainted bait is maybe still lingering. It's been a week since I moved it.

[bsmitty27]

Feels cold to me!
Not even at night. No tracks in the snow, And the snow is building. In October I couldn't keep them out of my compost pile. Now I can't get them to come in.
Brad

[Fer-Tak-Er]

My bait site is on the edge of a 2 mile by 1 mile lake(more like a slough, but the map calls it a lake). Last year on the full moon in December at @ 1:00am I snuck out there. I counted 21 coyotes on the lake.(I know it sounds a little far fetched, but I am not bull sh**ing) I know alot of guys are out there shooting coyotes, and maybe there is getting to be less out there than in previous years, but somethings up. Not even a dog track in 3 weeks.

[Deer Hunter]

the hutterites have snares set up all over the place this year... I hear srd is putting coyotes on draw next year!!

[Fer-Tak-Er]

To think that last year there was a bounty on coyotes up north, and now there thinking of draw.

[pikergolf]

Wait for the cold, it's been a good summer for all wildlife including coyote food. When the temp drops and the extra calories are needed they'll be around.

[pikergolf]

Originally Posted by Fer-Tak-Er

My bait site is on the edge of a 2 mile by 1 mile lake(more like a slough, but the map calls it a lake). Last year on the full moon in December at @ 1:00am I snuck out there. I counted 21 coyotes on the lake.(I know it sounds a little far fetched, but I am not bull sh**ing) I know alot of guys are out there shooting coyotes, and maybe there is getting to be less out there than in previous years, but somethings up. Not even a dog track in 3 weeks.

Words out, the british block is full of gut piles.

[Fer-Tak-Er]

British block hey!!!

[pikergolf]

I imagine those dogs will do well all winter.

[wwbirds]

We just did 3 + hours spotting for a goose shoot and knocking on some doors and only saw one running coyote in all that time in some prime country. Just seems to be far fewer of them this year.
Good news is we found 4 fields with 600 plus geese, bad news owners of land don't support hunting of any kind.

[Bearen09]

Originally Posted by wwbirds

We just did 3 + hours spotting for a goose shoot and knocking on some doors and only saw one running coyote in all that time in some prime country. Just seems to be far fewer of them this year.
Good news is we found 4 fields with 600 plus geese, bad news owners of land don't support hunting of any kind.

I live around Edmonton and hit around 50 a year..Now that Cabela is here everyone is a pro....Electronical calls in the wrong hand are the worst thing ever..end of story.

[ganderblaster]

If any one wants to shoot coyotes near Camrose pm me they are everywhere.

[dmac]

First stand of the year this morning, called in two, missed an easy shot on the male, they scattered, hit the KIYI and called the female back. Made the 110 yard shot.

[Lefty-Canuck]

Originally Posted by Bearen09

I live around Edmonton and hit around 50 a year..Now that Cabela is here everyone is a pro....Electronical calls in the wrong hand are the worst thing ever..end of story.

I tend to agree with you....predator hunting used to be only a fraction as popular as it is today. I have never had the need for an electronic call, always use hand calls. Seems the dogs are quite educated to the typical 5-10 sounds that everyone likely uses.

LC

[threeforthree]

Originally Posted by wwbirds

We just did 3 + hours spotting for a goose shoot and knocking on some doors and only saw one running coyote in all that time in some prime country. Just seems to be far fewer of them this year.
Good news is we found 4 fields with 600 plus geese, bad news owners of land don't support hunting of any kind.

Did about 6hr drive time today., for goose shoot in morning, No dogs about 3 inches fresh snow, will be hunting Lentils in morning, with close to 1000 in field, couple issues they come in very high, and do not start to hit the fields till about 11:am, will be in total whites with a big old decoy resting on my belly. have another area with permission about 300 birds, come in lower and we can rest up in a fence line with high grass, there is 5 of us hunting and I got out voted 4-1 , Man, that fence line looked to me . birds were landing 20 yards from fence. and clearing the fence by about 10 yards. Lets see what the goose gods bring us in the morning. We saw a few birds leave an area and we drove over to it had about 15 skinned coyotes in a pile. 4 miles from a colony????

[baptiste_moose]

Coyote on draw? Your pulling our leg right?

[H380]

Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

I tend to agree with you....predator hunting used to be only a fraction as popular as it is today. I have never had the need for an electronic call, always use hand calls. Seems the dogs are quite educated to the typical 5-10 sounds that everyone likely uses.

LC

Got it right there Lefty, TV shows and electronic calls now every one is a pro ... Dam you Les Johnson and Randy Anderson !!! LOL .. Oh well , as the coyotes get educated the number of immediate pro dog hunters get discouraged and the die hards just have to get better .

[Deer Hunter]

Originally Posted by baptiste_moose

Coyote on draw? Your pulling our leg right?

Yes, sorry I couldn't resist

[xxclaro]

Interesting,I thought it was just me that wasn't seeing the usual numbers this year. Not sure what the reason is,be it more hunters or something else,but I'm okay with it. i like hunting coyote's but prefer hunting deer,and would like to see more rabbits and grouse around,so will happily see coyote numbers drop. Talked to trapper friend today,and he said he's not getting any coyote's either.

[4thredneck]

Originally Posted by Fer-Tak-Er

I would have to disagree on the cold factor, As I said before last year this time I had shot 5 off my bait site. Way less snow and way less cold this time last year. I'm just wondering if that tainted bait is maybe still lingering. It's been a week since I moved it.

What exactly is the bait tainted with?

[Redfrog]

I may have to stop calling to give you 'bait' guys a chance. I seem to be calling them off your baits. Sorry!, Sorry! sorry!


Have you tried trolling those baits?

[ali#1]

Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

I tend to agree with you....predator hunting used to be only a fraction as popular as it is today. I have never had the need for an electronic call, always use hand calls. Seems the dogs are quite educated to the typical 5-10 sounds that everyone likely uses.

LC

Glad to know you we're an expert when you started.

[wwbirds]

if you don't stop calling and learn to bait how will you ever get your master baiter title??

[coyote_man]

I too am finding that certain areas have lower than usual numbers according to tracks seen. On the other hand river bottoms, feedlots and just areas with cattle are still showing healthy populations. I have read that in order to reduce and control coyote populations one needs to harvest 80-85% of the population over a period of 3-5 years. Two years ago the deep snow forced them into huge packs around deer ,antelope and cattle which made for exceptional hunting. Im thinking this year they are still spread out for the most part.

[Redfrog]

Originally Posted by wwbirds

if you don't stop calling and learn to bait how will you ever get your master baiter title??

There is enough Master baiters on AO now. not many coyote calling frogs though.

[pikergolf]

Originally Posted by Redfrog

I may have to stop calling to give you 'bait' guys a chance. I seem to be calling them off your baits. Sorry!, Sorry! sorry!


Have you tried trolling those baits?

lol