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10-07-2017, 11:27 PM
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Onus on Accessing GRL
So how would this follow under onus... ive contacted the GRL and seems like ive been playing cat and mouse and getting the run around before the dry spell we had... he said he got cattle there or its to dry or its full... conditions say foot access only if cattle present.... do i just access... i have all emails i sent from day one and left my cell contact info... im just hunting...& not damaging nothing and im not taking garbage in. Just me and my rifle.. should i have phone on video mode if met with the GRL on the land.
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10-08-2017, 12:07 AM
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AlbertaWild - sorry man, might want to take a few extra minutes to stitch those sentences together. I'd love to help but I've got no idea what you're asking.
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10-08-2017, 08:12 AM
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Onus
Onus-> ones duty or responsibility to prove he follows all specifications that is mentioned.
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10-08-2017, 08:16 AM
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You don't mention the wmu ? Is there a possibility there is still a fire ban in effect in that county??? if so a no go!
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10-08-2017, 08:37 AM
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Follow the conditions and you should be good to go. He could still deny you access due to it being "full" but 85% of the time he's probably full of **** on that account.
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10-08-2017, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by saddleup
You don't mention the wmu ? Is there a possibility there is still a fire ban in effect in that county??? if so a no go!
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Im not making a fire or dont smoke... your prolly mean forest closure. Its lifted.
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10-08-2017, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Birchcraft
Follow the conditions and you should be good to go. He could still deny you access due to it being "full" but 85% of the time he's probably full of **** on that account.
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Yah im starting to think he is full of **** now. I think i will do this; ive done everything and follewed through... thanks
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10-08-2017, 11:58 AM
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Special areas 3&4 are still under fire bans. Lease access can be denied when fire bans are in effect.
It would be helpful to know where you intend to hunt.
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10-08-2017, 02:52 PM
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Show some respect. If the lease owner told you no then you are trespassing. They can rightfully deny you access if cattle are in the fields.
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10-08-2017, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Pasc43
Show some respect. If the lease owner told you no then you are trespassing. They can rightfully deny you access if cattle are in the fields.
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There in lies the key word.........RESPECT.........
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10-08-2017, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by saddleup
There in lies the key word.........RESPECT.........
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And in my opinion respect is lost by those lease holders that screw around with ethical hunters and deny access.
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10-08-2017, 06:06 PM
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Goes both ways. Two sides to every story 
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10-08-2017, 11:08 PM
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Goes both ways. Two sides to every story |
there u go..sticking up for those dang lease holders again! 
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10-09-2017, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by spoiledsaskhunter
there u go..sticking up for those dang lease holders again! |
R U still mad at the lease holders down south cause none of them will allow U access for goat hunting this fall?????? 
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10-09-2017, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by saddleup
R U still mad at the lease holders down south cause none of them will allow U access for goat hunting this fall?????? |
those dang lease holders.....where am i gonna find a goat?
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10-09-2017, 12:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pasc43
Show some respect. If the lease owner told you no then you are trespassing. They can rightfully deny you access if cattle are in the fields.
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So should it be considered trespassing if the lease holder still has livestock on the lease after the grazing season. That's becoming a fairly common exscuse of leaseholders is that they still have one or two cows out they are having trouble catching. These guys have too remember that they do not own the land just the right too graze it. Some seem too forgetfull when it comes allowing others access.
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10-09-2017, 04:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pasc43
Show some respect. If the lease owner told you no then you are trespassing. They can rightfully deny you access if cattle are in the fields.
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Your stupid boy and you cant fix stupid... i was there dismorning and no F'n cattle to be seen! Seen him on a side by side repairing fence...so i told him about sections 9(3) and 9(4) of the Recreational Access Regulation & Recreational users and included the ONUS!!
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10-09-2017, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by saddleup
There in lies the key word.........RESPECT.........
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Reapect... is not giving a hunter the run around or trying to find a excuss to keep them off... then the hunter getting the point across to the GRL holder & the govt should allow some point of acces to GRL that has to go over private land to access.. another run around.
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10-09-2017, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by hoyt hntr
So should it be considered trespassing if the lease holder still has livestock on the lease after the grazing season. That's becoming a fairly common exscuse of leaseholders is that they still have one or two cows out they are having trouble catching. These guys have too remember that they do not own the land just the right too graze it. Some seem too forgetfull when it comes allowing others access.
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When does the grazing season end???
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10-09-2017, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by hal53
When does the grazing season end???
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Some leases are oct 31. This is why some grazing reserves have too open up gates and access on nov 1
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10-09-2017, 06:13 PM
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Gone Hunting
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Some leases are oct 31. This is why some grazing reserves have too open up gates and access on nov 1
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"some"..is the key word there...and there could be other minister approved restrictions in place other than cattle at large as well
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10-09-2017, 06:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hal53
"some"..is the key word there...and there could be other minister approved restrictions in place other than cattle at large as well
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Yes you are correct....
There are rules and requirements too be followed on both sides of the fence. Not all lease holders are difficult but not all outdoorsmen are either.
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10-09-2017, 09:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AlbertaWild
So how would this follow under onus... ive contacted the GRL and seems like ive been playing cat and mouse and getting the run around before the dry spell we had... he said he got cattle there or its to dry or its full... conditions say foot access only if cattle present.... do i just access... i have all emails i sent from day one and left my cell contact info... im just hunting...& not damaging nothing and im not taking garbage in. Just me and my rifle.. should i have phone on video mode if met with the GRL on the land.
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Call the local settlement officer. He / she will sort it out....if you are hell bent on hunting that land.... there may be some bad blood after the settlement officer gets involved.
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10-09-2017, 09:34 PM
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if the conditions on the GRL you view specify a number for hunters (i.e. only 4 per day) they have the right to say full if have that many. If no limit stated they cannot say full because they don't have a minister approved condition specifying the max number.
If a fire ban in effect they can legally deny access same if any livestock on land.
The loop hole that annoys me is they can hunt if livestock/fireban themselves and can allow (but are not legally required to) hunters on land. So if there is a cow on the land they can restrict access to themselves and/or their friends...
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